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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: Wolfgang1952 on February 27, 2010, 09:34:18 PM
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Didn’t know where to put this, so hear it goes.
I have had this cannon since 1961. My Cub Scout Pack used to participate in the reenactments of the Battle of New Orleans at the Chalmette Battle Field on the first Sunday in January. Our district was on the British side. We wear British infantry and we got tired of dying. The only on the British side that didn’t die wear Artillery. One of Dad’s had a wood lath and he turned out the master for the barrel. My Dad took it to Bancroft and Ross which was a foundry in New Orleans and had the barrel cast. Well we never got to us it in any of the reenactments. The Scouts stopped doing the reenactments in the mid 60’s. The barrel was proofed with a pound of powder, it sure jumped. The barrel never had carriage made for it. When I came out of the Navy in 75 I finely got around to building a carriage for my gun. This is the second carriage it has had. It gets shot every New Years and Forth of July. I use ¼ pound charges. It still jumps a good bit, about two feet.
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Very cool.... I have always wanted something like that to go in the yard.... to make the neighbors wonder a little.
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That is COOL ! ;D
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I think it would make a great conversation piece in the living room. Loaded wth grape and pointed at the front door of course, but then folks have accused me of being a bit paranod. ;D
FQ13
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Put it in the front yard and point it at a different neighbor each week! Gives a new meaning to "An armed society is a polite society"!!!!! LOL
JMHO
Richard
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How cool. Too bad the Scouts gave that up, but a plus for you.
I want one. 8)
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It would make a great conversation piece at the neighborhood crime watch meetings.
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Thats awesome.... Ive always wished I had a small cannon...... If I ever get a place to shoot one on a regular basis, I just might.
Didn’t know where to put this, so hear it goes.
Next time try "tactical rifle and carbine" ;D
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awesome mate! I am really thinking about getting one made myself, I just dont know how firearms branch here would licence it though. LOL
"Hi I would like to get a Cannon put on my licence"
Police "you want what"?
"a cannon you know, black powder, large balls goes Boom!"
Police "WTF for"
"Just incase of the british want Tasmania back" ;D ;D
One can never be too careful when it comes to poms, theyre sneaky buggers!
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awesome mate! I am really thinking about getting one made myself, I just dont know how firearms branch here would licence it though. LOL
One can never be too careful when it comes to poms, theyre sneaky buggers!
If you ever ned a sponsor for refugee, er, I mean immigration status, PM me. ;D
FQ13 who would pay to watch that converation LOL
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They might let you have it to keep the Brits out of Tasmania.
Just tell them you heard Bligh might be coming back. ;D
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If you ever ned a sponsor for refugee, er, I mean immigration status, PM me. ;D
FQ13 who would pay to watch that converation LOL
I have just sent them an email to enquire, will advise if I get an answer or an impromtu visit from the police checking for large cal ordinance LOL
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They might let you have it to keep the Brits out of Tasmania.
Just tell them you heard Bligh might be coming back. ;D
Not worried about blight, was thinking about if the Spice Girls ever get back together and want to tour down under, now if there was ever a brit that needed strapping to a cannon its those slappers.
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If we don't hear from you, we will assume , No, you can't have a cannon. ;D
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How cool. Too bad the Scouts gave that up, but a plus for you.
I want one. 8)
It wasn’t so much the Scouts giving it up. The US Park Service is really the ones that stopped the reenactments. They started using regular reenactment people, with their living history type stuff. Plus I think they were afraid some kid was going to get hurt and the Park Service being suied..
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The re enactors don't mind always being the ones to lose ;D
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It wasn’t so much the Scouts giving it up. The US Park Service is really the ones that stopped the reenactments. They started using regular reenactment people, with their living history type stuff. Plus I think they were afraid some kid was going to get hurt and the Park Service being suied..
Wolfgang
I go back and forth on this issue, but (this week :-\) my advice, don't list the hardware in your sig. There are good reasons pro and con. for both views. I've adopted an "If you ask, I will tell" policy, but beyond that, I try for a bit of discretion, which is probably useless in the age of google. BTW, nice guns! ;D
FQ13
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Wolfgang
I go back and forth on this issue, but (this week :-\) my advice, don't list the hardware in your sig. There are good reasons pro and con. for both views. I've adopted an "If you ask, I will tell" policy, but beyond that, I try for a bit of discretion, which is probably useless in the age of google. BTW, nice guns! ;D
FQ13
I thought the same thing, but that is only a small part, and thoes are the ones i USE tHE most. Never mind the owner, beware of the WOLFS. Right now about sixty on premis, andten in house. I well remove sig. list..
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It would make a great conversation piece at the neighborhood crime watch meetings.
Especially if it got stolen.
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get a 7ft length of 8.5 inch ID cast iron pipe, a few coils of plumber's twin and a stack of bowling ball...no one will get close enough to tell the difference....and I believe it should all be legal anywhere?
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If we don't hear from you, we will assume , No, you can't have a cannon. ;D
Well I sent off an email the other day and they havent locked me away, and I got a response.
The initial response:
-----Original Message-----
From: xxxxx.xxxxxx@police.tas.gov.au
[mailto:xxxxxxxxxxx@police.tas.gov.au]
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 8:44 AM
To: Robert
Subject: Re: Enquiry - Re Black Powder Cannon
Good morning Bob,
Funnily enough, a cannon is classed a a cat B1 firearm, so all you'd need to do application wise is submit an application for a permit to acquire in the usual fashion.
I'd suggest a decent explanatory letter being attached, cos it's probably likey to raise a few eyebrows.
I am not sure what you'd need to do re securing it though. What size cannon are you looking at acquiring?
Regards,
XXXX XXXXXX
Firearm Services
Tasmania Police
So I sent off another email stating what where how and why.
response: (He even managed to get my name correct, and was quite helpful :o )
Good afternoon Robert,
in reference to your email, i can advise the following:
1) if it is an original pre-1900, it'd be exempt unless you have on-hand ammunition for it, and intend to use it. if it's a 'user', it'll need to be registered, permit-to-acquire'd and stored as any other firearm.
2) full size would be somewhat tricky, anything smaller, and having the barrel stored in a gunsafe, and the woodwork left out wuold be fine (same as a firearm - the stock isnt defined as a firearm 'part' under the Firearms Act 1996).
3) if you were going to have one manufactured, it'd need to be done by a licensed gunsmith (but i'm sure you knew that already), registered by him/her, and then transferred to you in the usual manner. if it was for club (shooting) purposes, your application for permit to acquire would probably need to be endorsed by a club official, cos i can be 98% sure the eyebrows would go up when it was processed on our end.
4) not sure what calibre you'd be interested in acquiring, but i recall processing a couple of CVA brand (Connecticut Valley Arms) mini-cannons a few years back in both .44 and .45. they were ~6 inches in length, made from turned stainless steel, and even had the bores rifled. they came mounted on wooden bases too. just something to consider...
5) you might find a dealer by the name of John PRESSER a very interesting chappie to talk to about cannon and the like, as i know he has had some dealings with them over the years. let me know if you dont have his contact details, and i'll pass his number along.
Regards,
XXXXXXXXXXX
Firearm Services
Tasmania Police
So I sent anothet back and mentioned how it would be worth it to apply just to see the look on their faces.
response:
Robert,
we've had applications for howitzers, bazookas and rpgs, and even on one occasion a tank...
that being said, most of the staff here arent firearms enthusiasts, so the expression would indeed be worth seeing.
keep me posted if you decide to go ahead with it, and i'll see if i can pass on how far their jaw(s) drop.
best of luck with it.
Regards,
XXXXXXXXXXXX
Firearm Services
Tasmania Police
Hehee, it seems that this gentleman may be a shooter of some sorts, and at least good value. It also means to me that most in that department are bureaucrat public servants who have no interest in their chosen employment. I mean why would a place employ people who have no interest in that fireld? another example of Govt ##&#wittery!
But least theirs hope ;D
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In Fl. fire works are severly restricted. Basically, if it flies or explodes, you can't have it. UNLESS, you are using it to scare birds away from crops or ornamental shrubbery. All you have to do is sign a paper to that effect when you buy your flying, exploding whizbang. Its amazing how many farmers show up on July 4 and New Years Eve. ;D ;D ;D It sounds like you've got a potential mate in the PD. My advice? Invite him to go shooting with something non-threatening like a shotgun for skeet or a bolt action on the range. Shout him a round afterwards. It will be money and time well spent because you never know when that type of contact will save your butt.
FQ13 who is a bit cynical, but would rather great a a cop with "Hey Bob what's up?" than "I would like to speak to an attorney". Just sayin'. ;)
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In Fl. fire works are severly restricted. Basically, if it flies or explodes, you can't have it. UNLESS, you are using it to scare birds away from crops or ornamental shrubbery. All you have to do is sign a paper to that effect when you buy your flying, exploding whizbang. Its amazing how many farmers show up on July 4 and New Years Eve. ;D ;D ;D It sounds like you've got a potential mate in the PD. My advice? Invite him to go shooting with something non-threatening like a shotgun for skeet or a bolt action on the range. Shout him a round afterwards. It will be money and time well spent because you never know when that type of contact will save your butt.
FQ13 who is a bit cynical, but would rather great a a cop with "Hey Bob what's up?" than "I would like to speak to an attorney". Just sayin'. ;)
I agree in your sentiments, I actually had a meeting today with my states Attorney General/Deputy Premier of Tasmania to discuss aspects of the firearms legislation and bias towards us LAFO's as opposed to the criminal. It went as well as could be expected and the offer is there for future discussions and correspondence. Her position is the equiv of your deputy govenor and deputy district attorney.
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In Fl. fire works are severly restricted. Basically, if it flies or explodes, you can't have it. UNLESS, you are using it to scare birds away from crops or ornamental shrubbery. All you have to do is sign a paper to that effect when you buy your flying, exploding whizbang.
Since when? I was in FL for the faux millennium (1999-2000), went to a local store, and bought a ton of flying and banging things. Don't recal ever signing anything.
Then sat out with a couple of County Sheriff's deputies at a block party and shot them all off.