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Title: Shipwreck - Philw
Post by: MikeBjerum on April 04, 2010, 02:47:55 PM
Phil ... or Sledge -

What light can you shine on this wreck?

http://www.startribune.com/world/89867257.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaEyqyP4O:DW3ckUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUUsZ (http://www.startribune.com/world/89867257.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaEyqyP4O:DW3ckUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUUsZ)
Title: Re: Shipwreck - Philw
Post by: twyacht on April 04, 2010, 02:53:48 PM
A potential environmental hazard in a sensitive area?

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/twyacht/a96891_n13.jpg)

Title: Re: Shipwreck - Philw
Post by: tombogan03884 on April 04, 2010, 03:17:23 PM

"Tighten your anus"  ?  ???    ::)

With Obummer in power that's good advice for all Tax Payers     ;D

Title: Re: Shipwreck - Philw
Post by: philw on April 04, 2010, 05:40:55 PM
hahaha  Tom  that is funny

Its obvious the boat was "made in china"  ( most are these days though )
http://www.vesseltracker.com/en/Ships/Shen-Neng-1-9040871.html



they are saying 2 tone of oil now  and think the oil may reach Rockhampton beaches tomorrow

there in over 900 tones of oil in it,  and they are worried that it will break up   then it will hit the fan

http://www.news.com.au/national/coal-carrier-shen-neng-1-runs-aground-on-great-barrier-reef/story-e6frfkvr-1225849471528


media beat up, the greenies will go berserk and all forgotten in about 2 days when the next big thing happens


(http://nachrichten.t-online.de/b/41/20/48/18/id_41204818/tid_da/index.jpg)



lol wonder if this is COSCO's  being China gov owned   getting back  at us after Rio  ( goes and gets tin foil.. )
Title: Re: Shipwreck - Philw
Post by: deepwater on April 04, 2010, 05:55:52 PM
she's a bulk carrier so the only oil on board is her fuel, and 900 tons is not much. in fact a few oil booms stretched around the ship and you can pump the oil of the top of the water. (I used to work for a salvage company that did this sort of thing.. recovery, not spills). also, coal can be lightered onto barges, this should be an easy cleanup. do hope they do it right the first time.
deepwater
Title: Re: Shipwreck - Philw
Post by: philw on April 04, 2010, 06:21:44 PM
she's a bulk carrier so the only oil on board is her fuel, and 900 tons is not much. in fact a few oil booms stretched around the ship and you can pump the oil of the top of the water. (I used to work for a salvage company that did this sort of thing.. recovery, not spills). also, coal can be lightered onto barges, this should be an easy cleanup. do hope they do it right the first time.
deepwater


problem is  they have not from what I have seen used the booms around it  and have plains spraying dispersants

they also say there are a couple of tugs on there way out there to stabilise it
Title: Re: Shipwreck - Philw
Post by: twyacht on April 04, 2010, 06:26:35 PM
The Capt. is really gonna be in trouble.... This is a big "whoops".....waypoint what waypoint???, I wanted the town with the best bar, not the sand bar,..... :P

Homer moment,....after the clean up...

Title: Re: Shipwreck - Philw
Post by: philw on April 04, 2010, 08:53:52 PM
looks like someone was trying to take a shortcut
(http://i41.tinypic.com/30kg1uu.jpg)
Title: Re: Shipwreck - Philw
Post by: Big Frank on April 04, 2010, 09:39:59 PM
GPS can get you within a few yards of a waypoint and he was 15 miles off course. That's not an accident, it's negligence.
Title: Re: Shipwreck - Philw
Post by: deepwater on April 05, 2010, 03:21:20 AM
GPS can get you within a few yards of a waypoint and he was 15 miles off course. That's not an accident, it's negligence.

no doubt about that, but then ships are guided by deck officers, not engineers...  ;D (had to put that out there) all they have to do is stay on the bridge and not run into anything... ooops  you see that guy? he came out of nowhere! remember, the sea is huge and they have radars to see even further, yet they still manage to foul up like this. how hard can it be to look out the window and steer for 4 hours at a time? this concludes my deck officer rant, thank you...
deepwater

AAAAGGGHHHHH!!!!!! DECKIES!!
Title: Re: Shipwreck - Philw
Post by: philw on April 05, 2010, 05:50:49 AM
lol  spoken like a true engineer   :P


?    who would the booms out   ??   why would they not have some or air drop them out there
Title: Re: Shipwreck - Philw
Post by: Hazcat on April 05, 2010, 10:46:06 AM
Phil, I am sure y'all have spill response / HazWaste companies there.  Containing this spill and cleaning it up is EASY!  I used to do this type of work.  If ya get there fast the clean up is easy and fairly quick.  If (as usual) they wait until the crap is spread all over the place then it is a nightmare (an EXPENSIVE one).
Title: Re: Shipwreck - Philw
Post by: deepwater on April 05, 2010, 05:55:27 PM
Haz is right, they usually take their sweet time in 1)reporting 2) calling the cleanup companies... but they're always quick in blaming the engineers (engineers don't even have windows to look out to see where they are, so this makes no sense, but that's what most incompetent captains try to do.)
 yes, you can drop the booms, but someone has to be there to set them out with a small boat for containment. I'm sure the tug company will bring something out with them though, salvage AND cleanup, now there's a decent paycheck.  ;D
deepwater
Title: Re: Shipwreck - Philw
Post by: twyacht on April 05, 2010, 06:03:34 PM
AAAAGGGHHHHH!!!!!! DECKIES!!

 ;D

There are some Captains I know, that I wouldn't get in a canoe and cross the ICW with...on a calm, clear day,....

Than there are some that keep their hardcopies of charts, to cross reference the course, verify speed, and DOUBLE CHECK THE DECKIES!!!!!!!!

To quote Donald Trump: "Your Fired!"
Title: Re: Shipwreck - Philw
Post by: sledgemeister on April 06, 2010, 10:43:54 AM
There was an oil spill?  ???

Forgive me I have been on night shift for the past 7 days, dont usually catch up on current events until  a few days has past.

But I did put a new scope on my new rifle!  ;D
Title: Re: Shipwreck - Philw
Post by: Hazcat on April 06, 2010, 01:14:49 PM
Lookin' good!  Certainly qualifies for Evil Black Rifle status! ;)