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Title: 's does not a plural make
Post by: BAC on March 25, 2010, 08:43:08 AM
To all DRTV forum members:

I am reading more and more of your posts in which " 's " is being used to make words plural.  I don't know how this started, but it is sweeping the nation, and IT IS WRONG!!!!!!! in almost every instance.

Below I've linked to a page that contains the correct rules for plural noun forms.  I suggest some of you (and you know who you are) read it.  I'm not trying to be mean, I'm trying to help.

http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/GRAMMAR/plurals.htm (http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/GRAMMAR/plurals.htm)

Thank you for your time.
Title: Re: 's does not a plural make
Post by: crusader rabbit on March 25, 2010, 09:09:46 AM
To all DRTV forum members:

I am reading more and more of your posts in which " 's " is being used to make words plural.  I don't know how this started, but it is sweeping the nation, and IT IS WRONG!!!!!!! in almost every instance.

Below I've linked to a page that contains the correct rules for plural noun forms.  I suggest some of you (and you know who you are) read it.  I'm not trying to be mean, I'm trying to help.

http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/GRAMMAR/plurals.htm (http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/GRAMMAR/plurals.htm)

Thank you for your time.


Yeah...  And while we're at it, get a handle on there, their, and they're. 
Title: Re: 's does not a plural make
Post by: MikeBjerum on March 25, 2010, 09:17:16 AM

Yeah...  And while we're at it, get a handle on there, their, and they're. 

Thar thar big fella.  Remember, most of us are under the influance of something when we are typing  ;)
Title: Re: 's does not a plural make
Post by: Solus on March 25, 2010, 09:37:48 AM
We shouldn't forget the correct usage of 'amount' and 'number' when referring to discrete and continuous nouns either  :D :D
Title: Re: 's does not a plural make
Post by: Bic on March 25, 2010, 10:50:19 AM
Equal Rights for All Punctuation!!

The "Oxford Comma", reviled, disgraced, vilified, slighted, and slandered for many years, has it's place in our society.
Title: Re: 's does not a plural make
Post by: pequin06 on March 25, 2010, 12:27:01 PM
Thar thar big fella.  Remember, most of us are under the influance of something when we are typing  ;)

Tru Dat!
Title: Re: 's does not a plural make
Post by: Ranger Dave on March 25, 2010, 12:41:44 PM
Thanks for the reminder
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add where needed
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 's does not a plural make
Post by: scott.ballard on March 25, 2010, 12:53:24 PM
Their They're,  yous shoodint git to ryled upp overn dis sun.

peeple's is jus peeple's

supposebly thisn ting are a mes o mute complaint's.

Irregardless uv gotta jus aksept dat peeple's is gittin dummer cuz ov textin an all.  Its'sa whole nuther problem's fer us.

Seriously,  I vote to eliminate the phrase, "and what not."
Title: Re: 's does not a plural make
Post by: BAC on March 25, 2010, 01:08:00 PM
Their They're,  yous shoodint git to ryled upp overn dis sun.

peeple's is jus peeple's

supposebly thisn ting are a mes o mute complaint's.

Irregardless uv gotta jus aksept dat peeple's is gittin dummer cuz ov textin an all.  Its'sa whole nuther problem's fer us.

Seriously,  I vote to eliminate the phrase, "and what not."

Can we add "It is what it is" and "At the end of the day" to that list?



Title: Re: 's does not a plural make
Post by: Hazcat on March 25, 2010, 01:11:36 PM
and "at this point in time'....the word is NOW!
Title: Re: 's does not a plural make
Post by: scott.ballard on March 25, 2010, 01:16:49 PM
and "at this point in time'....the word is NOW!

Very True.  Because by the time you get those words out, this has become that. What about right now...or now...or now...or now?
Title: Re: 's does not a plural make
Post by: jaybet on March 25, 2010, 01:21:12 PM
Perfect opportunity to bring up my all time favorite pet peeves.... ath-a-lete and disorien-tated. Puh-leeze!
Title: Re: 's does not a plural make
Post by: BAC on March 25, 2010, 01:23:13 PM
Perfect opportunity to bring up my all time favorite pet peeves.... ath-a-lete and disorien-tated. Puh-leeze!


I'll see you and raise with supposebly.
Title: Re: 's does not a plural make
Post by: Hazcat on March 25, 2010, 01:40:09 PM
of-Ten
Title: Re: 's does not a plural make
Post by: JC5123 on March 25, 2010, 01:54:59 PM
To elaborate on M58's (correct use of 's noting possession not plurality) comments. If you are that concerned about grammar, you are on the wrong forum. Here we have command of weapons usage. Word usage, not so much. Remember most of us were publicly edumacated.  ;D
Title: Re: 's does not a plural make
Post by: scott.ballard on March 25, 2010, 01:57:43 PM
Yadda Yadda Yadda.

This is not The Flintstones!  Finish your thought using actual words.


How about; "in the future."  Of course in the future.  In the past would not be relevant.


"The fact of the matter is..."  In this case, the fact of the matter is used by people who were having trouble meeting the required quantity of words on those word count essays they were forced to write in high school.
Title: Re: 's does not a plural make
Post by: MikeBjerum on March 25, 2010, 02:01:49 PM
To elaborate on M58's (correct use of 's noting possession not plurality) comments. If you are that concerned about grammar, you are on the wrong forum. Here we have command of weapons usage. Word usage, not so much. Remember most of us were publicly edumacated.  ;D

That would be M58s', because it is both plural (multiple randomness) and possessive (mine ... all mine, because no one else would want them)  ;D
Title: Re: 's does not a plural make
Post by: JC5123 on March 25, 2010, 02:17:07 PM
That would be M58s', because it is both plural (multiple randomness) and possessive (mine ... all mine!, because no one else would want them)  ;D

I am a rich and wealthy miser......
Title: Re: 's does not a plural make
Post by: Rob10ring on March 25, 2010, 02:25:19 PM

Yeah...  And while we're at it, get a handle on there, their, and they're. 

We might want to hit to, too and two and compliment/complement while we're at it too. I think this stuff is on the rise because of the casual tone used in email, messaging and social media and the fact that only 30% of U.S. 8th graders can read at grade level.
Title: Re: 's does not a plural make
Post by: Big Frank on March 25, 2010, 03:15:38 PM
Why say "price point" when "price" will do just fine.
Title: Re: 's does not a plural make
Post by: Timothy on March 25, 2010, 03:26:43 PM
"Conversate"......one of the all time most annoying make believe words spoken!
Title: Re: 's does not a plural make
Post by: ericire12 on March 25, 2010, 03:50:44 PM
Never said the folks on this here forum were educated





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All tipoes and misspelings are copi-righted.  Pleeze do not reuse without ritten persimmons   :D
Title: Re: 's does not a plural make
Post by: ericire12 on March 25, 2010, 03:51:44 PM
Why say "price point" when "price" will do just fine.

"Price point" is business jargon



*BTW F-uc-k you and your horse ;D
http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=11618.msg153606#msg153606
Title: Re: 's does not a plural make
Post by: MikeBjerum on March 25, 2010, 04:22:49 PM
I was always taught ... Ok, during my two years of Technical Writing I was taught that jargon was a group of words that have a specific meaning within a given industry, and jargon should never be used outside of the closed setting where it was developed.  However, many people believe that the use of jargon will make them appear smarter and "in the know."

My experience has shown that the two largest users of jargon in everyday conversation are nurses, who want to appear as "good" as doctors," and the media ... no comments necessary I believe.  Ok, add a third - Computer geeks  >:(
Title: Re: 's does not a plural make
Post by: kilopaparomeo on March 25, 2010, 04:50:50 PM
I'll add a couple:

First:  your and you're  are not interchangeable.  One is possessive, one is a contraction

Second: 'nuff said used to be the end-all to any argument...no it isn't.  It just means you don't have enough synapses firing to make a cogent argument

Third:  social justice  (or "fill in the blank" justice).  So such thing...the world isn't fair.  Buckle up buttercup and do the hard work.

Last:  The next snot-nosed kid that says paradigm in a meeting may get a punch in the nose.  It got old quickly when everyone was using it in the 1990's...it is a lame attempt to look smart today.
Title: Re: 's does not a plural make
Post by: MikeBjerum on March 25, 2010, 05:12:55 PM
I'll add a couple:

First:  your and you're  are not interchangeable.  One is possessive, one is a contraction

Second: 'nuff said used to be the end-all to any argument...no it isn't.  It just means you don't have enough synapses firing to make a cogent argument

Third:  social justice  (or "fill in the blank" justice).  So such thing...the world isn't fair.  Buckle up buttercup and do the hard work.

Last:  The next snot-nosed kid that says paradigm in a meeting may get a punch in the nose.  It got old quickly when everyone was using it in the 1990's...it is a lame attempt to look smart today.

You just need to learn to think outside the box ... 'nuff said  ;D
Title: Re: 's does not a plural make
Post by: fullautovalmet76 on March 25, 2010, 06:20:31 PM
Incorrect form:
I like Glocks to/two.

Correct form
I like Glocks too.

About conjunctions:

Title: Re: 's does not a plural make
Post by: ericire12 on March 25, 2010, 06:27:50 PM
I'm not "high speed; low drag" enough to "always wear a full size 1911 even in the shower" . ;D
Title: Re: 's does not a plural make
Post by: Timothy on March 25, 2010, 06:28:52 PM
I get a kick out of using twenty dollar words in meetings and then sit back and wait for one of my illiterate bosses to misuse the word at another time......I work with some real keen minds!   ;)  

It's a little game I play with the weaker minds of those around me!

 ;D
Title: Re: 's does not a plural make
Post by: ericire12 on March 25, 2010, 06:38:52 PM
It's a little game I play with the weaker minds of those around me!

 ;D

DRTV Ranger Jedi
Title: Re: 's does not a plural make
Post by: Timothy on March 25, 2010, 06:51:16 PM
DRTV Ranger Jedi

Who looks more like "Yogi" than "Yoda"... ;D

"Irregardless" of the duplicitous little game I play.....they're never aware of my evil mind games!   8)
Title: Re: 's does not a plural make
Post by: fightingquaker13 on March 25, 2010, 07:24:44 PM
Evil, Timothy and I like it ;D. I agree with  M58 about jargon though. Its dangerous because its useful. Speaking of political philosophy, I can make an argument in one paragraph that would take me a page to make without using it because you can pack a whole lot of words into one or two. Downside? No one without the secret decoder ring can understand you. Thus you wind up wanking off rather than engaging folks. Survey says? Leave the jargon at home and speak plain English unless there is no alternative, and even then, define your terms. As George Orwell once wrote in a literary essay, it is better to throw out all the rules of conventional English than say someting that is gramatically correct and yet incomphrensible.
FQ13
Title: Re: 's does not a plural make
Post by: fightingquaker13 on March 25, 2010, 07:29:40 PM
One other beef, the use of the pacive voice.
 "Mistakes were made"= I F@cked up
I may have "misspoken"= I DID lie like a rug!
When did "misspoke" become an acceptable word once we dropped the code duello?
FQ13
Title: Re: 's does not a plural make
Post by: PegLeg45 on March 25, 2010, 10:32:13 PM
Confusing the proper use of "I" and "me".....happens on TV more than internet...but still a peeve to pet with me.
(As in: "He came over to shoot with Bob and I.")   >:(


As to the jargon....my all-time, most hated word that has been overused by so many is..... Infrastructure.   :-X  :-X
Title: Re: 's does not a plural make
Post by: BAC on March 26, 2010, 06:20:05 AM
Has anyone mentioned its (possessive) vs. it's (it is)?

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Its dangerous because its useful.
Title: Re: 's does not a plural make
Post by: Fatman on March 26, 2010, 06:34:34 AM
My MAJOR pet peeve: the misuse of 'penultimate' - and major writers misuse it all the time.  It does not mean 'the best of the best' or the 'ultimate ultimate'.  What does it mean?

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Main Entry: pen·ul·ti·mate
Pronunciation: \pi-ˈnəl-tə-mət\
Function: adjective
Date: 1677

1 : next to the last <the penultimate chapter of a book>
2 : of or relating to a penult

(A penult is the second to last syllable in a word)

Fer crissake Robert E. Lee was not the 'penultimate Southern General'!   ::)
Title: Re: 's does not a plural make
Post by: BAC on March 26, 2010, 08:04:20 AM
I'm watching Tales of The Gun right now.  The narrator just said "weapondry".
Title: Re: 's does not a plural make
Post by: ericire12 on March 26, 2010, 09:22:03 AM
Mixologist ;)
Title: Re: 's does not a plural make
Post by: BAC on March 26, 2010, 09:32:29 AM
Sign on a gas pump I used last night:  Please prepay in advance.

I normally prepay after pumping.   ;D
Title: Re: 's does not a plural make
Post by: Hazcat on March 26, 2010, 09:51:36 AM
very unique  ;)
Title: Re: 's does not a plural make
Post by: SwoopSJ on March 26, 2010, 04:38:09 PM
Sheesh!  Leave it to a bunch of old men to turn such a petty subject into a 5 page (so far) thread.   ;D

Swoop

I say "old", without apology, because I'm adrift on that boat, two to too.   :D  
Title: Re: 's does not a plural make
Post by: tt11758 on March 26, 2010, 04:49:00 PM
That would be M58s', because it is both plural (multiple randomness) and possessive (mine ... all mine, because no one else would want them)  ;D


Unless by "them" you refer to the contents of the numerous safes in your gun room.  ;D
Title: Re: 's does not a plural make
Post by: Fatman on March 26, 2010, 04:49:36 PM
Well, Swoop, this 'old man' is about to go run around with 18 to 22 yr old coeds.  Out run most of them, to be precise.

Yes, the soccer silly season is upon me, and I'm looking forward to being invited out to drink with them afterward, which happens often.  Most women assume I'm in my mid thirties.  ;)  I of course, politely (and stupidly) beg out.  :'(
Title: Re: 's does not a plural make
Post by: fightingquaker13 on March 26, 2010, 04:50:46 PM
Damn! Y'all are turning this into an "atheletic" event.
FQ13
Title: Re: 's does not a plural make
Post by: Big Frank on March 26, 2010, 04:59:27 PM
I was watching a TV show where they said someone DROWNDED.
Title: Re: 's does not a plural make
Post by: fightingquaker13 on March 26, 2010, 05:01:19 PM
I was watching a TV show where they said someone DROWNDED.
Probably the same one where someone was hung.
FQ13
Title: Re: 's does not a plural make
Post by: MikeBjerum on March 26, 2010, 05:32:52 PM
I was watching a TV show where they said someone DROWNDED.

And your point is ...
Title: Re: 's does not a plural make
Post by: tt11758 on March 26, 2010, 05:48:34 PM
I was watching a TV show where they said someone DROWNDED.


Help, I'm drownding!!!    ;D
Title: Re: 's does not a plural make
Post by: Pathfinder on March 26, 2010, 06:39:41 PM
Unless someone is going to start posting pictures - new pictures - of boobies, BTTT -

My pet peeve is "decimated".

Most ignorati use it to mean devastated or destroyed, when in fact it comes from the Roman army practice of selecting every 10th man for punishment, such as if a legion showed cowardice on the battlefield. Decimating could be flogging, but most likely the punishment was to be beaten to death by your own comrades in the cohort.

That is, every 10th man was physically eliminated from the legion through a nasty and gruesome method of killing.

Oh, BTW, Re: 's does not a plural make - ye's it doe's.
Title: Re: 's does not a plural make
Post by: ericire12 on March 26, 2010, 06:43:45 PM
Unless someone is going to start posting pictures - new pictures - of boobies, BTTT -

+1

And BTW its -----------------> boobie's  ;D
Title: Re: 's does not a plural make
Post by: scott.ballard on March 26, 2010, 08:53:27 PM
Boob's?
Title: Re: 's does not a plural make
Post by: fullautovalmet76 on March 26, 2010, 08:56:55 PM
A pet peeve of mine? The over use or improper use of the word 'awesome':

"Shooting a Ruger 10/22 is an awesome experience." When the word is better used in, "Shooting a full-auto Uzi is an awesome experience."

Not every common, mundane, routine experience one has is LIKE PHUCKING AWESOME (said with my best CA. Valley Girl accent); it is good!  ;)
Title: Re: 's does not a plural make
Post by: fightingquaker13 on March 26, 2010, 09:28:50 PM
A pet peeve of mine? The over use or improper use of the word 'awesome':

"Shooting a Ruger 10/22 is an awesome experience." When the word is better used in, "Shooting a full-auto Uzi is an awesome experience."

Not every common, mundane, routine experience one has is NOT LIKE PHUCKING AWESOME (said with my best CA. Valley Girl accent), it is good!  ;)
The flip side of that is "nice". I ws born, bred and raised an upper middle class, Scotts, Southern Episcopal boy. We are all about the "stiff upper lip". Paris Hilton gave you a BJ in the new Ferarri she just gave you? "It was nice". Spent the night in jail on a DUI and got gang raped? "It was nice, but I would have preffered better company". God bless the South! The land of the polite euphemism.
FQ13 ;D
Title: Re: 's does not a plural make
Post by: fullautovalmet76 on March 26, 2010, 09:34:49 PM
God bless the South! The land of the polite euphemism.
FQ13 ;D

Very true....