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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: Rastus on March 30, 2010, 06:45:00 AM
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I can't believe someone would try to pin such a heinous crime on an honest, hardworking person who just wants to come here and contribute and be a citizen like he deserves to be. There is no reason people from Mexico should not be allowed to be made citizens immediately and be blessed with all the things this great society has to offer in health care, education and other amenities like safety. What a great perspective they can bring to enlighten us by not having been burdened with knowing what the stupid greedy men did in the 1700's---they can actually vote as free thinkers supported by the great literacy they bring with them. Their perspective from centuries of an enlightened society (and societies as Mayan's, etc.) will help us to understand how misled we have been. This has got to be a setup by the Tea Bag group to make those innocent, law-abiding and compassionate future democrats look bad. Wouldn't you say?
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/03/29/illegal-immigrant-suspected-killing-arizona-rancher/ (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/03/29/illegal-immigrant-suspected-killing-arizona-rancher/)
Illegal Immigrant Suspected in Killing of Arizona Rancher
AP
The victim, Robert Krentz, was heard telling his brother "illegal alien" on the radio before he was found shot.
PHOENIX -- A prominent southeast Arizona rancher likely was killed by an illegal immigrant, but there's no evidence to suggest there was any confrontation that led to the shooting, authorities said Monday.
The body of Robert Krentz, 58, was located before midnight Saturday on his 35,000-acre ranch about 35 miles northeast of Douglas after his brother reported that he had lost radio contact with Krentz earlier in the day.
At a news conference Monday, Cochise County Sheriff Larry Dever said Krentz was out checking water line and fencing on the land Krentz's family has ranched since 1907. Krentz had weapons with him in his all-terrain vehicle but didn't use them, according to Dever.
Investigators said Krentz apparently came upon one person when he was shot. Krentz was heard telling his brother "illegal alien" on the radio earlier Saturday, and the area of the killing is a known smuggling corridor, according to authorities.
While Krentz was still in his vehicle, mortally wounded, he managed to drive the ATV away from the scene at a high rate of speed before becoming unconscious. The ATV still had its lights on and the engine running when authorities found it.
Foot tracks were identified and followed approximately 20 miles south to the Mexico border by sheriff's deputies, U.S. Border Patrol trackers and Department of Corrections dog chase teams, authorities said.
The sheriff's office said Krentz's body was transported to the Cochise County Medical Examiner's Office for an autopsy to determine approximate time of death.
So far, there have been no suspects identified and no arrests.
"We are assuming he escaped south into Mexico," Dever said of the shooter.
Dever told a Tucson newspaper that while investigators don't have a motive yet, retaliation has been raised as a possibility. The day before the shooting, the victim's brother, Phil Krentz, reported drug smuggling activity on the ranch to the Border Patrol.
Agents found 290 pounds of marijuana on the ranch and followed tracks to where they found and arrested eight illegal immigrants. All were still in custody when the shooting occurred, the Arizona Daily Star reported.
U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz., whose Congressional district covers the area, issued a statement saying Krentz's killing is a horrible tragedy that deserves a swift and strong response.
"The cold-blooded killing of an Arizona rancher is a sad and sobering reminder of the threats to public safety that exist in our border communities," Giffords said. "It has not yet been determined who committed this atrocity or why, but I know that federal and local authorities are mobilizing every possible resource to locate and apprehend the assailant."
Giffords said if Krentz's killing is connected to drug cartels or smugglers, the federal government must respond appropriately.
"All options should be on the table, including sending more Border Patrol agents to the area and deploying the National Guard," Giffords said.
Arizona Attorney General Terry Goddard said government has a clear responsibility to aid law enforcement resources at all levels along the border.
"I call on our federal and state governments to work together to bolster the law enforcement resources needed to better protect Arizonans living on the border," Goddard said.
Meanwhile, Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer joined U.S. Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., in calling for federal officials to send more National Guard troops to the Mexican border.
"The federal government must do all it can within its power to curb this violence and protect its citizens from criminals coming across the border from Mexico," McCain wrote in a letter to Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, a former Arizona governor.
U.S. Sens. Jeff Bingaman and Tom Udall of New Mexico, along with Rep. Harry Teague, said Napolitano's agency needs to take more security steps and increase the Border Patrol's presence in the Boot Heel of New Mexico.
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And didn't Janet from another planet just tell us the border was more secure now than ever before?
As a former (and maybe someday) rancher, this story made my blood boil. The guy was checking fences and gets whacked, maybe in retaliation as the story says, maybe because he was about to see something no one wanted him to see.
Where did you get that opening quote Rastus? I'd like to send the quote's author out near Douglas on an ATV to check fences, see if he figures out just how "literate" (from the quote) these effing illegals are.
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U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz., whose Congressional district covers the area, issued a statement saying Krentz's killing is a horrible tragedy that deserves a swift and strong response.
Ya, that 'tragedy' is lying directly at your feet! CLOSE THE DAMN BOARDER! DEPORT ILLEGALS! What the %$&! is so hard about that?
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Just a thought.....If you were to come across an armed group that you know isn't supposed to be in this country, would they be considered an invading force? Realistically, that is exactly what we have. A full scale invasion. Isn't it our DUTY to repel such invaders? Of course in our infinite compassion as a CHRISTIAN society we treat most of them as refugees. While most of them are. Many are not. We cannot possibly hope to absorb all of them into our society. The main reason is that they do not want to assimilate. Fine, if you don't want to be an American, GO HOME!
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They are NOT refugees. They are illegal aliens.
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I was at a "Leadership Symposium" for the Navy last week. A representative of Recruiting Command was taking questions from the floor and a person, I think from a Recruiting station even, asked about a waiver for a straight A student that wanted to join but was here illegally. The master Chief didn't even hesitate with a "Not going to happen unless she gets papers to be here LEGALLY. I'm all for bettering yourself and your family but do it the right way. Our government is paying for her to go to school and she'll probably go to college if her grades are that good, with financial aid. She has the potential to do great things but it's all for nothing if she remains illegal.
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None of this has anything to do with immigration. This is an INVASION! Bill T.
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None of this has anything to do with immigration. This is an INVASION! Bill T.
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Wasn't it just a few months ago another rancher was sued by illegals the found on his property because they claimed he used excessive force in dealing with them?
And if I remember correctly, he lost the case?
Looks like we could use a 'Castle Doctrine' that extends to all the property near the border.
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All effected American families need to start a grand jury investigation and class action lawsuit on Janet. She has been told by her bosses to betray this country. I can't believe the Minutemen have disbanded. This chaps my hide.