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Title: I use to not mind Winter, but now...
Post by: blackwolfe on February 09, 2010, 03:40:37 AM
I don't have time for it.  I have over an hour commute for work, but I'm lucky I have the next two days off with this forecast:
Thank goodness my Midway catalog finnally came today.


Issued by The National Weather Service
North Webster, IN
4:26 am EST, Tue., Feb. 9, 2010

... WINTER STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 7 PM EST /6 PM CST/ WEDNESDAY...

A WINTER STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 7 PM EST /6 PM CST/ WEDNESDAY.

* TIMING... SNOW WILL CONTINUE THROUGH TONIGHT... BUT THEN DIMINISH TO SNOW SHOWERS WEDNESDAY. NORTHWEST WINDS WILL INCREASE TO 20 TO 30 MPH WITH GUSTS TO 40 MPH LATE TUESDAY NIGHT AND WEDNESDAY. TOTAL SNOWFALL BY LATE WEDNESDAY SHOULD RANGE FROM 10 TO 15 INCHES... WITH THE GREATEST AMOUNTS DOWNSTREAM OF LAKE MICHIGAN WHERE HEAVY LAKE EFFECT SNOW LATE TONIGHT AND EARLY WEDNESDAY WILL BOOST SNOW AMOUNTS.

* MAIN IMPACT... HEAVY SNOW WILL CAUSE HAZARDOUS TRAVEL CONDITIONS THROUGH WEDNESDAY. INCREASING NORTHWEST WINDS WILL CAUSE CONSIDERABLE BLOWING AND DRIFTING SNOW LATE TONIGHT AND WEDNESDAY... RESULTING IN NEAR BLIZZARD CONDITIONS AT TIMES AND SOME IMPASSABLE ROADS IN RURAL AREAS.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A WINTER STORM WARNING FOR HEAVY SNOW AND BLOWING SNOW MEANS SEVERE WINTER WEATHER CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED OR OCCURRING. SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF SNOW ARE FORECAST THAT WILL MAKE TRAVEL DANGEROUS. ONLY TRAVEL IN AN EMERGENCY. IF YOU MUST TRAVEL... KEEP AN EXTRA FLASHLIGHT... FOOD... AND WATER IN YOUR VEHICLE IN CASE OF AN EMERGENCY.

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More Information
... WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT THROUGH WEDNESDAY EVENING...

.A SURFACE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM OVER MISSISSIPPI AND AN UPPER LOW ACROSS IOWA WILL MERGE TODAY OVER THE OHIO VALLEY REGION. SNOW ASSOCIATED WITH THIS SYSTEM WILL OVERSPREAD THE AREA EARLY TODAY AND THEN CONTINUE INTO WEDNESDAY. LAKE ENHANCED SNOW SHOWERS WILL BOOST SNOW AMOUNTS DOWNSTREAM OF LAKE MICHIGAN LATE TONIGHT AND WEDNESDAY. STORM TOTAL SNOWFALL BY LATE WEDNESDAY IS EXPECTED TO BE GENERALLY 8 TO 12 INCHES... WITH 10 TO 15 INCHES LIKELY OVER FAR SOUTHWEST LOWER MICHIGAN INTO NORTHWEST INDIANA. NORTHWEST WINDS WILL INCREASE TO 15 TO 25 MPH WITH 30 TO 40 MPH GUSTS LATE TUESDAY NIGHT AND WEDNESDAY RESULTING IN BLOWING AND DRIFTING SNOW WITH NEAR BLIZZARD CONDITIONS POSSIBLE.

Title: Re: I use to not mind Winter, but now...
Post by: philw on February 09, 2010, 04:41:02 AM
man  that sux 


they say it will be around 37 to 38  and humid tomorrow 

sigh..  ;)
Title: Re: I use to not mind Winter, but now...
Post by: tombogan03884 on February 09, 2010, 11:40:10 AM
What Phil is leaving out to make us feel better is that  it's 37- 38   C not F 
Title: Re: I use to not mind Winter, but now...
Post by: Pathfinder on February 09, 2010, 01:17:43 PM
Pfffftt - that ain't nothing but snow flurries in ND. Up the winds to 55+ and drop the temps to minus whatever, throw in the snow and now you have a ND blizzard aka winter storm.

A year ago, as I dug out from some of the latest "global warming", for the first time in my life, I found myself muttering the words - I need to move someplace warmer! Like NM!!!!
Title: Re: I use to not mind Winter, but now...
Post by: Solus on February 09, 2010, 01:38:28 PM


A year ago, as I dug out from some of the latest "global warming", for the first time in my life, I found myself muttering the words - I need to move someplace warmer! Like NM!!!!

DC has been hit with two record snow falls this past week.   Now is the time to say to Congress....All if favor of limiting Global Warming say Aye.

Thank goodness for Global Warming.  Think how bad it would be without it. -=)
Title: Re: I use to not mind Winter, but now...
Post by: tt11758 on February 09, 2010, 01:40:16 PM
DC has been hit with two record snow falls this past week.   Now is the time to say to Congress....All if favor of limiting Global Warming say Aye.

Thank goodness for Global Warming.  Think how bad it would be without it. -=)



Anything that can "shut down the government" is a gift from God!!
Title: Re: I use to not mind Winter, but now...
Post by: JSC3ATLCSO on February 09, 2010, 05:21:17 PM
I don't know anything about this global warming thing, but on one of the local newspapers' website some tree hugger that acted like they knew something about it said that the cold weather we are getting is due to the gobal warming melting the ice caps and forcing the colder arctic and antarctic waters to the warmer central waters.  It seems a bit unlikely that it is real due to the weather.  I also think that the Earths Climate has Cycles that it goes through. 

I do think we need to try and get away from fossil fuels and conserve energy but my reasons for doing so isn't due to "Global Warming" I just think it is wasteful to leave lights on when not needed and it is stupid for people that live in cities and work in cities and insist on driving a 12 mpg full size pickup to work like it is a 30mpg Cadi.  Then to turn around and have some "Tree Hugger" tell me that I don't need my pickup to farm with or try and say that our farm machinery is what is causing all of the global warming.  B-S I say.   BAHHH.. I could go on and on.  Probably wrong but I don't think that my point of view is much different than most around here and I don't need to continue to beat the dead horse.

Anyway Screw the tree huggers.  People just need to be environmentally responsible just like being a responsible gun owner or law abiding citizen and I don't think that this should be a congressional issue.  Why is it not just apart of everyday common sense.
Title: Re: I use to not mind Winter, but now...
Post by: Texas_Bryan on February 09, 2010, 05:32:35 PM
I don't know anything about this global warming thing, but on one of the local newspapers' website some tree hugger that acted like they knew something about it said that the cold weather we are getting is due to the gobal warming melting the ice caps and forcing the colder arctic and antarctic waters to the warmer central waters.  It seems a bit unlikely that it is real due to the weather.  I also think that the Earths Climate has Cycles that it goes through. 

I do think we need to try and get away from fossil fuels and conserve energy but my reasons for doing so isn't due to "Global Warming" I just think it is wasteful to leave lights on when not needed and it is stupid for people that live in cities and work in cities and insist on driving a 12 mpg full size pickup to work like it is a 30mpg Cadi.  Then to turn around and have some "Tree Hugger" tell me that I don't need my pickup to farm with or try and say that our farm machinery is what is causing all of the global warming.  B-S I say.   BAHHH.. I could go on and on.  Probably wrong but I don't think that my point of view is much different than most around here and I don't need to continue to beat the dead horse.

Anyway Screw the tree huggers.  People just need to be environmentally responsible just like being a responsible gun owner or law abiding citizen and I don't think that this should be a congressional issue.  Why is it not just apart of everyday common sense.

Pseudo-science is so convenient.
Title: Re: I use to not mind Winter, but now...
Post by: Rastus on February 09, 2010, 08:31:08 PM
I don't know anything about this global warming thing, but on one of the local newspapers' website some tree hugger that acted like they knew something about it said that the cold weather we are getting is due to the gobal warming melting the ice caps and forcing the colder arctic and antarctic waters to the warmer central waters.  ..............

Anyway Screw the tree huggers.  People just need to be environmentally responsible just like being a responsible gun owner or law abiding citizen and I don't think that this should be a congressional issue.  Why is it not just apart of everyday common sense.

Oh yeah, they just reported that the ice cap shrinking....NOT...they made that one up to.  The hugger is leaning on old lies.  So much of that is made up...and cycles, yup...solar cycles.  Solar luminosity correlates really well with global temperatures.   We may be entering a solar minima much like the mini-ice age a few centuries ago....we have not had very much solar activity for a year now.  Check some of the reputable scientists who forecasted cooling this winter based on solar observations.  Within the last month there has been some pickup in sunspots/solar activity so we may have just had an 11 year cycle that bottomed out longer than usual...but who knows????  Might be getting cooler, might be getting hotter and if Al Gore could find a way to tax sunlight I'm sure he would have gone that route first.

Everyday common sense is the way to go.
Title: Re: I use to not mind Winter, but now...
Post by: Big Frank on February 09, 2010, 08:49:35 PM
Global warming or not it's been a mild winter here. There's no lake effect snow where I'm at. When I shovel snow tomorrow it will only be about the 4th or 5th time this winter. A few times we had an inch of snow that I didn't shovel but still it hasn't snowed much. Most years I plow up a snowpile the size of my shed. This year it's tiny.
Title: Re: I use to not mind Winter, but now...
Post by: twyacht on February 09, 2010, 09:12:33 PM
I'm sorry for your winter. My wife's family is in the Baltimore area and had 30" last weekend and another 15-20" coming tonight and tomorrow.

They're just not used to that much.

Me, I just need a long sleeve t-shirt,   still in shorts,...


Title: Re: I use to not mind Winter, but now...
Post by: JSC3ATLCSO on February 09, 2010, 09:13:46 PM
I'm sorry for your winter. My wife's family is in the Baltimore area and had 30" last weekend and another 15-20" coming tonight and tomorrow.

They're just not used to that much.

Me, I just need a long sleeve t-shirt,   still in shorts,...




TW.. If I was where you are.  I'd need a lot less than shorts and a long sleeve shirt.  No-one wants to see that. So I'll stay in Iowa
Title: Re: I use to not mind Winter, but now...
Post by: tombogan03884 on February 10, 2010, 02:21:13 AM
NH has gotten off easy this year as well usually we have at least a foot of snow on the ground (After warm spells and settling ) bare ground., Last year was warm and they had to post pone the ice fishing derby as the ice was not thick enough to be safe,  this year it's been 20 degrees for 2 months and we have 18 inches of ice , Derby was 2 weeks ago.
But they canceled the sled dog races because there's no snow.
February and March are usually the worst for snow though, I may not be gloating in a few weeks.  ;D
Title: Re: I use to not mind Winter, but now...
Post by: Solus on February 10, 2010, 07:18:52 AM
We are obviously it what is called the Hop Scotch Propagation Phase of Global Warming.

This phase is cause by the Coriolis Effect, which, in turn, is caused by the Earth's rotation.  The weather patters are formed in alternating spiral arms of hot and cold weather. This is evidenced by unusually warm weather in one arm of the spiral and by unusually cold weather int he adjacent arm.  This alternating of the arms is what we are seeing now. 

If you do not believe this is the phenomena we are experiencing, I will send email to all my friends and they will agree and we will make statements thus proving this is true.   :P :P
Title: Re: I use to not mind Winter, but now...
Post by: crusader rabbit on February 10, 2010, 08:43:25 AM
And the reason we've been so unusually cold in Florida is 'cause the Snow Birds come into the state, then open their trunks to get the luggage, thereby letting all that cold air fall out into Florida.  Solus, we can get email confirmation of this, too.  I have the data (or I can make up enough data) to prove my point.  Just add this to your mailing list. ;) ;D ;) ;D
Title: Re: I use to not mind Winter, but now...
Post by: Solus on February 10, 2010, 09:00:21 AM
And the reason we've been so unusually cold in Florida is 'cause the Snow Birds come into the state, then open their trunks to get the luggage, thereby letting all that cold air fall out into Florida.  Solus, we can get email confirmation of this, too.  I have the data (or I can make up enough data) to prove my point.  Just add this to your mailing list. ;) ;D ;) ;D


Hmm...it doesn't have the WORDS.  It needs some words....

Ahh...  Global Warming High Temperature Air displacement by the  Cold Air redistribution effect precipitated by the seasonal migratory pattern of mature homo sapiens

This will work.

Done
Title: Re: I use to not mind Winter, but now...
Post by: tt11758 on February 10, 2010, 10:44:17 AM
It was 13-below this morning, but the sun is shining brightly today.  We have had more snow this winter than any in the past 30 years.  We've had snowfalls of 12", 18", 28", along with the normal 3"-6" inch snows that fall several times each winter.  Right now the snowbank at the edge of my parking lot is Approximately 12 feet high. 

I'm so effing sick of winter I could scream.





TT - Clicking his heels and repeating, "There's no place  like Phoenix.....there's no place like Phoenix.....there's no place like Phoenix....."
Title: Re: I use to not mind Winter, but now...
Post by: tombogan03884 on February 10, 2010, 11:30:00 AM
NH has gotten off easy this year as well usually we have at least a foot of snow on the ground (After warm spells and settling ) bare ground., Last year was warm and they had to post pone the ice fishing derby as the ice was not thick enough to be safe,  this year it's been 20 degrees for 2 months and we have 18 inches of ice , Derby was 2 weeks ago.
But they canceled the sled dog races because there's no snow.
February and March are usually the worst for snow though, I may not be gloating in a few weeks.  ;D

I knew God would make me pay for that post  ;D
I DID NOT expect to WAKE UP to snow  :(
Only flurries now but based on what we've had so far the flurries will last for a week.
Title: Re: I use to not mind Winter, but now...
Post by: r_w on February 10, 2010, 01:33:30 PM
I wish I was old/rich enough to be a snowbird.  I am pretty sure I am getting older faster than richer. :(

My retirement dream would be to buy a Sportsmobile 4wd camper and spend summers in CO/MT and winters at Gunsite or Baja.  I haven't seen a gunsafe in their floorplans, though.
Title: Re: I use to not mind Winter, but now...
Post by: 2HOW on February 10, 2010, 01:38:25 PM
Its coming down sideways here in E. Tn. with wind chills in the teens. Love it.
Title: Re: I use to not mind Winter, but now...
Post by: PegLeg45 on February 10, 2010, 06:30:41 PM
As long as Al Gore's ass is cold, I'm happy............  ;D
Title: Re: I use to not mind Winter, but now...
Post by: blackwolfe on February 10, 2010, 06:37:12 PM
As long as Al Gore's ass is cold, I'm happy............  ;D


Some how I just can't picture Al Gore with a hot ass. :o ??? ::)
Title: Re: I use to not mind Winter, but now...
Post by: PegLeg45 on February 10, 2010, 06:41:49 PM

Some how I just can't picture Al Gore with a hot ass. :o ??? ::)

Damn....me either......I just hope he's neck deep in snow.......   ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: I use to not mind Winter, but now...
Post by: Walter45Auto on February 11, 2010, 01:04:32 PM
Dude, It's SNOWING in Dallas right now! I didn't know it could snow here past Feb. 2nd........
Title: Re: I use to not mind Winter, but now...
Post by: PegLeg45 on February 12, 2010, 05:58:05 PM
Snow finally got here in south Georgia. Started around 4:00 with ice/snow mixed....then by 6:00 there was actually some accumulation. We have not had this much accumulation in 20 years.

Field next to the house
(http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd352/pegleg45/DSCF7716.jpg)

Across the way to the neighbors hose from the mailbox....
(http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd352/pegleg45/DSCF7795.jpg)

My parents house from the mailbox......
(http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd352/pegleg45/DSCF7799.jpg)

Someone call Al Gore.....he may be on to something..........

Title: Re: I use to not mind Winter, but now...
Post by: 1911 Junkie on February 12, 2010, 07:01:53 PM
Hey Peg, kiss my a$$.  :-*

That isn't snow.

Snow is the stuff that is piled up 3 feet in my yard. If you really want snow, come take mine. I've had my fill.

 ;D
Title: Re: I use to not mind Winter, but now...
Post by: Timothy on February 12, 2010, 07:14:36 PM
Sunny and forties today and through the weekend here in New Engand.  I had to clear some off my car the other day....about an inch...

'bout time y'all got into the action.

 ;D

Be careful, something about snow where it doesn't belong tends to shut down the brain of folks not accustomed to driving in the white stuff.
Title: Re: I use to not mind Winter, but now...
Post by: blackwolfe on February 12, 2010, 07:28:48 PM
Heard today on two differant news programs that there was snow on the ground in all 50 states.  Yes, including Hawaii and Flordia.  Rarely ever happens.  Notice how they have changed the label from global warming to climate change?
Title: Re: I use to not mind Winter, but now...
Post by: Timothy on February 12, 2010, 07:31:21 PM
Heard today on two differant news programs that there was snow on the ground in all 50 states.  Yes, including Hawaii and Flordia.  Rarely ever happens.  Notice how they have changed the label from global warming to climate change?

49 of 50....not probable in Hawaii, it's a volcanic island chain with an average temp of 80 degrees year round.
Title: Re: I use to not mind Winter, but now...
Post by: ericire12 on February 12, 2010, 07:34:23 PM
49 of 50....not probable in Hawaii, it's a volcanic island chain with an average temp of 80 degrees year round.

http://www.newson6.com/Global/story.asp?S=11973034

Marsh, a student employee at the NOAA's National Severe Storms Laboratory in Norman, is currently trying to collect photos of snow on the ground in all 50 states.

"On Friday afternoon, I'm going to begin asking for photos of the snow," Marsh said. "Hopefully I'll get photos from all 50 states, and if I do, I'll put them into a Google Earth map and make a snow snapshot of America."

Marsh said Florida is the only state without snow on the ground at this point, but he said two to four inches of snow is forecasted on Friday in some parts of the state. There is currently even snow on some of the mountain tops in Hawaii.

If you or someone you know in the United States has snow on the ground where they are, tell them to take a pictures and  send it to snow@forwarn.org.
Title: Re: I use to not mind Winter, but now...
Post by: blackwolfe on February 12, 2010, 07:53:23 PM
http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2010/February/Rare-Snowy-Weather-Impacts-South/

Wild Winter of 2010: Snow Hits Every State
By Dale Hurd
CBN News Sr. ReporterFriday, February 12, 2010RSSPodcasts

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Ad Feedback Snow has not fallen in every state today but all 50 states have some accumulation -- even the mountain tops of Hawaii.

The storm moving across the South has brought snow to the Florida panhandle for the first time in a long time. Some places haven't seen this much snow in more than 30 years. 

In Texas, Dallas and Fort Worth broke their one day snowfall records with more than a foot of snow. Many roofs caved in and several trees came down under its weight.

"The tree split, half of it was on this side, on the other half about 30 minutes later on the car," resident Scott Jackson said.

"All I was doing was sleeping in my rocking chair, and then somebody came and told me my car is buried," Gus Matero, another local resident, said.

And with no snow plows in these places, traffic has been a mess. In west Texas, icy roads led to backups, and the backups led to pileups. Flights were cancelled from Dallas to Atlanta.

In North Carolina, heavy winds caused more than a thousand power outages.   

"It was bad last night, I tell you that wind blew hard," South Carolina resident Rachel Day, who lost power during the storm, said. 

Cities in southern Alabama saw their largest snowfall since the 1970s. And in Louisiana, although it wasn't quite a blizzard on the bayou, it was enough to cancel school. 

"I hope we get enough snow to build a snowman...or throw snowballs," one boy said. 

"I think it's really cool, we haven't had snow in a long time and it could like get up to one inch and I'm really excited," one young girl said.   

Northerners might chuckle at all the fuss over a few inches, but when you haven't seen this much snow for decades - if ever - it doesn't take much to create excitement, and big problems.

Meteorologists say it's extremely rare to have so many states with snow at once.

Title: Re: I use to not mind Winter, but now...
Post by: Timothy on February 12, 2010, 07:59:34 PM
Still ain't buying snow in the Hawaian Islands..

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=123662897

I believe that Mauna Kai does get snow at the summit on occasion but the reports don't indicate that..
Title: Re: I use to not mind Winter, but now...
Post by: PegLeg45 on February 12, 2010, 08:05:30 PM
Hey Peg, kiss my a$$.  :-*

That isn't snow.

Snow is the stuff that is piled up 3 feet in my yard. If you really want snow, come take mine. I've had my fill.

 ;D

To us....it's a lot........ but you can keep it........  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D