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Title: Wine Suggestions
Post by: Timothy on March 10, 2010, 09:13:19 AM
I'm in need of some information an a decent (won't brake the bank) Merlot wine.

I don't drink and know more about Balsamic Vinegar than I do about wine. 

thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Wine Suggestions
Post by: shooter32 on March 10, 2010, 09:26:33 AM
I'm in need of some information an a decent (won't brake the bank) Merlot wine.

I don't drink and know more about Balsamic Vinegar than I do about wine. 

thanks in advance.

Vinegar and Merlot... one in the same!   :-X

 ;D

http://wine.lovetoknow.com/wiki/Cheap_Merlot_Wine

Title: Re: Wine Suggestions
Post by: Pathfinder on March 10, 2010, 09:39:16 AM
Kendall-Jackson wines are usually pretty good, pricier than most off the shelf stuff, but still reasonable. I drink mostly white, so I can't help much beyond that.

Oh, stay away from the merlot-in-a-box brands too!  ;D
Title: Re: Wine Suggestions
Post by: ericire12 on March 10, 2010, 09:49:25 AM
+1 for Kendall-Jackson...... its probably the best buy for reasonably priced (Super market) wines. Also, if you are looking for a Red but dont like dry wines.... they have a great Pinot Noir.


You also may want to concentrate on location rather then brand..... Just about anything made in Nappa Valley, Chile, Austrailia, France, Italy are good.


BTW.... the best tasting bubbly out there is Martini & Rossi Asti....... and it can be had for $13-$15 ;)
Title: Re: Wine Suggestions
Post by: billt on March 10, 2010, 10:07:07 AM
Black Jack on the rocks, with a splash of 7 Up! Oh yeah!  Bill T.
Title: Re: Wine Suggestions
Post by: JC5123 on March 10, 2010, 10:25:21 AM
Berringer makes a very good white merlot. Very reasonable. $15-20 +/-  Also widely available. Just make sure it's the WHITE merlot. As the regular merlot tends to be very overpowering.
Title: Re: Wine Suggestions
Post by: Timothy on March 10, 2010, 10:43:14 AM
Black Jack on the rocks, with a splash of 7 Up! Oh yeah!  Bill T.

I know plenty about whiskey Bill, I said I don't drink....I never said I've never partaken of the nectar!   ;D

BTW.....never touch that TN whiskey and no self respecting drinker mixes good booze with sody pop!


 ;D

Single Malt Scots, neat or a single rock.....TYVM...... ;)
Title: Re: Wine Suggestions
Post by: Hazcat on March 10, 2010, 10:43:33 AM
Barefoot is also a good CA wine.
Title: Re: Wine Suggestions
Post by: fightingquaker13 on March 10, 2010, 10:46:49 AM
What are you be serving it with? As a rule merlot tends to be medium bodied with a lot of fruit. They can be almost jammy or sweet if you're not careful. Most however aren't and tend to be more friendly to white wine drinkers and non-wine people than say, a cab. But the key to a merlot is knowing what to pair it with as it can be too much (say a grilled veal chop) or too lttle (say a nice beef stew) in a heck of a hurry.
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Title: Re: Wine Suggestions
Post by: crusader rabbit on March 10, 2010, 11:00:50 AM
Berringer makes a very good white merlot. Very reasonable. $15-20 +/-  Also widely available. Just make sure it's the WHITE merlot. As the regular merlot tends to be very overpowering.
White Merlot is what used to be called rose wine.  It is an abomination to those of us who really enjoy a nice glass of real merlot (sorry if this is one of your favorites).  And I would challenge you on your assessment that anything Berringer makes is "quite good."

For a reasonably good merlot at a reasonable price, I would recommend Barefoot Vinyards.  For a reasonable merlot at an exceptional price, Gallo Family Merlot is a good wine.  You will also find some decent Chilean merlots--specifically Frontera by Concha y Toro.  It is a fairly good merlot at a very reasonable price.  Another somewhat more expensive but quite good merlot is Fat Bastard.
Title: Re: Wine Suggestions
Post by: fightingquaker13 on March 10, 2010, 11:16:20 AM
White Merlot is what used to be called rose wine.  It is an abomination to those of us who really enjoy a nice glass of real merlot (sorry if this is one of your favorites).  And I would challenge you on your assessment that anything Berringer makes is "quite good."

For a reasonably good merlot at a reasonable price, I would recommend Barefoot Vinyards.  For a reasonable merlot at an exceptional price, Gallo Family Merlot is a good wine.  You will also find some decent Chilean merlots--specifically Frontera by Concha y Toro.  It is a fairly good merlot at a very reasonable price.  Another somewhat more expensive but quite good merlot is Fat Bastard.
Dittos to the rabbit. I like all of these. I would also suggest a Robert Bruce merolt (though you're pushing $30 here). I would also check out Bonny Doon (label art by Ralph Steadman of Hunter Thompson fame) and good wine at a reasonable price. Their "Heart of Darkness" Petit-Syrah is  like a merlot's big brother.Very nice and with a sense of humor. (For humor, and good cheap table wine try Reds, its just a generic meritage that tastes like chianti and goes for less the ten bucks a pop. The funny part is that each cork has a famous commie on it. Mao, lenin, Marx etc. Collect them all! ;D It might put you off your food, but it is funny, particulary since they'd all hate being used to sell wine to the bourgeoise). Another alternative is a Modavie Claret. Its a bit heavier than a merlot (more a zin) it is however one of the best wine values out there. Its an $15 bottle that tastes like it cost twice that.
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Title: Re: Wine Suggestions
Post by: Timothy on March 10, 2010, 02:50:34 PM
Thanks Fellas.....I have a list, I'll let you know what I buy and get a range report when the young couple enjoy their gift...

Title: Re: Wine Suggestions
Post by: alfsauve on March 10, 2010, 04:02:47 PM
The least expensive is 3 buck chuck at Trader Joe's.   Not great but cheap.

Linderman Reserve label is good in the <$10 a bottle "table" class.



Title: Re: Wine Suggestions
Post by: ericire12 on March 10, 2010, 04:05:25 PM
The least expensive is 3 buck chuck at Trader Joe's.   Not great but cheap.

Linderman Reserve label is good in the <$10 a bottle "table" class.





I dont think he was asking for "cooking wines" ;D
Title: Re: Wine Suggestions
Post by: JC5123 on March 10, 2010, 04:55:03 PM
White Merlot is what used to be called rose wine.  It is an abomination to those of us who really enjoy a nice glass of real merlot (sorry if this is one of your favorites).  And I would challenge you on your assessment that anything Berringer makes is "quite good."

For a reasonably good merlot at a reasonable price, I would recommend Barefoot Vinyards.  For a reasonable merlot at an exceptional price, Gallo Family Merlot is a good wine.  You will also find some decent Chilean merlots--specifically Frontera by Concha y Toro.  It is a fairly good merlot at a very reasonable price.  Another somewhat more expensive but quite good merlot is Fat Bastard.

To each his own. One thing that I have found is that wine is just like guns. Tastes differ. I have tried several "REAL" merlots and hated everyone of them. (a couple were pushing the $100/bottle mark too) I have simply found that for me, the white merlot is a good compromise. White Zin being too light, as to not have much flavor and the true merlot being too strong for my taste. I hesitated to comment for this exact reason. "GOOD" wine is always going to be a matter of opinion.

As for my favorite...my friend has a selection of his own creation that is without equal, but you'll never see it on any store shelf.  ;D
Title: Re: Wine Suggestions
Post by: fightingquaker13 on March 10, 2010, 05:12:54 PM
+10. I went through a (thankfully) brief "wine/beer snob" phase. It was part of being 22-23 and thinking I had to serve my guests the good stuff to be mature. ::) Then I realized that the best wine is the one you like. Mad dog or a $200 a bottle Bordeaux, either is good. The only opinion that matters is the person drinking it. I do believe you owe it to yourself to try stuff outside of your comfort zone to expand your horizons. The same is true of food, books, music, movies and people. Still, if you like it, its good enough for me, and pity anyone that thinks otherwise.
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Title: Re: Wine Suggestions
Post by: twyacht on March 10, 2010, 06:49:42 PM
Wish I would have caught this earlier, (worked late).

OK. Wife and I are HUGE wino's folks, and have been for years and years.  We go to local tastings, and drink a glass or two almost everyday.

I've had expensive wines that suck, and $10.00 bottles that are fantastic. First, forget the grocery store. Yeah there are some good wines there, but the better price and variety, will be found at the liquor/wine/package store.

Short list. Merlot's are very 90's, 1994, 97, 99, were the best years of that decade. Especially 94, 97.

Either way, I don't drink French wine at all, 90% Kalifornia, 10% Spain, Chile, or Argentina, Australia.
McManus Syrah, Fantastic not to heavy, Ca. wine. ($10)
Gascon Malbec, Amazing wine Argentina $(10)
Newton Carmenere, blend of Ca. wines very soft and flavorful ($20). this one is awesome.
Spanish Quarter Cabernet and Tempranillo, Spain, ($10), really good.
Altos Malbec, Chile ($10). great all around wine.

Greg Norman Shiraz/Cab, ($14),...very good with food.
Rosemount Shiraz, $(10), excellent and always has been.

St. Francis Merlot, Ca.,,,,,,fantastic..... ($15), the 1997 vintage are now close to $100, (in 97, they were $12),  I bought a case back than, drank it like Glock Kool-Aid and now wish I would have put some back....

Lots of great wines out there without breaking the bank. I would love to drink Caymus, Silver Oak, Robert Foley, or Joseph Phelps, everyday, but that will happen AFTER I win the lottery....

Just some suggestions, on reds, don't get me started on whites,.. ::) My wife's nickname is Chardcore.... ;D (for Chardonnay addict)....

I'm going to go to wine chiller right now....... 8)
Title: Re: Wine Suggestions
Post by: Timothy on March 10, 2010, 06:59:47 PM
You're not too late Tom, I've not gotten to the packy yet.

I'll be stopping on the way home tomorrow, we have a huge one right near my shop.  It'll be pretty weird since I've not bought alcohol in nearly 17 years.

Thanks again.  I didn't think I knew any sommeliers....   ;)
Title: Re: Wine Suggestions
Post by: twyacht on March 10, 2010, 07:12:12 PM
You're not too late Tom, I've not gotten to the packy yet.

I'll be stopping on the way home tomorrow, we have a huge one right near my shop.  It'll be pretty weird since I've not bought alcohol in nearly 17 years.

Thanks again.  I didn't think I knew any sommeliers....   ;)

What the hell did you call me??? 8)

I simply don't do the fashionable wine "lingo" with aromatic blackberry finish and subtle overtones of pepper and tannins,...(blank) that.....

Simple translation:

Wines have a front, middle, and a back. Kinda like a roller coaster ride.....

Front: The flavor usually, fruit, berries.. initially that you taste first.
Middle, A decent wine, regardless of price, should feel soft to the tongue palate,...not bitter.
Back, When you swallow, it should not burn the back of your throat.

I also look for wine with an alcohol content minimum 13.5%, the sugars ferment better, and flavor is better not at the headache level of 12.5% or lower.....

Enjoy. Easters coming, I don't need an excuse, but it's good holiday for a good wine with Easter Dinner...

and homemade Deviled Eggs. ::)
Title: Re: Wine Suggestions
Post by: mosbear on March 10, 2010, 07:39:45 PM
Stay away from the current year production. Wine is like a good trigger gets better with time. Two, three year old reds will have much smoother palate. The best bet is to ask the store manager which wine sells better.
Title: Re: Wine Suggestions
Post by: ericire12 on March 10, 2010, 09:19:52 PM
What the hell did you call me??? 8)


A wino!


"Why do we drink...."
Title: Re: Wine Suggestions
Post by: alfsauve on March 11, 2010, 05:35:31 AM
I dont think he was asking for "cooking wines" ;D

Ah, but I've been accused of being half-baked, so cooking wines work well with me.
Title: Re: Wine Suggestions
Post by: Timothy on March 11, 2010, 05:44:42 AM
Ah, but I've been accused of being half-baked, so cooking wines work well with me.

They say that you should never cook with a wine you wouldn't drink.   ;)
Title: Re: Wine Suggestions
Post by: philw on March 11, 2010, 06:15:58 AM
stay away from the goon sacks  (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Goon%20sack)


I am very lucky  I have a winery about 3 minute drive away

I am about 20 minutes to the Barossa Valley ( takes me an hour to get to work )   and also have McLaren Vale  about an hour and a half 

these are some of the best wine regions in Australia

I just don't know what we send over,   the other issue is they would be bulk wines  and not the little ones like we get

2 of my favourites are http://www.langmeilwinery.com.au/  and http://www.foxcreekwines.com/ ( have a lot more I like as well  )
the Mrs normally has Sauvignon Blanc    and I don't mind them   we are just getting in to Shiraz's
Title: Re: Wine Suggestions
Post by: ellis4538 on March 11, 2010, 07:00:49 AM
Bali-Hai or Ripple for me!

JMHO

Richard
Title: Re: Wine Suggestions
Post by: Timothy on March 11, 2010, 07:14:34 AM
Bali-Hai or Ripple for me!

JMHO

Richard

I remember back in Junior High, a few quarts of Welches grape juice, a package of yeast and a warm garage attic!   ;D

Went down a lot easier than it came back up!   :P   ;D
Title: Re: Wine Suggestions
Post by: shooter32 on March 11, 2010, 09:00:12 AM
I remember back in Junior High, a few quarts of Welches grape juice, a package of yeast and a warm garage attic!   ;D

Went down a lot easier than it came back up!   :P   ;D

Kind a like... Boones Farm Tickle Pink or MD 20/20  :-X
Title: Re: Wine Suggestions
Post by: fightingquaker13 on March 11, 2010, 10:53:20 AM
Speaking of high school, let us never forget the "Purple Jesus". One five gallon bucket, halved oranges, ice, grape kool-aid and Everclear. God, I think I can still taste the morning after hairy tongue. ;D
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Title: Re: Wine Suggestions
Post by: Timothy on March 11, 2010, 11:22:07 AM
Speaking of high school, let us never forget the "Purple Jesus". One five gallon bucket, halved oranges, ice, grape kool-aid and Everclear. God, I think I can still taste the morning after hairy tongue. ;D
FQ13

I just had a flashback of the beaches of Truman Annex, Key Waste, FL.....belladonna leaves from Hemmingways front yard and fuzzy memories of a few lost days.  Darn, some of those I wish I could get back

the Everclear fruity punch on the veranda of the Enlisted Club, not so much....

 ;D