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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: graywolf on March 21, 2010, 10:18:27 PM
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Another chapter has been written this evening with the passage in the House of Representatives of ObamaCare. Many Democratic representatives who gave the "impression" that they were going to vote the will of their constituents or their personal beliefs caved in to pressure from party leaders and the administration. The threats ranged from no support from the party in the November elections to no appointments for key sub-committees or chairmanships or not "getting plum office space". For Bart Stupak of Michigan, the Great Car Salesman of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue promised him an executive order which can be withdrawn anytime without notice in order to get his vote. As it turned out, it was the deciding factor in the outcome. Never in the history of our country have so many been against an issue and voiced their concerns only to be totally ignored by our elected officials. This will be only the first of many I'm afraid. Next, will be immigration reform followed by Cap and Trade. The Constitution became a little more tramped on today. Kinda makes me want to march on Washington, D.C. on April 19, the anniversary of the beginning of the American Revolution!
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I'm waiting for the next Patrick Henry to step up and say to the fraud sitting in the White House, " You have 24 hours to resign or you will be resigned."
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A lot of us are just waiting for a spark that brings out a clear leader, like that other April morning.
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A lot of us are just waiting for a spark that brings out a clear leader, like that other April morning.
Tom
You know I like, well ,respect you ;D But I hope you're not reffering to April 4th 1968. I assume you're not, but please clarify for those who don't know and respect you, because otherwise, some understandable but unfortunate misinterpretations could be made and we really don't need that.
Peace
FQ13
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It is my understanding that existing law cannot be changed by executive order, if it can then you can throw congress and the supreme court out the window because we now have a dictatorship in charge. Cry for America. :'(
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Tom
You know I like, well ,respect you ;D But I hope you're not reffering to April 4th 1968. I assume you're not, but please clarify for those who don't know and respect you, because otherwise, some understandable but unfortunate misinterpretations could be made and we really don't need that.
Peace
FQ13
FQ,
With Tom's encyclopedic knowledge of history, it is safe to say that he assumes no one would ever think that, since MLK was assassinated in the early evening....
I have broken bread with Tom, and I can honestly say that I have never had even a trace of a feeling he has any racist bent.....
You jumped the gun here bud....
Regards,
Scott
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FQ, there are times your "intellect" makes you just a drooling, babbling moron. That other April morn, as in the OP, is April 19.
And although I am prepared to deal with this at the ballot box, others may not. At this point, after last night's betrayal of the US Constitution, who the hell are you to say that they are wrong? Stay focused on the real problem here.
BTTT - most of the Revolutionary War leaders rose to the surface after things got started. There were no real movement leaders on April 18th, other than the militia leaders and a handful of Patriots who made sure that word went out. Once the smoke cleared at Concord and Lexington, and the route back to Boston where the Patriots sniped the hell out of the retreating Regulars.
"Parliament" has passed something akin to the Tax Stamp Act. What are Patriots - real and faux "libertarian" ones - going to do about it?
PS: Stupak was a fool to believe that a$$hole in the White House. May he see the error of his ways in his next election.
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In the great struggle against England, many of those supporters lost everything they owned. Will our tipping point be before or after the government takes it....or will we tip at all in this generation?
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From today's Day by Day -
(http://www.daybydaycartoon.com/032210.jpg)
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From MB's blog last night . . .
http://michaelbane.blogspot.com/2010/03/sad-night-for-america.html (http://michaelbane.blogspot.com/2010/03/sad-night-for-america.html)
"So this is how liberty dies: with thunderous applause."
Padmé Amidala (Natalie Portman)
Star Wars: Episode III, Revenge of the Sith
And then there is this picture from the news wires (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/03/21/house-leaders-make-impassioned-pleas-final-health-care-vote/ (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/03/21/house-leaders-make-impassioned-pleas-final-health-care-vote/)
(http://www.foxnews.com/images/root_images/happipelosi_20100322_070544.jpg)
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FQ, there are times your "intellect" .................
Geoff not to chastise you, but you are making an assumption here.
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It is obvious the path that needs to be taken & the sooner the better. Yes, we may lose all, but the difference is - it is our choice rather than 'their' choice. Do not just sit around wringing your hands as you have been - do something!!!
....These are the times that try men's souls...... (at least those that have a non-blackened soul left!!!!) <----- no, not a racial comment for you godless, bleeding heart libs out there.
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"Saddle up... Lock n Load" Data (Brent Spiner) Star Trek: Insurrection
Sorry I just woke up and that was the first thought that went through my head. After last night my blood pressure is out of wack and I am seriously thinking that elections to these people don't matter. They knew by signing this bill their ass was out come November, yet they still signed on. To me that speaks volumes. The Libs know that at this point the people are going to go to the ballot box with a list of traitors and crooks and end their parade. The problem is people like Obama and Reid know that money can cure a lot of ailments. So what it comes down to here is not all that different than radical Islam. People who kill by blowing themselves up. They know they are going to die but they strike anyway. And people say the liberalism isn't a religion? These morons will continue to push this socialist bulls*** till someone takes their ability to do so. I don't think any supreme court action will stop this abomination. Obama and his minions don't care about what the constitution says or what the rule of law dictates. They will continue to spit in the face of the American People until they are removed.
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Geoff not to chastise you, but you are making an assumption here.
Ken, that's why "intellect" is in quotes . . .
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Tom
You know I like, well ,respect you ;D But I hope you're not reffering to April 4th 1968. I assume you're not, but please clarify for those who don't know and respect you, because otherwise, some understandable but unfortunate misinterpretations could be made and we really don't need that.
Peace
FQ13
Well, Your college time is showing.
Actually, I was referring to April 19 1775.
You know, Lexington, Concord, Liberty, all that stuff the communists don't teach any more.
The only ones who could draw "misinterpretations" would be history deprived, PC sensitive liberals.
However this does NOT mean that I don't think BO should be stood in front of a wall, because I would in fact volunteer to help apply the "Maximilian treatment".
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My apologies Tom. I just thought that maybe thsi was a "rope" rant (which if you see my post on the companion thread I'm about to get behind at this point). I screwed up here. Sorry. :-[
FQ13
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Rope, quieter and Cheaper than bullets.
Remember,Reusable and biodegradable.
Rope, It's not just for horse thieves any more.
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Ladies and gentlemen, this ride could be a little bumpie...
My anger and disdain for our government has risen to such a point I am speechless. I cannot find the works to express my anger!
One of the biggest issues I have is now IRS is Obama's Healthcare gestapo - the enforcement arm of ObamaCare.
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Now we know why the IRS was buying all those shotguns...
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"Saddle up... Lock n Load" Data (Brent Spiner) Star Trek: Insurrection
Sorry I just woke up and that was the first thought that went through my head. After last night my blood pressure is out of wack and I am seriously thinking that elections to these people don't matter. They knew by signing this bill their ass was out come November, yet they still signed on. To me that speaks volumes. The Libs know that at this point the people are going to go to the ballot box with a list of traitors and crooks and end their parade. The problem is people like Obama and Reid know that money can cure a lot of ailments. So what it comes down to here is not all that different than radical Islam. People who kill by blowing themselves up. They know they are going to die but they strike anyway. And people say the liberalism isn't a religion? These morons will continue to push this socialist bulls*** till someone takes their ability to do so. I don't think any supreme court action will stop this abomination. Obama and his minions don't care about what the constitution says or what the rule of law dictates. They will continue to spit in the face of the American People until they are removed.
Unfortunately, the majority of "John and Suzy Voters" won't do a bloody thing about it in Nov. It will have become ancient history in a month and there will be some other bright shiny object distracting them from voting out thier "duly elected representative" that sold them down the river. Sure a few will lose seats but most of the Dems anyway tend to come from big enough districts in densely populated areas that will ALWAYS vote for someone who'll get the government to do everything for them instead of doing for themselves. It's part of the reason we're in this mess to begin with. Look at DC's City Council. They re-elect Marion Barry every single time and he's been CONVICTED of multiple drug offenses. He was just implicated again, of course it was "his girlfriend's drugs" this time. ::)
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jnevis,
I would tend to agree with you that people will forget about this before November if I thought this was going to be the end of the political shenanigans. I believe that this vote was the beginning rather than the end. I fear they are now embolden by this constitutional crisis they have begun. Remember, there is still immigration/amnesty, cap and tax, and who knows what else they will try.
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As the T shirt says..."Give Me Liberty..Or I'll Get Up and Get It Myself".