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Member Section => Tactical Rifle & Carbine => Topic started by: billt on March 10, 2010, 01:35:49 PM
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When you look at an AK-47, how many know you are actually looking at the piston that is in line with the bolt handle? The cartridge ejects up from the bottom, ("Basement"), of the weapon. When compared to the AR-15, along with many other weapons, this seems backward. One of the many different features of the AK-47. When you really examine it, you wonder how the empty case clears the ejection port. It almost seems too high. Kalashnikov was definitely thinking! Bill T.
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And then he took it and flipped it upside down to make the PK machine gun he developed. ;)
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Maybe, in the dirt, snow, mud, sand, heavily fouled, crappy ammo world, that the AK's thrive in, this was a better design. Kalishnakov was a tank guy, small space, hot, loud, dirty, etc,....every move had a purpose, every effort had to be simple, deliberate, yet intentional.
I would love to see some slow mo footage of the AK firing, and cycling. Thanks billt, if you ever want to get rid of one of your 138 AK's just let me know. ;D
I just have my Saiga AK, but would always pay a fair price for another... ;)
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definitley one of the best gun "smiths"? or is it creator? whatever. right behind Browning, and Stoner is a close 3rd.
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When a design contest will get off the Russian front? People get inspired. ;D I still put Browming first as he designed three guns for the ages, the 1911, the M2 and the Hi-power as well as a bunch of good ones like the squareback. Still, when it comes to the effects of one design on military history, Kalishnikov is right up there with Shrapnel (and yes that was the man's name who invented AP cannon balls), when it comes to changing the face of warfare.
FQ13
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More then just 3
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I would love to see some slow mo footage of the AK firing, and cycling.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sNDTdKQNVU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeeeFxA_9nA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3X3O6wrKCBM&NR=1
These videos both show slow motion, full auto fire of an AK-47. One has the cover removed. You can see how the empty case more or less bounces off the op-rod, and out the ejection port. It's amazing how much the whole weapon flexes during firing. Bill T.
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I knew that, but I've operated an AK a few times...... ;D It's one of my dad's 3 favorite rifles.
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These videos both show slow motion, full auto fire of an AK-47. One has the cover removed. You can see how the empty case more or less bounces off the op-rod, and out the ejection port. It's amazing how much the whole weapon flexes during firing. Bill T.
Thank you billt, that was very interesting to watch from that perspective. What a "loose" rifle. I knew they were loose, but what a simple motion through the cycle.
I guess thats why they just work. Throw a handful of sand, etc,... in the action, and it will still work.
Military Channel, covered the top 10 combat rifles of all time, the AK was #1.
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Thats why Rich Vernola said if the world was coming to an end he wanted a AK47. I agree with that totally.
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I've seen the videos. I'll take an AR/M16 first, and for full auto, give me a rifle that can hit the same county more than once. Having said that, I've built up two AK47s, and they both are fine for the first shot. After that, the accuracy falls off in rapid fire. The 5.56 is accurate, but the 7.62x39 will go through stuff the 5.56 will not. More ammo with less weight with 5.56, more pounding with the 7.62.
So, what's the mission?
Apples and oranges.
Heck, for CQB, give me a shotgun.
Jeff
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For CQB work I want an AK47,mini red dot, and a glock 20 as back up.
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I am with you Mauserman ak (saiga) and glock 20 can't go wrong. always good to have the saiga S12 with a 20 round drum of 12 gauge slugs handy. Now if you run out of 7.62 you can always pick your trusty Saiga .223 and keep on stroking. Heck all three rifles can probably be had for the price of one well dressed AR. things that make you say hmmmmm.
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For one ar you can buy the SKS and enough ammo to keep me happy for awhile.
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And you can always split the difference, AK vs SKS, I do like Sks, and am looking for the AK I sold many moons ago, until then.
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And you can always split the difference, AK vs SKS, I do like Sks, and am looking for the AK I sold many moons ago, until then.
So, M25, where do you pick up an SKS with a drum mag?
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Its an Sks that takes AK mags, including the 75 rd drums. Rifles made originally this way do not have the stripper clip guide..
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Its an Sks that takes AK mags, including the 75 rd drums. Rifles made originally this way do not have the stripper clip guide..
Isn't there some after market stuff to change the regular SKS from a fixed magazine to removable for this purpose?