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Title: Springfield XD
Post by: James Raby on January 04, 2008, 03:17:23 PM
I just wanted the forum members to know that I bought a Springfield XD 4 inch 45 ACP for Christmas. I called their customer service department about the free XD gear that comes with the weapon especially the holster as I am lefthanded and I wanted to know if I could exchange it for a left hand one. In five days I received a left handed paddle holster with a "Merry Christmas" note. Fantistic customer service and gun. THANKS SPRINGFIELD! You have a customer for life. :)
Title: Re: Springfield XD
Post by: Bill Stryker on January 04, 2008, 03:42:21 PM
James,

Good buy! I just got back from the range were I spent some time with my XD .45  4 inch also. I really like the gun. I am planning on using it for league this year. I did not have it in time for league last year and only got to shoot one match with it. That turned out to be my best score for the year. Yes, I do like that gun.

The downside is finding a reload that works. Do any of you out there have any thing to recommend? I have talked to Springfield in person at Camp Perry and by email. They are a bit down on reloading, but they did tell me that the SWC loads that work well in my Colts and SIG 220 won't work. [As I found out. They stick in the magazine.] And that any problems caused by reloads would not be covered by the warranty.
Title: Re: Springfield XD
Post by: Dougdubya on January 04, 2008, 11:03:51 PM
I loved the XD9 I tried out.  Very nice looking too, since it comes from the factory in two-tone. 
Title: Re: Springfield XD
Post by: 45shootr on January 05, 2008, 06:35:23 AM
James,

Good buy! I just got back from the range were I spent some time with my XD .45  4 inch also. I really like the gun. I am planning on using it for league this year. I did not have it in time for league last year and only got to shoot one match with it. That turned out to be my best score for the year. Yes, I do like that gun.

The downside is finding a reload that works. Do any of you out there have any thing to recommend? I have talked to Springfield in person at Camp Perry and by email. They are a bit down on reloading, but they did tell me that the SWC loads that work well in my Colts and SIG 220 won't work. [As I found out. They stick in the magazine.] And that any problems caused by reloads would not be covered by the warranty.


Try using Rainier 200 grain rn with your choice of powder and primer. I haven't had a ftf in my XD since.
Title: Re: Springfield XD
Post by: kilopaparomeo on January 05, 2008, 02:38:22 PM
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The downside is finding a reload that works

That's funny...I've never fed my 5" XD45 anything BUT reloads in over 1500 rounds and it has never choked...not even once.  Hardball and JHP.  In fact, my XD is my go to gun when I have something that chokes in the other 45s I own (lots of 1911s and SIGs).
Title: Re: Springfield XD
Post by: tnroadrunner on January 06, 2008, 07:15:52 AM
I own two XD9's a 5" and a 4".  The four inch is my carry gun and also use it in IDPA.  The five inch I use for USPSA and three gun.  Love them both.
Title: Re: Springfield XD
Post by: Bidah on January 06, 2008, 04:21:56 PM
If you are going to use reloads, the XD prefers round nose profiles.  You can get SWC's to work, you just have to play with them to get the right length.  They seem to be similar to CZ's in regards to the throat being a little short.  I shoot SWC reloads in my XD all the time, and surprise, it likes the same length as my CZ.. :)

-Bidah
Title: Re: Springfield XD
Post by: tnroadrunner on January 07, 2008, 06:29:54 AM
My stepson just bought an XD9 3inch yesterday at the gun show in Nashville.  I think he really got a good buy.
Title: Re: Springfield XD
Post by: Bill Stryker on January 07, 2008, 09:58:01 AM
Thanks for the tips for reloading, 45shootr,kilopaparomeo, and Bidah.

Bidah,

What is the over all length you load the SWCs to? I'd still like to find an SWC load that I can use in all my .45s.

45shootr,

Thanks for the tip. I have asked my club to order the Rainier 200gr RN for me.
Title: Re: Springfield XD
Post by: hodman on January 07, 2008, 06:03:15 PM
A few weeks ago I had the opportunity to try out an X D that Springfield had built for one of their professional shooters.  The trigger that they were able to put on this gun was every bit as good as most 1911’s.   I thought these were good guns even before Springfield started importing them I wish I had bought one when the retail with 329.00.
Title: Re: Springfield XD
Post by: jaybet on January 07, 2008, 07:34:35 PM
A few weeks ago I had the opportunity to try out an X D that Springfield had built for one of their professional shooters.  The trigger that they were able to put on this gun was every bit as good as most 1911’s.   I thought these were good guns even before Springfield started importing them I wish I had bought one when the retail with 329.00.
Who is the maker of the Springfield import? Are they making any nice inexpensive pistols of their own?
Title: Re: Springfield XD
Post by: cookie62 on January 07, 2008, 09:09:07 PM
If you own an xd, you can't beat this deal on extra mags. Three mags and a mag holder for 33 bucks! they are back ordered, but its worth the wait. took about a month to get mine.

http://xdpistols.com/category/303-XD_Magazine_Kits.aspx
Title: Re: Springfield XD
Post by: sthsenior on January 07, 2008, 10:51:41 PM
Thanks Cookie, I got in line.  Quite a deal!
Title: Re: Springfield XD
Post by: Dougdubya on January 08, 2008, 01:15:01 AM
Who is the maker of the Springfield import? Are they making any nice inexpensive pistols of their own?

HS - a Croatian company, and I believe it's the only pistol they make across the pond, but someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Some days, I'm all about the sleek new polymer pistols, but days like today, it's all Thumb-busters with five beans in the wheel and my buryin' money under the hammer.
Title: Re: Springfield XD
Post by: jaybet on January 08, 2008, 08:34:21 AM
HS - a Croatian company, and I believe it's the only pistol they make across the pond, but someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Some days, I'm all about the sleek new polymer pistols, but days like today, it's all Thumb-busters with five beans in the wheel and my buryin' money under the hammer.
You just need at least one of each. Then you can start duplicating and compare one against the other!
Title: Re: Springfield XD
Post by: Michael Bane on January 08, 2008, 09:29:00 AM
Jaybethal;

That, of course, is my theory! I would hate to be pinned down on one gun, or even one type of gun. My friend Charles Riggs, one of the original GUNSITE rats, now carries an XD and loves it.

Michael B
Title: Re: Springfield XD
Post by: jaybet on January 08, 2008, 09:39:41 AM
Actually XD 3" barrel is on my short list-  (HAHAHA- get it?)
Because of money though, I'm going to have to choose between XD and a snubbie. Then it gets down to, well, do I REALLY have to have a 44 or can it be 357? Oh, and I guess I'm going used, looking for that GREAT buy instead of my usual, which is, "I want it, I charge it"!
Same old problems- No Gotz gun, No Gotz money.  
Title: Re: Springfield XD
Post by: hodman on January 08, 2008, 05:12:28 PM
Who is the maker of the Springfield import? Are they making any nice inexpensive pistols of their own?

Here is a link that talks about H. S. in Croatia.  They apparently make a few other guns

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HS_Produkt
http://www.usembassy.hr/military/odc/immetal.htm
Title: Re: Springfield XD
Post by: Dougdubya on January 08, 2008, 06:08:39 PM
Actually XD 3" barrel is on my short list-  (HAHAHA- get it?)
Because of money though, I'm going to have to choose between XD and a snubbie. Then it gets down to, well, do I REALLY have to have a 44 or can it be 357? Oh, and I guess I'm going used, looking for that GREAT buy instead of my usual, which is, "I want it, I charge it"!
Same old problems- No Gotz gun, No Gotz money.  

I'm pretty sure they make an XD357 compact with a 3" barrel.  With a full magazine barrel sleeve, it looks comfy.

Sure, it's splitting the hairs, but I'm that type of guy.  ;)
Title: Re: Springfield XD
Post by: Bidah on January 08, 2008, 07:49:20 PM
Bidah,

What is the over all length you load the SWCs to? I'd still like to find an SWC load that I can use in all my .45s.


Well I can't get you a length since I am not at home to measure it.  The bullet that I was using is no longer made, and I find every one from a different manufacturer is slightly different.  What I do is take a few and keep working it down until it will feed and lockup by hand, take it down a little bit more, around .002, and then load up 10 and shoot them to function check.  Then I load up 100, and try that.

I won't be home until next week.

-Bidah
Title: Re: Springfield XD
Post by: Thrasher on January 17, 2008, 12:03:11 PM
Happy to read all the positive responses RE: the XD 45. I just ordered my 4" today.
My son-in-law is in LE and carries a 3" XD in .40 S&W as a back up. I was really impressed how accurate it is even with the 3" barrel right out of the box.
 This weapon will be used basically as a house gun. Has anyone had any experience mounting a light to thier XD? Pros? Cons? I'm interested in hearing any responses
Title: Re: Springfield XD
Post by: Dougdubya on January 17, 2008, 01:37:55 PM
Happy to read all the positive responses RE: the XD 45. I just ordered my 4" today.
My son-in-law is in LE and carries a 3" XD in .40 S&W as a back up. I was really impressed how accurate it is even with the 3" barrel right out of the box.

The same thing happens with short barrel Kahr's and the Glock 27 - the shorter the barrel, the stiffer and more accuracy-conductive it becomes for the .40. 
Title: Re: Springfield XD
Post by: jaybet on January 17, 2008, 04:51:44 PM
I was looking at the little 3" XD's the other day in .40. I asked if they can get me a 9mm and the guy said no.
NJ has a limit of 15 on magazine capacity and the 9mm comes with a 16 rd and 10 rd mag.
The dealer said he can't get the 9m.
Is that the stupidest thing you ever heard?

Why wouldn't Springfield modify the mags to make a 15 rd for NJ or just sell with 2 10 rd mags?
I know...there are ways around that, but if I ever had an incident, it wouldn't matter how bad the bad guy was, the only thing that would matter would be that I had one too many rounds in the mag.  
Title: Re: Springfield XD
Post by: Walter45Auto on January 17, 2008, 05:35:55 PM
Sounds like BS to me, Jay. I'm looking at SA's online catalog for the XD, and under the subcompact, it says "*High Capacity Magazines May Not be available in all states." Says NOTHING about the gun not being sold in those states.
http://www.springfield-armory.com/xd.php

I think this guy just wants you to buy the one he already has there.
Title: Re: Springfield XD
Post by: jaybet on January 17, 2008, 07:00:56 PM
Sounds like BS to me, Jay. I'm looking at SA's online catalog for the XD, and under the subcompact, it says "*High Capacity Magazines May Not be available in all states." Says NOTHING about the gun not being sold in those states.
http://www.springfield-armory.com/xd.php

I think this guy just wants you to buy the one he already has there.
You're right...this guy is a nice guy and I don't think he's even that sharp- he probably THINKS he can't get one, but he's not the brightest bulb in the drawer...
Since I'm such a d--k I'm going to email Springfield and have some fun whining and see what they say.[/color]
Title: Re: Springfield XD
Post by: xd40lover on January 18, 2008, 02:32:09 PM
got my xd40 sub com for my carry gun. i carry it in a shoulder rig . this is very handy sitting in a car , truck, in my case a 78 c j 7 jeep!!! put a lot ammo Thur it with out any problem but never any reloads. used in my CWP class and it was the talk of the class. when i bought it i had to get my favorite gun shop to order it. its worth more now than when i bought it. but ...no sale. XD40LOVER!!
Title: Re: Springfield XD
Post by: jaybet on January 19, 2008, 08:59:36 AM
You're right...this guy is a nice guy and I don't think he's even that sharp- he probably THINKS he can't get one, but he's not the brightest bulb in the drawer...
Since I'm such a d--k I'm going to email Springfield and have some fun whining and see what they say.[/color]
In keeping with that attitude, here I am quoting myself!
The email response from Springfield was that the 9mm is available with two 10 rd mags and just needs to be ordered by leaving out the "HC" in the part number. Simple enough...but 10 round mags? Come-on.
I guess there might be after market mags out there in 15 rd?
Title: Re: Springfield XD
Post by: Dougdubya on January 19, 2008, 02:29:29 PM
In keeping with that attitude, here I am quoting myself!
The email response from Springfield was that the 9mm is available with two 10 rd mags and just needs to be ordered by leaving out the "HC" in the part number. Simple enough...but 10 round mags? Come-on.
I guess there might be after market mags out there in 15 rd?

I'm fairly certain that you can modify Beretta 92 magazines to fit your XD9.  I forget where it was said.  It's one of the reasons why I wrote a character picking up an XD instead of a Beretta 9000 as his backup for his full-sized Beretta.

The character himself would have no problem with the hideous ergonomics of the 9000, but since he's 6'3" with big hands, if he hands someone else the backup piece, they'll have to stretch to use the trigger.  The XD, however, is ergonomic joy.
Title: Re: Springfield XD
Post by: SlideRacker on January 23, 2008, 10:24:17 PM
There is a used XD Tactical in "OD" green at a local pawn shop. I have been thinking about adding it to the family. It comes with three hi-cap mags. It looks box new, but I know the guy who traded it in. He shoots a gun alot then grows tired of it and trades it in. The price is $500. I think it's a good deal one day then the next I am not sure. What do you guys think?
Title: Re: Springfield XD
Post by: jaybet on January 24, 2008, 06:20:49 AM
I'm thinking $500 might be a bit much. I've seen brand new 4" models for about $530, although I've seen them marked as high as $700.
Title: Re: Springfield XD
Post by: Bidah on January 24, 2008, 11:34:28 AM
There is a used XD Tactical in "OD" green at a local pawn shop. I have been thinking about adding it to the family. It comes with three hi-cap mags. It looks box new, but I know the guy who traded it in. He shoots a gun alot then grows tired of it and trades it in. The price is $500. I think it's a good deal one day then the next I am not sure. What do you guys think?

You did not say which caliber.  Overall, $500 is a bit much in my book for a used Tactical.  New ones go for about that, or less depending on where you are locally.

-Bidah
Title: Re: Springfield XD
Post by: HawesJ on January 24, 2008, 11:48:13 AM
I just bought an XD 45 ACP tatical brand new for just a little over 500 I would not pay that for a used tatical either.
Title: Re: Springfield XD
Post by: SlideRacker on January 24, 2008, 12:57:46 PM
It's a .40, and I think you're right. I looked at a few on the net. 500 would be a bit high for a used one even with the mags.
Title: Re: Springfield XD
Post by: Chunky Monkey on January 26, 2008, 03:58:54 PM
I was dead set on getting a 4" 45 compact here soon.  Really wanted on for CCW since it would have the shorter grip that would be great for concealing.  Definately want 45 acp as I have boatloads of brass and components in 45. 

But I found out recently that Springfield does not sell parts to individuals.  Therefore if something goes wrong I would have to send it to Springfield or find a gunsmith who repairs them (not any in my area as far as I can figure). 

My other thought is now about the M & P 45.  However, it is not a compact.  I really would like the shorter grip to CC in Crossbreed supertuck!  Does anybody know if S & W will soon offer the M & P in compact version?

I haven't ruled out the XD, just tossing a few thoughts through the ole noggin! ???  I insight here would be pleasantly recieved.
Title: Re: Springfield XD
Post by: Ugly on January 26, 2008, 04:57:51 PM
Cookie 62: thanks for the info on the XD magazines; I just ordered mine.  I've got the 4" XD in .45 and it's really a honey to shoot.  My pistol has had nothing but my reloads thru it; seemes to prefer federal primers though.  Is a striker-type pistol hitting primers lighter than say a Kimber with firing pin? I don't know if the gun would function reliably with normal purchased ammo or, is there an adjustment that can be made to enable harder hits?  I won this gun without knowing anything about them; very pleasant surprise but now I have a few questions.  Thanks again for the info on the magazines though.
Title: Re: Springfield XD
Post by: rick6336 on January 26, 2008, 10:03:59 PM
I bought a 9mmXD Sub compact with the green frame a little over a year ago for a ccw. The other 9mm is a Ruger 95DC that I've had for a few years.  I bought the Ruger so my wife could learn to shoot as she didnt like my 45's.   The day I brought the XD into the house, my wife held it for 10 seconds and then claimed it as hers. We both love the XD.  This was a switch for me though. I've mostly owned 45's. Now I'm looking at getting the 45 XD next