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Member Section => Defense and Tactics => Topic started by: god45644 on March 01, 2010, 11:42:40 PM
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I carry a snub nosed .357 in a pocket holster. I think the HKS speedloaders are hard/awkward to carry and I think the speedstrips take too long to load one cartridge at a time. My question is, "Is there a magazine type reloader available for revolvers?" Think speed strip meets magazine. It would be like a semi auto magazine only straight up and down with nothing on the bottom, like putting .357 in a 9mm magazine and feeding the round out of the top with the mag spring pushing the next round up to be loaded. This would allow a greater amount of rounds available for reloading 10 (single stack) - 20 (double stack) rounds, make it easier to carry, less awkward than the speedloader, and less cumbersome than the speedstrip. Are there any other options available as well?
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I suggest you start drawing out a plan.
Check for small sheet metal fabricators in your area who may be willing to help you build a prototype.
How would you compensate for the different spacing on different Cylinders ?
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general pracice for reloading revos is load two, shoot two. Now if you are behind cover and have time, of corse reload fully.
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This is why the New York reload came into being
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This is why the New York reload came into being
?? New York Reload? I know MB said with an SA shoot two / reload two works well.
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Don't miss when you shoot.
If not, how about moon clips?
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You might try to find a mag for a Coonan .357 SA and see if that works. Other than the AutoMag that is the only .357 SA I know of.
FWIW
Richard
PS: I have read where others have had the same idea.
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Lets see, a small, reliable, CCW type weapon that fits in a pocket and reloads with something like a magazine. Hmmm.........Did someone say Glock 26, 27 or 34? ;D
FQ13 who really couldn't resist
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Lets see, a small, reliable, CCW type weapon that fits in a pocket and reloads with something like a magazine. Hmmm.........Did someone say Glock 26, 27 or 34? ;D
FQ13 who really couldn't resist
Or KelTek ;)
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Or KelTek ;)
Agreed. I don't like them,but I would trust my life to one.
FQ13
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Or KelTek Kel-Tec ;)
He continually insists on spelling it wrong....
CLIP!
;D
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OK! I am guilty, "MEA CULPA"! ;D
Still, ya didn't answer my "what's a New Yawk" reload. SO THERE! :P
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My Bianchi speed strips load two at a time, strip, rotate, two more, and one; can put a fresh set in my M85 from eject to closed cylinder in around 7-10 seconds.
Is this an eternity when involved in a SD situation? Yes.
Do I practice all the time so perhaps a reload isn't necessary until the BG is motionless on the floor? Yes.
Do I also carry semi-auto?
Yes..
Speedloaders from HKS are hard from a civilian wardrobe practicality,...without scaring the "straights" with a belt holster for the speedloaders, the strips work with practice.
If you can design the latest greatest thing, that would be great...I am interested.
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Haz, a Nu Yawk reload is a second gun fully loaded and ready to go
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I would agree that the HKS speedoaders are a little awkward. They are pretty easy to find and most of us are pretty familiar wit them. Hopefully, you've got some cover before you need to do any type of reload, particularly on a revolver. With speed strips, I'd practice loading 2 cartridges at a time.
There are many other makers of speedloaders that you may find to be much quicker than the HKS. The Maxfires are pretty sweet and simple to operate.
http://www.speedloaders.com
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productnumber=677957
(http://www.speedloaders.com/images/adphoto.JPG)
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45644, your idea has some merit, the Coonan mag is the one I would go for, it is the ejecting of spent versus live round in a revolver, it is quite the trick to eject the spents, without the live rounds, it can be done, but you need to practice often, it is easier with the short revolvers, as they have only a 2" to 2 1/2" ejector, which will only raise the rounds but not completely eject them, so you could pick the spents out by hand, and use the mag to load the empty cylinders. Thumbing them off the mag, into the cylinder. Under stress, I would prefer emptying the cylinder completely, and reloading the full 5 or 6. I use safariland comp 1 as speed loaders, very rugged and dependable. Harder to hide, but reliable. Speedstrips work well too, but take practice, again as I have mentioned.
Good luck.
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Thanks for the feedback, it has been helpful. I carry the snubnose with a crimson trace laser grip. The reason I don't carry a semi-auto is, should the need arise, if my wife should have to take over (she prefers not to carry b/c she is a family counselor = huge liability on her part) I can give her the gun and all she has to do is point and shoot; no messing with stovepipes or semi-auto jams and clears. I'll let you know if I develop a prototype. Great advice, Thanks All.
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sounds like what might work is a Reverse Uplula. So rounds would be presented and "push buttoned" into the cylinder. Have no idea if it would be any faster than the two at a time strip loader...but maybe.
Only other approach that I can think of would be a regular strip that was slit so it could be formed into a circle for loading all rounds at once. The speed at which the circle could be formed would determine if it was any time improvement. Maybe a circular strip that needed to be forced and held in it's straight form and held that way and then could be quickly released and return to circular.