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Member Section => Defense and Tactics => Topic started by: sksmedic on March 23, 2010, 01:28:11 PM
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Hello all, I am a huge fan of the Downrange family and was turned on to Ruger's new line of ccw guns. I work full time as a paramedic somewhere in the Northwest US. Over the past few years I have noticed that my town has gotten a lot rougher and downright scary at times. I have always been a supporter of the concealed carry movement and do so full time. While off duty I normally carry a comander size 1911 or a G-27. The problem I ran into is that it is against the rules at work. My employer issued body armor to us but won't let us carry. I have fought hard to get this changed but refuse to get injured or even killed while management drags their feet. Given the nature of my work I needed a gun that was very light and very concealable. Something that could hide out in a front or side bdu pocket and not alarm management or the general public. I know it isn't the same as carrying a full size 45, but the pocket pistol you have on you is better than the fullsize you left at home...
I made the decision to purchase a Ruger LCP. It was amazing... I no longer felt totally naked at work. I carried it religously at work and shot it often. I was amazed at the combat accuracy. This gun is controlable and able to get hits on target quickly. I only practiced with it from 1-7 yards as that is the distance of most shootings. If they are any farther away than that my ass is running. My wife is a paramedic at the same company and I had her start practicing with the LCP. I eventually gave it to her and it is now her full time work gun. We both feel better that she has it on her.
This gave me an excuse to get another gun. I decided to try the LCR and was once again amazed. I have to admit that i was a little concerned about the polymer frame but after firing some speer gold dot +p through it, I felt a lot better. Unlike traditional snub nose revolvers, this one does not kick your butt. The combination of polymer frame and Hogue grip make it very pleasurable to shoot. Combat accuracy is also pretty decent.
Both pistols have very smoothe edges and are not likely to snag on clothing. These guns are also very affordable. As I mentioned above, these pistols are not meant to replace the everyday ccw pistol. I see these as the guns you carry when you need deep concealment. I would much rather have a pocket pistol than no pistol at all.
Since I started my concealed carry at work crusade, 50% of my co workers have purchased LCP's or similar and carry religously on the job. Management still drags their feet, but the company medical director is on our side. The local pd and sherrif's dept also support ccw's for EMS and Fire .
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Am retired and carry an LCP myself. I used to work for the State of Ohio Dept of Trans. and could not have a gun in my car or on my person so I know how it feels. Hope it works out that you and/or your wife never need your CCW but... Also hope they change policy and make it OK.
Stay Safe,
Richard
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Just be careful, the fewer people that know the better.
If I'm caught carrying on my employers property, it's a termination offense. It's probably not legal for them to do so but that's the corporate policy today. I can't even leave it in my car during the day. I'm always armed with something, just not always a firearm.
Be safe...
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I just picked up a LCP and started carrying it as well. I'm very impressed and have been carrying it every day, most days as a back-up to my regular carry gun. It's actually easier to carry and conceal than a spare mag for my Glock 21. Like the OP stated it is a very accurate 7 yard gun and loaded with powerball I'm pretty confident that it will do the job if needed. It's a great gun to carry in places where you normally wouldn't carry like the pocket of your gym shorts or trunks by the pool or to church etc. I'm using a Don Hume pocket holster and it's easy just to throw it in your pocket to walk out to the mailbox.
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I used to work for a place that had a no weapons policy. We weren't even supposed to carry a knife. I DID, and Used the knife like I would anywhere else, and no one cared, but it was against the rules. The place was in a terrible neighborhood. So I carried my dad's Kel-tec, either the .32, or the .380. I now have a S&W J-Frame that I carry. I carry it in the pocket because I can't conceal any of my other pistols any other way with a tucked in shirt.
bafsu, I do carry to church like I would anywhere else. BUT, It's also legal to do in my state.
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All of a sudden (well, maybe not so sudden) I carry 4 pistols when I am out.
I started to carry a Glock 21 in a Smart Carry for my main weapon. I felt a need for a backup as is not uncommon, but I went with a Glock 23 IWB on my strong (right) side.
The 23 would be quicker to get into action.
When the LCP came out I got one and carried it in my left pocket (jacket or pants) in a Nemesis. I found I tended to keep my hand on it whenever it would not look out of place, which is almost never.
I like the feel of having it so readily available I missed it when I needed to carry things in my left hand. I ended up getting a second LCP which I carry the same way in my right pocket.
So now I have a main carry, a backup carry and two last ditch carries....
Funny thing is that due to the nature of an attack, it will be one of the LCPs which will be mostly likely the first weapon presented.
If there is a bit more time, then the Glock 23 can be reached and if there is still a bit more time, the 21 is up...
Jokingly, I would like recommendations on if I should carry two spare magazines for each gun or if one would be sufficient?
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Solus, I would carry one spare for each. I carry a spare mag for my LCP in a knife pouch...doesn't look out of place! On the other hand a "New York" reload...drawing a second gun is usually faster than a normal reload.
Richard
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The only thing I carry is my KelTek P3AT with a spare mag in a cell phone holder. Works great.
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Yeh Haz but their ain't no crime in Florida.....just OLD PEOPLE and college kids that go home after Spring Break. LOL
Richard
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Yeh Haz but their ain't no crime in Florida.....just OLD PEOPLE and college kids that go home after Spring Break. LOL
Richard
+ everyone is wearing a speedo
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All of a sudden (well, maybe not so sudden) I carry 4 pistols when I am out.
I started to carry a Glock 21 in a Smart Carry for my main weapon. I felt a need for a backup as is not uncommon, but I went with a Glock 21 IWB on my strong (right) side.
The 23 would be quicker to get into action.
When the LCP came out I got one and carried it in my left pocket (jacket or pants) in a Nemesis. I found I tended to keep my hand on it whenever it would not look out of place, which is almost never.
I like the feel of having it so readily available I missed it when I needed to carry things in my left hand. I ended up getting a second LCP which I carry the same way in my right pocket.
So now I have a main carry, a backup carry and two last ditch carries....
Funny thing is that do to the nature of an attack, it will be one of the LCPs which will be mostly likely the first weapon presented.
If there is a bit more time, then the Glock 23 can be reached and if there is still a bit more time, the 21 is up...
Jokingly, I would like recommendations on if I should carry two spare magazines for each gun or if one would be sufficient?
If you need spare ammo with all that, then You need to find another set of hangouts. ;D I noticed with my G30 in a Smartcarry, I do have to carry a G21 mag to break up the outline of the top of the slide.
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I started carrying a LCP with a CT laser a couple of weeks ago. It is now the gun I carry most of the time because of the convenience and conceal-ability of the gun. That being said, I would rather carry a big gun if possible but that is not always practical.
The LCP is not the gun to take to a 25 yard shooting competition but, of course, it was not intended to be a target gun. It is a close range shooter. I find it very accurate, make that combat accurate. You just have to keep in mind that it is a gun with a specific application. If you need it to be something other than what it was intended you will be disappointed.
Ammo availability is not an issue. I have 100 target rounds and 50 defensive rounds or so in my cache which is not much. Then again I'm not shooting in competition so I don't need a lot on hand. Plus shops around here have target ammo in stock if I need more. Defensive .380 ammo availability is more scarce but I have enough for the moment.
I would and do recommend the LCP for pocket carry.
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I gotta say my LCPs are always everyday guns. On quick trips around the little town I live in, an LCP is the primary; otherwise, it changes over to my left pocket and becomes the secondary gun. I also like the LCRs...I never thought I'd think of an S&W Airweight J-Frame as heavy!
Michael B
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I gotta say my LCPs are always everyday guns. On quick trips around the little town I live in, an LCP is the primary; otherwise, it changes over to my left pocket and becomes the secondary gun. I also like the LCRs...I never thought I'd think of an S&W Airweight J-Frame as heavy!
Michael B
Now we can see it.
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Thanks, now I can read it!
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He was writing in Camo. ;D
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He was writing in Camo. ;D
CCW.....Concealed Commentary Writing....we're just not tactical enough to read it..... :D
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I have an LCP and it's the gun I carry the most especially during the warm weather months.
I was out of town and stopped at a leather shop where I purchased a small cell phone case (leather with metal clips) for my phone. They were only $7.99 + tax so I purchased two so I would have a spare.
One day I took my extra one and found that it holds my 2 LCP backup mags perfectly when they are inserted upside down with one facing forward and one facing backwards.
I've been carrying it everywhere and no one has noticed the tips of the Crtical Defense ammo that is exposed at the bottom of the phone case or the fact that it looks like I'm carrying 2 cell phones. At least, if they have no one has commented on it thus far.
Maybe I should grab a bunch of them and put them on ebay. I could advertise them as tactical stealth mag carriers for the LCP!
;D
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I have an LCP and it's the gun I carry the most especially during the warm weather months.
I was out of town and stopped at a leather shop where I purchased a small cell phone case (leather with metal clips) for my phone. They were only $7.99 + tax so I purchased two so I would have a spare.
One day I took my extra one and found that it holds my 2 LCP backup mags perfectly when they are inserted upside down with one facing forward and one facing backwards.
I've been carrying it everywhere and no one has noticed the tips of the Crtical Defense ammo that is exposed at the bottom of the phone case or the fact that it looks like I'm carrying 2 cell phones. At least, if they have no one has commented on it thus far.
Maybe I should grab a bunch of them and put them on ebay. I could advertise them as tactical stealth mag carriers for the LCP!
;D
Are they black?
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Are they black?
Yes they are.