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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: Johnny Bravo on January 31, 2010, 04:46:44 PM
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WASHINGTON (AP) — The Obama administration said Sunday it would consider local opposition when deciding where to hold Sept. 11 terror trials and pledged to seek swift justice for the professed mastermind of the attacks.
"Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is going to meet justice and he's going to meet his maker," said President Barack Obama's press secretary, Robert Gibbs. "He will be brought to justice and he's likely to be executed for the heinous crimes that he committed in killing and masterminding the killing of 3,000 Americans. That you can be sure of."
Objections from New York City officials and residents have intensified since the Justice Department announced late last year it planned to put Mohammed and other accused Sept. 11 conspirators on trial in federal court in lower Manhattan. In its new budget, the Obama administration is proposing a $200 million fund to help pay for security costs in cities hosting terrorist trials.
White House aide David Axelrod said New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg and other city officials have changed their minds after initially supporting the decision for trials in the city, citing logistics and costs.
"The president believes that we need to take into consideration what the local authorities are saying," Axelrod said. "But he also believes ... that we ought to bring Khalid Sheikh Mohammad and all others who are involved in terrorist acts to justice swift and sure."
Safety and cost have been issues in the debate, but some officials also have questioned the administration's legal strategy for using civilian courts for the suspects instead of military tribunals.
Sen. Lamar Alexander, a Tennessee Republican, said the administration should shift the trials to military courts, which he said have been reviewed by Congress to ensure fairness. He and other Republicans have criticized officials for charging Nigerian Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab in civilian court in the Christmas airliner plot instead of turning him over to military authorities.
"We have to make a distinction between a kid who breaks into a sandwich shop in Detroit and a Nigerian terrorist who wants to blow up an airplane flying into Detroit," Alexander said.
Sen. Evan Bayh, an Indiana Democrat, indicated he didn't support the request for $200 million for civilian trials, saying he favored trying terrorism suspects safely, quickly and inexpensively.
"If there's somewhere we can try them without spending that money, why spend the money? We've got a lot of other fiscal problems," Bayh said.
Gibbs spoke on CNN's State of the Union while Axelrod appeared on NBC's Meet the Press. Alexander and Bayh spoke on Fox News Sunday.
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WASHINGTON (AP) —
"Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is going to meet justice and he's going to meet his maker," said President Barack Obama's press secretary, Robert Gibbs. "He will be brought to justice and he's likely to be executed for the heinous crimes that he committed in killing and masterminding the killing of 3,000 Americans. That you can be sure of."
Copyright 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
Did BHO just prejudice every jury in the US and probably give this guy good grounds for a dismissal?
Oh....on second read, I see it was not BHO, just his press secretary....still not to smart.
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We could have it at the range I was at today. Borders the Everglades, bunch of nothing for miles, and has a nice tall berm in the back. ;)
What a dumbass to choose NYC, even Bloomberg,..... what a joke.... I hope they choke on all the downright STUPID decisions they make. AG Holder,....please.....
I wish somebody would just step on him.
Robert D. Raiford.
Curmudgeon At Large.
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If he was tried in NYC he might very well wind up in front of Jack Wienstien, the most overturned Judge in American history.
Even HE has overturned his decisions (Mafia Cops case )
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Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was captured in Rawalpindi, Pakistan, on March 1, 2003, by the Pakistani ISI, possibly in a joint action with agents of the American Diplomatic Security Service, and has been in U.S. custody since that time.
In March 2007, after four years in captivity, including six months of detention and alleged torture at Guantanamo Bay, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed — as it was claimed by a Combatant Status Review Tribunal Hearing in Guantanamo Bay — confessed to masterminding the September 11 attacks, the Richard Reid shoe bombing attempt to blow up an airliner over the Atlantic Ocean, the Bali nightclub bombing in Indonesia, the 1993 World Trade Center bombing and various foiled attacks.
He was charged on February 11, 2008, with war crimes and murder by a U.S. military commission and faces the death penalty if convicted.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalid_Sheikh_Mohammed
FTA:
The Obama administration said Sunday it would consider local opposition when deciding where to hold Sept. 11 terror trials and pledged to seek swift justice for the professed mastermind of the attacks.
Yeah, after almost 7 years?
PegLeg45, Who thinks swift justice means the decomposed tissue should have already removed itself from the bones.
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FTA:
Yeah, after almost 7 years?
PegLeg45, Who thinks swift justice means the decomposed tissue should have already removed itself from the bones.
+1 Peg!
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"Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is going to meet justice and he's going to meet his maker," said President Barack Obama's press secretary, Robert Gibbs. "He will be brought to justice and he's likely to be executed for the heinous crimes that he committed in killing and masterminding the killing of 3,000 Americans. That you can be sure of."
yep that will be a fare tral right there
should of just double tapped the goat loving Rag head and saved a heap of $$$
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$200 million?
They can have it at my house. ;D
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Pfft!
Let God judge him. Drop him in the middle of the Pacific and if he swims to safety he's free... to go on trial in a secular court, because that would be a sign even God wants earthly justice before heavenly mercy in this case.
I'd have made a great Spanish Inquisitor. ;D
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Pfft!
Let God judge him. Drop him in the middle of the Pacific and if he swims to safety he's free... to go on trial in a secular court, because that would be a sign even God wants earthly justice before heavenly mercy in this case.
I'd have made a great Spanish Inquisitor. ;D
You forgot to remember that he stole a log chain and a 55 gallon drum of concrete when he tries to make his swim.
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Navy has their catch & release method,....he can even say hello to the virgins,....
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/twyacht/untitled.jpg)
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This frosts me. I AM in favor of a criminal trial if we have what we need intel wise and are reasonably sure of conviction. For example look at McVeigh and the Blind Sheik. This shows the world that we can do the job inside the Constitution and in open court. We mean it when we talk about the rule of law. However to pick a venue on political concerns? I call BS. If he can't get a fair trial in NYC, change venue, but the feelings of the locals shouldn't mean squat. It should be about a letter perfect verdict and security concerns. Period, full stop. Frankly, you try this guy on Saturn and he's still screwed, but lets not politicize this. A fair trial at dawn and a hanginging at sunset.
FQ13