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Title: Humorous Comparison Of An AK47, An AR15 And A Mosin
Post by: billt on April 07, 2010, 09:43:50 AM
http://www.mouseguns.com/compare.htm

 ;D
Title: Re: Humorous Comparison Of An AK47, An AR15 And A Mosin
Post by: Hazcat on April 07, 2010, 09:52:36 AM
I've seen it before but it cracks me up every time!

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You can knock down everyone else's target just from the shock wave of your bullet going downrange.

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You can bayonet your foe on the other side of the river without leaving the comfort of your hole.

That right there is FUNNY!
Title: Re: Humorous Comparison Of An AK47, An AR15 And A Mosin
Post by: scott.ballard on April 07, 2010, 09:58:47 AM
That is priceless.

Thank you! 
Title: Re: Humorous Comparison Of An AK47, An AR15 And A Mosin
Post by: billt on April 07, 2010, 10:01:21 AM
AK-47.......You can accessorize your rifle with a new muzzle brake or a nice stock set.

AR-15.......Your rifle's accessories are eight times more valuable than your rifle.

Mosin Nagant...Your rifle's accessory is a small tin can with a funny lid, but its buried under an apartment building somewhere in Budapest.
Title: Re: Humorous Comparison Of An AK47, An AR15 And A Mosin
Post by: JC5123 on April 07, 2010, 10:09:56 AM
Funny, just because it's so true!   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Humorous Comparison Of An AK47, An AR15 And A Mosin
Post by: bulldog75 on April 07, 2010, 02:52:14 PM
 ;D Your rifle has fought against itself and won every time
Title: Re: Humorous Comparison Of An AK47, An AR15 And A Mosin
Post by: Conagher 45 on April 07, 2010, 06:22:51 PM
Just saved this one to my documents.
Title: Re: Humorous Comparison Of An AK47, An AR15 And A Mosin
Post by: twyacht on April 07, 2010, 06:38:58 PM
I remember reading this last year it is very funny, and true.

AK Your sight adjustment goes to '10', and you've never bothered moving it.
      You can repair your rifle with a big hammer and a swift kick.

AR     When out of ammo, your rifle makes a great whiffle bat.
        Late at night you sometimes have to fight the urge to clear your house, slicing the pie from room to room.

Moisin You dig your ammo out of a farmer's field in Ukraine and it works just fine.
         What's a safety?


Title: Re: Humorous Comparison Of An AK47, An AR15 And A Mosin
Post by: Mericet on April 07, 2010, 06:43:56 PM
Good one!
Title: Re: Humorous Comparison Of An AK47, An AR15 And A Mosin
Post by: devzal on April 07, 2010, 06:44:08 PM
I have one of each, and I am certain the Mosin Nagant firing pin can be used as a makeshift dagger.
Title: Re: Humorous Comparison Of An AK47, An AR15 And A Mosin
Post by: ericire12 on April 07, 2010, 06:53:12 PM
Thats so old....

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You paid $59.95

I think they are up to like $70 now.  ;D
Title: Re: Humorous Comparison Of An AK47, An AR15 And A Mosin
Post by: garand4life on April 07, 2010, 07:08:21 PM
I bought "Enemy at the Gates" because of that posting when I saw it about 2 years ago. And oddly after a long day at the range I'm not really wanting to watch "Blackhawk Down" as much as I want to watch "S.W.A.T." (the movie with Samuel L. Jackson) or "We Were Soldiers"
Title: Re: Humorous Comparison Of An AK47, An AR15 And A Mosin
Post by: philw on April 07, 2010, 08:20:55 PM
hahaha   love it
Title: Re: Humorous Comparison Of An AK47, An AR15 And A Mosin
Post by: Walter45Auto on April 08, 2010, 12:09:21 AM
I don't get the 'Late at night you sometimes have to fight the urge to hold your rifle over your head and shout "Wolverines!" ' part.

And all of a sudden I have the urge to watch Enemy at the Gates.
Title: Re: Humorous Comparison Of An AK47, An AR15 And A Mosin
Post by: tombogan03884 on April 08, 2010, 02:07:25 AM
Read the book ! It is worth the time .
Title: Re: Humorous Comparison Of An AK47, An AR15 And A Mosin
Post by: Solus on April 08, 2010, 08:21:09 AM
I don't get the 'Late at night you sometimes have to fight the urge to hold your rifle over your head and shout "Wolverines!" ' part.

A scene from the movie Red Dawn

And all of a sudden I have the urge to watch Enemy at the Gates.

Lots of M91/30 featured in this movie
Title: Re: Humorous Comparison Of An AK47, An AR15 And A Mosin
Post by: fightingquaker13 on April 19, 2010, 03:06:49 AM
Funny as all this is, it does raise a serious question. Assuming (however unlikley and absurd it may be), a Red Dawn scenario. What would you carry? Me, I like my AR, but its best inside of 200 yards. Beyond that, its a a choice of who God loves best, me or my target. I also think that going toe to toe with folks who kick in doors and clear houses for a living is a suckers bet.With my bolt action Ruger M-77 in .270, I can put 5 rounds inside of 4" at 200 yards, and will at least get your undivided attention at 500 yards. Given tht I wil lose and lose hard at CQB with a trained uniit, I think that being able to take a shot at a block away and then blend into the crowd, gives a very big plus to a reliable bolt action gun for SHTF situations, because "shoot and scoot" seems th only tactic with a snowbll's chance of working. Just my .02
FQ13
Title: Re: Humorous Comparison Of An AK47, An AR15 And A Mosin
Post by: tombogan03884 on April 19, 2010, 10:41:06 AM
On this I think FQ's .02 cents is worth at least a nickle.
Title: Re: Humorous Comparison Of An AK47, An AR15 And A Mosin
Post by: bulldog75 on April 19, 2010, 01:41:59 PM
FQ I agree with you on that.
Title: Re: Humorous Comparison Of An AK47, An AR15 And A Mosin
Post by: TAB on April 19, 2010, 02:44:10 PM
Now FQ13, why don't you buy a Mosin and take that ammo off tw's hands?


Maybe he likes his shoulder? 
Title: Re: Humorous Comparison Of An AK47, An AR15 And A Mosin
Post by: fightingquaker13 on April 19, 2010, 02:58:22 PM
I've given some serious thought to a Moisin. This is because I like the history of the thing and the idea of having an accurate yet disposable gun (less than $150) has a certain appeal as a truck gun. The thing is though, it won't do a thing that my .270 can't do and its a RH bolt. So while I am strongly tempted every time I turn on the History or Military Channel, I will decline. :-\
FQ13 who may one day regret this decision, and if anyone can find me a bargain on a Springfield or Garand will throw logic to the wind, particularly the Springfield. ;D
Title: Re: Humorous Comparison Of An AK47, An AR15 And A Mosin
Post by: Walter45Auto on April 19, 2010, 11:59:04 PM
Not sure what you mean TAB..................shoulder? Have you ever shot one? They really aren't that bad.

I have some Egyptian 8 gr 7.62x54R for people that don't like recoil.





Someone once told me they kick like hell after you cut the bayonet off. And this guy would know. He had 28 or 29 of them at the time (Not all without the bayonet. Jut one I believe.)......
Title: Re: Humorous Comparison Of An AK47, An AR15 And A Mosin
Post by: billt on April 20, 2010, 04:14:08 PM
I have shot a few myself as I've bought exactly 50 Mosins over the past 2 years. That includes M38's, M44's and 9130's.

How hard is it to find one in new, unissued condition?  Bill T.
Title: Re: Humorous Comparison Of An AK47, An AR15 And A Mosin
Post by: CJS3 on April 20, 2010, 07:38:13 PM
Someone once told me they kick like hell after you cut the bayonet off. And this guy would know. He had 28 or 29 of them at the time (Not all without the bayonet. Jut one I believe.)......

They're not near as bad as a 303 Jungle Carbine.


That's a nice stock on the 91/30 on the bottom. Where'd you get it?
Title: Re: Humorous Comparison Of An AK47, An AR15 And A Mosin
Post by: Jackel on April 20, 2010, 08:36:40 PM
so what could i expect to pay for a decent Mosin? surely not $60
Title: Re: Humorous Comparison Of An AK47, An AR15 And A Mosin
Post by: ericire12 on April 20, 2010, 08:39:56 PM
so what could i expect to pay for a decent Mosin? surely not $60

http://classicarms.us/firearms.htm

$80
Title: Re: Humorous Comparison Of An AK47, An AR15 And A Mosin
Post by: billt on April 20, 2010, 08:44:28 PM
I'm starting to like these rifles. Good price, and even better priced ammo.  Bill T.
Title: Re: Humorous Comparison Of An AK47, An AR15 And A Mosin
Post by: Jackel on April 20, 2010, 08:48:03 PM
thanks ericire  ;D

may buy 2 for spare parts.
Title: Re: Humorous Comparison Of An AK47, An AR15 And A Mosin
Post by: fightingquaker13 on April 20, 2010, 11:16:09 PM
thanks ericire  ;D

may buy 2 for spare parts.
You can also modify them pretty cheaply too. I PMed Operator on his cost to cut one back to 20" and recrown it. He figured about $150. This would kll the "authenticity" but you'd still have a nice truck gun with cheap ammo for $230.
FQ13
Title: Re: Humorous Comparison Of An AK47, An AR15 And A Mosin
Post by: fightingquaker13 on April 23, 2010, 03:05:30 AM
I got a real surprise when Big Brown pulled up this week.

I had ordered 5 more Mosins and an ATI stock from J&G  I couldn't believe it when the driver passed me one carton of 5 rifles and I said was that it and he said "no, you have another carton just like that one on here."

By mistake they sent me 10 rifles.  I'm thinking hmmmmmmmmmmmm, I guess I just got an early birthday present from J&G as technically, legally they were mine if sent to me and I didn't order them.

Anyway to make a long story short, they were supposed to go to someone else and my shipping labels printed out on both boxes.

They wanted me to ship them back, but I said to just bill me for them and I'd keep them if they wanted to eat the shipping. They were happy with my offer and it worked for me.  I wouldn't have felt right just keeping them.


Mosin 91/30 anyone?
And here I am saying I'm temted, but no, I'll pass. BASTARD! ;D  What kind of shape are they in and how much plus shipping to FL.?
FQ13 who is going to regret asking this ;D
Title: Re: Humorous Comparison Of An AK47, An AR15 And A Mosin
Post by: TAB on April 23, 2010, 03:29:41 AM
I maybe intrested.  not like I need it, but what the hey.
Title: Re: Humorous Comparison Of An AK47, An AR15 And A Mosin
Post by: Hazcat on April 23, 2010, 08:12:02 AM
I got a real surprise when Big Brown pulled up this week.

I had ordered 5 more Mosins and an ATI stock from J&G  I couldn't believe it when the driver passed me one carton of 5 rifles and I said was that it and he said "no, you have another carton just like that one on here."

By mistake they sent me 10 rifles.  I'm thinking hmmmmmmmmmmmm, I guess I just got an early birthday present from J&G as technically, legally they were mine if sent to me and I didn't order them.

Anyway to make a long story short, they were supposed to go to someone else and my shipping labels printed out on both boxes.

They wanted me to ship them back, but I said to just bill me for them and I'd keep them if they wanted to eat the shipping. They were happy with my offer and it worked for me.  I wouldn't have felt right just keeping them.


Mosin 91/30 anyone?

Hex receivers?  with the bayonet, oiler and sling? How much? (I have a C&R myself)
Title: Re: Humorous Comparison Of An AK47, An AR15 And A Mosin
Post by: ericire12 on April 23, 2010, 08:33:32 AM
(I have a C&R myself)

You ARE a C&R ;D





*Groan!  ::)
Title: Re: Humorous Comparison Of An AK47, An AR15 And A Mosin
Post by: twyacht on April 24, 2010, 04:41:23 PM
Since nobody wants my spam can of 440rds. of milsurp ammo from J&G, at those prices from classic arms, I just might get one myself,

with the "Pig Sticker" and kit.... ::)
Title: Re: Humorous Comparison Of An AK47, An AR15 And A Mosin
Post by: fightingquaker13 on April 24, 2010, 04:49:07 PM
Since nobody wants my spam can of 440rds. of milsurp ammo from J&G, at those prices from classic arms, I just might get one myself,

with the "Pig Sticker" and kit.... ::)
If you're right handed, I can't think of a single reason not to. You'd have a solid, yet disposable rifle with a thousand rounds of ammo for around $250. Hard to say no.
FQ13
Title: Re: Humorous Comparison Of An AK47, An AR15 And A Mosin
Post by: twyacht on April 24, 2010, 04:51:41 PM
If you're right handed, I can't think of a single reason not to. You'd have a solid, yet disposable rifle with a thousand rounds of ammo for around $250. Hard to say no.
FQ13

Hell the rifles are $79.95 and up, and I already have 440rds of ammo....
Title: Re: Humorous Comparison Of An AK47, An AR15 And A Mosin
Post by: fightingquaker13 on April 24, 2010, 05:06:13 PM
Hell the rifles are $79.95 and up, and I already have 440rds of ammo....
So why are you posting here, not talking to Century? I talked to the owner when I was an hour away from hitting the closing date on a sale for AKs and ARs at two different dealers. He assured me that if I paid the (I think it was an extra $10) hand select fee, that they would not only go over 10 AKs an send me the pick of the litter, but if there was a problem with sight cant etc., all I had to do was send it back and they'd send me a new rifle, and do so till I was happy. All I had to do was pay shipping one way. Doesn't get much better IMHO. Buy the damn gun. Its $100 to you hand select plus shipping and transfer (though they do qualify for C@R) but you're still ahead and its a cool gun. If I were RH I'd probably go Dave's route and figure that 5 Moisin's were better than one AK for the $389 price tag, assuming you had to bury a couple along with some sealed ammo for SHTF situations. ;D
FQ13, the voice of Satan
Title: Re: Humorous Comparison Of An AK47, An AR15 And A Mosin
Post by: ericire12 on April 24, 2010, 08:07:14 PM
I cleaned out one of my safes today.......................


These are some of my Mosins. Can you ever have too many?

I think you have too many.... unless you are trying to arm a militia.



*Notice he said "one" of his safes ;)
Title: Re: Humorous Comparison Of An AK47, An AR15 And A Mosin
Post by: Solus on April 25, 2010, 01:55:48 PM
I think you have too many.... unless you are trying to arm a militia.



*Notice he said "one" of his safes ;)

Yeah...and SOME of his Mosins


No shock here...but a lot of awe.... :D
Title: Re: Humorous Comparison Of An AK47, An AR15 And A Mosin
Post by: Solus on April 25, 2010, 01:58:46 PM
Does anyone know it would be legal for for a group, say in Ohio, to make a volume...5 or 10 or so.. purchase for the various folks interested?

I guess everyone would have to make a trip to the receiving FFL for the transfer since the plan is for them to go to others.

Title: Re: Humorous Comparison Of An AK47, An AR15 And A Mosin
Post by: fightingquaker13 on April 25, 2010, 02:03:21 PM
I think you have too many.... unless you are trying to arm a militia.



*Notice he said "one" of his safes ;)
If it were 1939 outside, and we lived in Poland,  he'd be damn handy to know. ;)
FQ13
Title: Re: Humorous Comparison Of An AK47, An AR15 And A Mosin
Post by: fightingquaker13 on April 25, 2010, 08:35:08 PM
My C&R has paid for itself many times over, actually with the first purchase I ever made with it.
Does the C@R cover transfers, even if they are for profit? Because that is a big honking felony if it doesn't. Do you have to do the background check? Honestly, I would watch my ass on this. Not that anyone is likely to hold up a liquor store with a Moisin, unless they had a very long counter to accomodate the six feet of rifle and bayonet, and a good supply of vodka. ;) Still, it does leave you open to straw purchase chares (which are all the rage now). >:(
FQ13 
Title: Re: Humorous Comparison Of An AK47, An AR15 And A Mosin
Post by: david86440 on April 25, 2010, 08:57:56 PM
Does the C@R cover transfers, even if they are for profit? Because that is a big honking felony if it doesn't. Do you have to do the background check? Honestly, I would watch my ass on this. Not that anyone is likely to hold up a liquor store with a Moisin, unless they had a very long counter to accomodate the six feet of rifle and bayonet, and a good supply of vodka. ;) Still, it does leave you open to straw purchase chares (which are all the rage now). >:(
FQ13  

What are you talking about FQ13? I have a C&R for my own personal collecting. I do not sell guns although I am allowed infrequent sales to further my collection.

What background check are you talking about? You really need to read what a C&R is and isn't. I have saved money in transfer fees by having a C&R and having C&R guns shipped directly to me. If I had to go through an O1 dealer every time I bought a C&R eligible rifle or shotgun it would cost me a small fortune.

I say rifle or shotgun because here in California I can't use it for handgun purchases unless I take possession out of state and then I have to pay $19 to CADOJ withing 5 days of bringing it into CA in order to register it. If I have a C&R handgun shipped to CA it has to go to an 01 and I have to pay all the fees associated with buying a handgun and also am still required to wait 10 days even though I have a CA CCW.

Transfers of curio or relic firearms by licensed collectors are not subject to the requirements of the Brady law

It does not allow me to be in the business and I'm not.
Title: Re: Humorous Comparison Of An AK47, An AR15 And A Mosin
Post by: billt on April 26, 2010, 04:39:20 AM
A lot of people are very misled by the title of the license itself. The term "Curio & RELIC" doesn't mean "old clunker". There are many modern firearms on the list. It will surprise you how many guns you can buy / sell / & ship to your door with a valid C&R License. You can download the list here:

http://www.atf.gov/publications/firearms/curios-relics/