The Down Range Forum
Member Section => Handguns => Topic started by: philw on January 30, 2010, 05:40:49 PM
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has anyone got one of there Black Powder Revolvers??
what do you thing of them ??
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I don't own one, but have dealt with Dixie for years, good stuff.
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I don't own one, but have dealt with Dixie for years, good stuff.
Big +1 to that. They do make good stuff.. But it's a dirty form of shooting, but really a lot of fun. Would love to have one of those cap & ball Navy Revolvers.
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The Colt Navy (36 cal ) was considered the nicest handling pistol of it's day.
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The Colt Navy (36 cal ) was considered the nicest handling pistol of it's day.
The 1851 (41) is my favorite in 36 caliber. But than you guys get me all riled up for a 1860 (44) Colt Army version.
http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_info.php?products_id=946
Still would rather get the Navy Colt. ;)
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I stopped by there sometime in the mid 90s and bought a 1862 Pocket Police in .36 cal. Gun was made in Italy (sorry, can't check the safe right now). Shoots fine, but did break the mainspring and have to order a new one (my fault, doing some home polishing). However, wish I'd bought another 51' Navy as I'd like to have a brace of them. ;D The 62' was a good concealment gun back in its time and the 51' an excellent belt gun.
CD
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It's a lot more fun (and easier loading) with Pyrodex pellets.
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I've heard nothing but good things about Dixie. My only black powder firearm is a LeMat from Navy Arms. I'll be shooting it again as my gun club has a 'black powder only' range, prevailing wind usually keeps it downwind of the rest of the ranges.
Guess the fart smell bugs some people...
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Might be that "Black powder fog bank" ;D
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well here is the reason I was asking
a Dixie Gun Works Euroarms made Rogers & Spencer ;D ;D ;D
did the transfer today
(http://gallery.mac.com/philw/100118/DSCF0250/web.jpg)
got just about everything to get me started as well
(http://gallery.mac.com/philw/100118/DSCF0259/web.jpg)
also bit of powder, caps, lube, BP cleaner
now to find some lead ;)
for those that don't know the size of these little ones
here it is my with Taurus
(http://gallery.mac.com/philw/100118/DSCF0256/web.jpg)
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My Dad has a model 1861 Navy Colt in .36 he's been stocking up for, as well as a T/C Hawken in .50 ;D
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Congratulations..............a beautiful firearm.
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Sounds like a very cool toy. I'd own one except for the PITA cleaning factor, but still woth it. My friends who do BP seem addicted. Does it get you out of Aussie gun laws? Here in the states they aren't classified the same way as modern firearms. Is that the case down there?
FQ13
PS as far as lead, look to fishing catalogs. There are a quite a few that sell lead for folks that want to make their own jig heads and sinkers. Likewise, hit your local scrap yard. Just wear a respirator if you start hack sawing pieces down to size.
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Nice, Phil! I found sheet lead for my pistol from a local plummer. Seems they still use it for drain pans. He just gave me scraps for free.
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Nice piece...those things really give you your money's worth with activites when you go shoot. Keep ya busy all day shooting a hundred rounds! :D
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Sweat lookin pistola! Let us know how she handles.
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These were real popular with the Calvary during the Civil War. ;D
http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_92_187_189&products_id=3496
Then there is this for the DA fan
http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_92_187_189&products_id=3539
Or the "traditionalist"
http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_92_187_189&products_id=3489
There is something for EVERY taste ;D
http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_92_187_189&products_id=12456
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Nice gun Phil. I've never seen that model before.
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The Rodgers and Spencer revolver is an excellent gun. It was one of the best revolvers never used in the Civil War. I own two and was going to use them for Cowboy Action Shooting in the Plainsmen Category. They are quick to take apart for cleaning and don't foul out as fast as a Remington. They can also be accuarized very easily. The late Tom Ball made excellent Rodgers and Spencers. Their used to also be .45 Colt conversion cylinders avaliable for them as well. Enjoy it and good shooting.
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The Starr unless they have improved recently aren't very reliable. I would also stay away from the brass framed '51 Navy and '60 Army.
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The Starr unless they have improved recently aren't very reliable. I would also stay away from the brass framed '51 Navy and '60 Army.
Why ? Are there issues besides the "open Top" ?
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Sounds like a very cool toy. I'd own one except for the PITA cleaning factor, but still woth it. My friends who do BP seem addicted. Does it get you out of Aussie gun laws? Here in the states they aren't classified the same way as modern firearms. Is that the case down there?
FQ13
nope treated the same..
unless it is not going to be used and it is pre 1900 and no ammo available
however if you want to use it then needs to be registered just like all the others
PS as far as lead, look to fishing catalogs. There are a quite a few that sell lead for folks that want to make their own jig heads and sinkers. Likewise, hit your local scrap yard. Just wear a respirator if you start hack sawing pieces down to size.
working on that :)
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Why ? Are there issues besides the "open Top" ?
With heavy loads of black powder the open top frame can stretch, open up the gap between cylinder and barrel, and cause major problems.
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(http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/9457/file00386pp.th.jpg) (http://img67.imageshack.us/my.php?image=file00386pp.jpg)
Cap & Ball .44. I shot it once back in the 70's when I bought it. The cleanup afterward changed my mind about further marksmanship with it. That, and shooting it after forgetting to grease over the balls in the front of the cylinder. It chain fired on me and sent one down the bore, and two out the sides.
Never, Never, Ever fire one of those black powder revolving carbines with your hand on the forearm. If the same thing happens, (and it is quite common), you'll lose several fingers, or your whole hand in the process. Bill T.
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Cap & Ball .44. I shot it once back in the 70's when I bought it. The cleanup afterward changed my mind about further marksmanship with it. That, and shooting it after forgetting to grease over the balls in the front of the cylinder. It chain fired on me and sent one down the bore, and two out the sides.
Never, Never, Ever fire one of those black powder revolving carbines with your hand on the forearm. If the same thing happens, (and it is quite common), you'll lose several fingers, or your whole hand in the process. Bill T.
Thanks Bill. You've just explained why the Remington cylinder carbine never caught on. Something I've always wondered about.
FQ13
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Colt's first product line was a full range of "Revolving" Pistol's, RIFLES, and the BAADEST 4 Shot Shotgun of the "Old West". ;D
The Paterson factory supplied all 3 to the Republic of Texas Navy, The first national military branch to be fully equipped with repeating Arms.
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(http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/9457/file00386pp.th.jpg) (http://img67.imageshack.us/my.php?image=file00386pp.jpg)
Cap & Ball .44. I shot it once back in the 70's when I bought it. The cleanup afterward changed my mind about further marksmanship with it. That, and shooting it after forgetting to grease over the balls in the front of the cylinder. It chain fired on me and sent one down the bore, and two out the sides.
Never, Never, Ever fire one of those black powder revolving carbines with your hand on the forearm. If the same thing happens, (and it is quite common), you'll lose several fingers, or your whole hand in the process. Bill T.
that is was a nice looking pistol
I know about the cleaning thing however it was at a good price and you know bloke can never have too many toys
was it able to be fixed after the chain firing
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that is was a nice looking pistol, was it able to be fixed after the chain firing
No damage occurred, except to my nerves. When it happened there was a lot of smoke, and the gun recoiled differently. Not greater, just "different". Like a long, sustained push. I thought nothing of it, and cocked the hammer for another shot. When the gun went "click" instead of "bang", I then discovered why. I have heard if the lower chamber goes in a chain fire, it can damage the frame because the ball has nowhere to go. Luckily in my case, that didn't happen. Bill T.
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No damage occurred, except to my nerves. When it happened there was a lot of smoke, and the gun recoiled differently. Not greater, just "different". Like a long, sustained push. I thought nothing of it, and cocked the hammer for another shot. When the gun went "click" instead of "bang", I then discovered why. I have heard if the lower chamber goes in a chain fire, it can damage the frame because the ball has nowhere to go. Luckily in my case, that didn't happen. Bill T.
ahh cool
still got it ???
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I always admired the look of black powder revolvers. Wish I still had my (toy) double Colt rig with the Rebel Flag buckle and Sam Browne shoulder strap from my 7th birthday. Come to think of it, people still CARRIED black powder pistols when I was 7.
Anyway, enjoy the fun.
Mac.
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still got it ???
Yes. I've never sold a gun. That will be Melanie's job when I take a dirt nap. ;D Bill T.