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Title: 2nd Mexican helicopter sighted in U.S. airspace
Post by: Hazcat on April 02, 2010, 11:36:50 AM
By LYNN BREZOSKY
SAN ANTONIO EXPRESS NEWS
April 2, 2010, 12:10AM

BROWNSVILLE — The U.S. Department of Defense said it was investigating the second sighting within three weeks of a Mexican military helicopter flying in U.S. airspace over rural Zapata County.

“The incident did occur and it's still under investigation,” department spokeswoman Maj. Tanya Bradsher said, confirming that the copter, believed to belong to the Mexican navy, was seen Sunday.

Rick Pauza, a U.S. Customs and Border Protection spokesman, earlier in March confirmed a Mexican military helicopter hovered as long as 20 minutes on March 9 over a residential area near Falcon Lake, a reservoir on the Rio Grande.

He said CBP officials who lived in the neighborhood were among those who saw it.

Pauza said the helicopter crossed back without incident and that once the sighting was reported up the chain of the command “that was the extent of it.”

On Thursday, he said he was not aware that Sunday's reported sighting had been confirmed.

“In general, in situations where there is an actual incursion those situations are reviewed by both the United States and Mexico. They are taken seriously,” Pauza said.
Agents sent to the scene

Jason Darling, a U.S. Border Patrol spokesman in Laredo, said Border Patrol agents responded to the scene of “a report originating from the community” within a half-hour of receiving it Sunday but did not see the helicopter themselves.

He said the copter was reported near U.S. 83 between Zapata and Laredo.

Zapata County Sheriff Sigifredo Gonzalez said Sunday's sighting was the second one confirmed, but several others were reported to him during the past two weeks that he couldn't be sure enough about to forward to the federal government.

Gonzalez said the unconfirmed incursions occurred on March 20 and on Monday and Tuesday and were reported to him by a deputy, a local news reporter, and a federal officer who the sheriff said has since been muzzled by higher-ups.

“I don't want to get him involved because it sounds like they're going to fire him for saying the truth,” Gonzalez said of the officer.
Dismissed, at first

But Gonzalez said he didn't pass along those reports to federal officials because he wasn't sure about them.

He said federal officials initially rebuffed his initial reports of the March 9 and Sunday sightings, which he made to the Joint Operations Intelligence Center because he had photos from witnesses and a pretty good idea that they were Mexican military operations.

When Gonzalez told the officials he had photos, however, they blamed their lack of knowledge of it on faulty radar, he said.

Then other federal officials confirmed the incidents to reporters.

“It's becoming more common now every day,” he said. “My problem is we find these things out through our media instead of our government. It goes to show how incompetent I guess our government is.”

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/6939900.html

Bold is mine

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Title: Re: 2nd Mexican helicopter sighted in U.S. airspace
Post by: JC5123 on April 02, 2010, 12:21:46 PM
Let's just prove this the same way the Commies proved the existence of the U2. And with a chopper it's easy. It's called RPG.
Title: Re: 2nd Mexican helicopter sighted in U.S. airspace
Post by: rojawe on April 02, 2010, 01:21:53 PM
http://www.borderinvasionpics.com/Invasion.html
Title: Re: 2nd Mexican helicopter sighted in U.S. airspace
Post by: PegLeg45 on April 02, 2010, 01:57:45 PM
Let's just prove this the same way the Commies proved the existence of the U2. And with a chopper it's easy. It's called RPG.

Or a good ol' boy and a well aimed '06.
Title: Re: 2nd Mexican helicopter sighted in U.S. airspace
Post by: Hazcat on April 02, 2010, 02:25:21 PM
Or a good ol' boy and a well aimed '06.

;)
Title: Re: 2nd Mexican helicopter sighted in U.S. airspace
Post by: billt on April 02, 2010, 02:30:07 PM
Even a .22 round into the turbine will do very bad things. When you have parts turning at close to 50,000 RPM, it's amazing how little it takes to make things run amok! A small bird damn near took this one out:   Bill T.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYNpB-8_BSo
Title: Re: 2nd Mexican helicopter sighted in U.S. airspace
Post by: Jackel on April 02, 2010, 10:16:07 PM
maybe their gonna retake texas  ;D
Title: Re: 2nd Mexican helicopter sighted in U.S. airspace
Post by: sledgemeister on April 03, 2010, 02:27:03 AM
How do you tell if its a mexican chopper? Are they shaped like a burito?
Title: Re: 2nd Mexican helicopter sighted in U.S. airspace
Post by: Pathfinder on April 03, 2010, 07:06:17 AM
Or a good ol' boy and a well aimed '06.

Exactly . . . .  8)
Title: Re: 2nd Mexican helicopter sighted in U.S. airspace
Post by: BAC on April 03, 2010, 07:16:26 AM
How do you tell if its a mexican chopper? Are they shaped like a burito?

 ;D ;D They don't fly across the border, but sneak across in the bed of a pickup truck.
Title: Re: 2nd Mexican helicopter sighted in U.S. airspace
Post by: Hazcat on April 03, 2010, 07:38:11 AM
maybe their gonna retake texas  ;D

I'd like to see 'em TRY!  Hell, Billt is just across the line in AZ and he can arm half of Texas by himself! ;)
Title: Re: 2nd Mexican helicopter sighted in U.S. airspace
Post by: crusader rabbit on April 03, 2010, 07:46:59 AM
maybe their gonna retake texas  ;D

A couple of years ago, one of the higher-ups in Mexican politics stated as much.  Don't have the exact quote, but he claimed that the Southwest Territories of AZ, NM, CA and Western TX had all been illegally appropriated by the US and RIGHTFULLY belonged to Mexico.  With apologies to TAB (or maybe because of him?) I'm willing to concede California--Mexico pretty much has that state already.  But the rest of the territories still hold some attraction.
Title: Re: 2nd Mexican helicopter sighted in U.S. airspace
Post by: Rastus on April 03, 2010, 09:08:09 AM
A couple of years ago, one of the higher-ups in Mexican politics stated as much.  Don't have the exact quote, but he claimed that the Southwest Territories of AZ, NM, CA and Western TX had all been illegally appropriated by the US and RIGHTFULLY belonged to Mexico.  With apologies to TAB (or maybe because of him?) I'm willing to concede California--Mexico pretty much has that state already.  But the rest of the territories still hold some attraction.

Does that mean we can get cheap vacations at the beach like in Cancun and Cozumel?
Title: Re: 2nd Mexican helicopter sighted in U.S. airspace
Post by: MikeBjerum on April 03, 2010, 09:13:43 AM
I stand on my beliefs form the last time we discussed this - I'm not calling for armed citizens to start shooting them out of the sky, but I am calling for awareness and defense by citizens if the government does not do something to either stop them or show just cause for their actions.

And in case anyone is wondering, a traveling wetback would face the consequences of trespassing on my property to gain access to this great nation!
Title: Re: 2nd Mexican helicopter sighted in U.S. airspace
Post by: tombogan03884 on April 03, 2010, 11:16:17 AM
A couple of years ago, one of the higher-ups in Mexican politics stated as much.  Don't have the exact quote, but he claimed that the Southwest Territories of AZ, NM, CA and Western TX had all been illegally appropriated by the US and RIGHTFULLY belonged to Mexico.  With apologies to TAB (or maybe because of him?) I'm willing to concede California--Mexico pretty much has that state already.  But the rest of the territories still hold some attraction.

He was pretty much correct, the territory from La. to the Pacific was taken at the point of a bayonet.
BFD, So what ?
Nearly every border in the world was drawn in blood. Every one else seems to get over it what makes the Mexicans any different, it's been 170 years for crying out loud.
I have no problem at all with the idea of "illegal alien safaris".
Title: Re: 2nd Mexican helicopter sighted in U.S. airspace
Post by: PegLeg45 on April 03, 2010, 11:25:04 AM
How do you tell if its a mexican chopper? Are they shaped like a burito?



Sorry........  ;D
Title: Re: 2nd Mexican helicopter sighted in U.S. airspace
Post by: sledgemeister on April 03, 2010, 11:37:18 AM
LOL
I was hoping to see a foot get split, yeah I get synical and nasty when on night shift.  :-X
Title: Re: 2nd Mexican helicopter sighted in U.S. airspace
Post by: twyacht on April 03, 2010, 03:26:18 PM
Looks like little "Timmy" is going to get a "New Gun" for his Birthday!!!!

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/twyacht/sonicblaster.jpg)

No Habla Espanol..... ;)
Title: Re: 2nd Mexican helicopter sighted in U.S. airspace
Post by: Jackel on April 04, 2010, 01:37:18 PM
this could be interesting. thinking what would happen if mexico did "invade" militarily id probably turn out like the Falklands.

they cant attack the US head on and win so i i guess they would do it politically. Claim the US stole it or something. Obama would probably give it to them....

never gonna happen im just thinking out loud.
Title: Re: 2nd Mexican helicopter sighted in U.S. airspace
Post by: jnevis on April 04, 2010, 02:08:29 PM
LOL
I was hoping to see a foot get split, yeah I get synical and nasty when on night shift.  :-X

I expected one or more board popping up and hitting him square in the face myself.
Title: Re: 2nd Mexican helicopter sighted in U.S. airspace
Post by: Solus on April 04, 2010, 03:07:07 PM
I expected one or more board popping up and hitting him square in the face myself.

He is using a double bladed axe...I expected a rebound to the forehead....
Title: Re: 2nd Mexican helicopter sighted in U.S. airspace
Post by: tombogan03884 on April 04, 2010, 03:11:05 PM
Or trying to split another one on the back swing.
Something, a bit more than just a Kid busting up kindling.
Title: Re: 2nd Mexican helicopter sighted in U.S. airspace
Post by: Solus on April 04, 2010, 03:13:22 PM
yeah..I was looking for more...but it was a good pun.....Mexican Chopper
Title: Re: 2nd Mexican helicopter sighted in U.S. airspace
Post by: PegLeg45 on April 05, 2010, 04:41:16 PM
You guys are sooooo bloodthirsty............  :P  :P  :P        :-*





 ;D