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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: ericire12 on February 19, 2010, 08:51:22 AM
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/02/19/obama-keeps-democratic-health-option-open/
The president reportedly is working on health care legislation intended to reconcile differences between House and Senate Democrats that could be attached to a budget bill and pass with only 51 Senate votes.
The president's proposal, which is still being written, will be posted on the Internet by Monday morning, senior administration officials and Congressional aides told the New York Times.
By piggybacking the legislation onto a budget bill, Democrats would be able to advance the bill with a simple majority of just 51 votes, averting a Republican filibuster in the Senate.
The White House signaled Thursday that an aggressive, all-Democratic strategy for overhauling the nation's health system remains a serious option, even as Obama invites Republicans to next week's televised summit to seek possible compromises.
"It will be a reconciliation bill," the Times quoted a Democratic aide as saying. "If Republicans don't come with any substantial offers, this is what we would do."
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ANybody who has been paying attention for the past couple of years had to know that the Imposter-In-Chief had some strategy up his sleeve to ram this down the throats of "we the people" who, by and large, don't want it. Why should the "will of the governed" be taken into consideration by these azzholes. They've never listened to us before, why start now?
Bastards.
Time to go buy more rope.
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Queen Nancy said as much shortly after Brown was elected. You notice not much has been in the news about healthcare of late. I assumed that that meant the scheming was afoot behind closed doors.
This video is from January 28, 2010:
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The American people are opposed to this bill. They know what it is. The only hope for the dear leader to pass it is to force it through procedurally. Just like pork. >:(
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Just when you thought the zombies had left they come back. I think these weasels need health care for the dollars. They have spent so much the bucks must come from somewhere and medicine is profitable. I don't want it and I won't subscribe to it.
The people in Washington are blood thirsty vampires, Washington State isn't much better.
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It was released today, and there is a public option in there. ::)
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100222/ap_on_bi_ge/us_health_care_overhaul
WASHINGTON – Making a last-ditch effort to save his health care overhaul, President Barack Obama on Monday put forward a nearly $1 trillion, 10-year compromise that would allow the government to deny or roll back egregious insurance premium increases that infuriated consumers.
Posted Monday morning on the White House Web site, the plan would provide coverage to more than 31 million Americans now uninsured without adding to the federal deficit. It comes just four days before Obama's one-of-a-kind, televised health care summit with Democrats and Republicans.
Even with the latest changes, it's highly uncertain such an ambitious proposal can get through Congress. Republicans are virtually all opposed, and some Democrats who last year supported sweeping health care changes are having second thoughts in an election year. After a year in pursuit of what was once his top domestic priority, Obama may have to settle for a modest fallback.
Weeks ago, the president and congressional Democrats were on the verge of an historic step — a long-sought remake of the nation's health care system after a half-century of unsuccessful attempts by scores of politicians. Then Republican Scott Brown stunned Washington with an upset win in the Massachusetts Senate race, denying Democrats their 60-seat majority and reversing any political momentum.
Determined to avoid facing voters empty-handed, Obama offered a fresh proposal based on Democratic-passed bills.
The plan conspicuously omits a government insurance plan sought by liberals and viewed as a non-starter by conservatives and some congressional moderates. It includes Senate-passed restrictions on federal funding for abortion adamantly opposed by abortion foes as well as abortion rights supporters.
The new White House plan would give the federal government the power to regulate the health insurance industry much like a public utility. The Health and Human Services Department — in conjunction with state authorities — would be able to deny egregious premium increases, limit them or demand rebates for consumers.
Obama, who deferred to Congress on the specifics for more than a year, has finally put forward a detailed plan of his own. By and large, it follows the bill passed by Senate Democrats on Christmas Eve, with changes intended to make it acceptable to their House counterparts.
It would require most Americans to carry health insurance coverage, with federal subsidies to help many afford the premiums. Insurance companies would be barred from denying coverage to people with medical problems or charging them more.
The plan dramatically scales back a Senate tax on high-cost health insurance plans objected to by House Democrats — and labor unions. Instead of raising $150 billion over 10 years, it would bring in just $30 billion, the administration said. A Medicare payroll tax increase on upper-income earners would help plug the revenue gap. For the first time, Medicare taxes would be assessed on investment income, not just wages.
Like the Senate bill, the Obama plan would create competitive insurance markets in each state for small businesses and people buying their own coverage. But it would strip out special Medicaid deals the Senate bill granted to certain states, gradually close the Medicare prescription coverage gap, make newly available coverage for working families more affordable. Those changes move in the direction of the House bill.
Estimated to cost about $1 trillion over 10 years, Obama's plan would be paid for by a mix of Medicare cuts, tax increases and new fees on health care industries.
Oversight of insurance companies has traditionally been a state responsibility. Obama's proposal for a new federal role calls for setting up a seven-member Health Insurance Rate Authority to monitor insurance industry practices and issue an annual report. States that beef up their consumer protection programs would be eligible for a share of $250 million in federal grants.
House Majority Whip James Clyburn, D-S.C., declined to say that House leaders have the votes now to pass the new plan, but said some of the concerns of House members were addressed by the changes Obama is proposing.
"So I do believe that there is more fertile soil today than when we first took this up," Clyburn said.
Democrats, who now hold 255 of the House's 435 seats, drew only one GOP ally when the House passed its health care bill, 220-215, last November. Since then, one Democrat who voted for the bill has resigned, one has died and a third plans to leave office Feb. 28.
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I'm afraid the only way this gets stopped is to cause Democrats to live in fear of their constituents.
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I'm afraid the only way this gets stopped is to cause Democrats to live in fear of their constituents.
Write in Tom and Tom in 2012
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I'm afraid the only way this gets stopped is to cause Democrats to live in fear of their constituents.
I really think that they have come to the point of realization that big losses in the next several elections are inevitable, and that is why they are again pushing this forward. It looked for a very short while that they were hesitant to push too hard on this because of upcoming elections, but now I think that they are seeing this as a situation where they have nothing left to lose and if they are going down they will be taking all of us down with them.
Write in Tom and Tom in 2012
I dont vote 3rd party ;D
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The Rasmussen Reports indicate that 58% of voters dis-approve and only 39% support the current healthcare plan. This does not include Berry's new plan announced today.
I essence Berry is saying, "I don't care what you think you want. I know better! Now relax, you may feel a bit of discomfort."
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I dont vote 3rd party ;D
In 2012 the DEMS will be the third party.
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I dont vote 3rd party ;D
Read a satire the other week about a place where the Lizards of two established political parties held all the offices and 70% of the voters didn't like them or the job they were doing, but they always voted for one of the Lizards because they were afraid to vote for a non-Lizard in case the wrong Lizard got elected.....
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A political party getting desperate. Limbaugh, went through some of the language in the bill, certain provisions won't kick in until 2011 & 2012. No revisions allowed, no filibuster, aka "the fine print" is damning.
Reconciliation, or the "nuclear option" is still very possible. Even though if all Democrats were on board with this, the Republicans couldn't stop any of it, and it would have passed last summer.
How many want to save their hide this coming November?
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I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible foe everything I do Robert Heinlien
By the time the bill kicks in I will be in my remote location, with a community of like minded people. To hell with them.
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This dried up old raisin should be kicked out of there and put to work doing what she is qualified to do..
Emptying the wastebaskets in a Diarrhea Ward. >:(
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Tom & Tom in 2012!!!
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This dried up old raisin should be kicked out of there and put to work doing what she is qualified to do..
Emptying the wastebaskets in a Diarrhea Ward. >:(
Beautiful, I love it!! ;D Bill T.