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Member Section => Defense and Tactics => Topic started by: mydogtaz on April 14, 2010, 12:30:39 AM
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my question or curiosity is this.. a pistol grip or standard stock shotgun better for home defense??? what about accuracy??? 8)
opinions please,rob,yours too if you are viewng.thanks..........
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Pistol grip is shorter and easier to maneuver indoors but with a standard stock you can lock it between your arm and side keeping one hand one the grip while using the other to open or close doors or anything else that may be needed.
I have had both and got rid of them in favor of a Knoxx recoil absorbing stock, I got the one that has the collapsible stock like an AR, it fits me perfectly though I have not had a chance to shoot it yet.
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I too use the Ar15 style 6 position stock on a Remi 870, with 20'' cylinder bore barrel with rifle sights, the sights are mepro light tritiums, and a surefire forend ( weapons light ) 7 rd tube. It shoots very well at defense distance, 18 yrd and under. A side saddle to hold extra and different rounds like 2 slugs, for when distances increase or there is a harder cover to penetrate.
Looks like this:
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff150/m25operator/100_1338.jpg)
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Has anyone ever thought of a .410 for home defense. I saw one that I think it was GunTests talked about. Said it had very little recoil with the bird or buckshot(not really sure they call it buckshot in .410 but that is the only word that I can come up with). It did not have a butt stock, it was like a cut down shotgun(legal). So it had the pistol grip and said it would be good for the spouse who is not use to recoil to operate, plus you get the racking of the gun like a regular shotgun.
Just another option out there. The price was right too. Under $400 if I remember.
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The Mossberg HS410 (HS for Home Security) was marketed as a home defense gun for smaller framed and unfamiliar shooters. I dunno if it's still made, but it was basically a .410 Mossberg 500 with a muzzle brake on it. I wouldn't have an unfamiliar shooter defend the house with a pistol gripped shotgun. They're harder to hit with.
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http://www.mossberg.com/products/default.asp?id=22§ion=products
Saw one in a gun shop and they are small and the first thing after I thought of getting one for the kids was home defense.
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.410 not in a Judge,....for SD,... yes, of course it would work. But there are options, the Rem and Mossberg 20g. or the new lighter recoil 12g.
This was posted before, but pistol grips are good for healthy hands, and strong arms, those with weaker, smaller hands, or have health issues benefit from even a coach's gun. Short, but still the support of a shoulder stock. and can always be fired from the hip if necessary. Recoil, and an "unorthodox" shooting stance can leave you in a lurch shooting with a pistol grip. Great for Tac teams sweeping a house, but for SD consider all options.
The 12g/20g, is also fantastic, for your "last stand/safe room" line of defense. Those that call 911, and as MB and Rob preach, draw your line in the sand, i.e. bedroom, kids room, it is without question suitable.
In that scenario, a traditional stock is more stable, controllable, and less felt recoil, in case more shots are needed.
Just my .02 cents.
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I too use the Ar15 style 6 position stock on a Remi 870, with 20'' cylinder bore barrel with rifle sights, the sights are mepro light tritiums, and a surefire forend ( weapons light ) 7 rd tube. It shoots very well at defense distance, 18 yrd and under. A side saddle to hold extra and different rounds like 2 slugs, for when distances increase or there is a harder cover to penetrate.
Looks like this:
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff150/m25operator/100_1338.jpg)
Very nice..!
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This was posted before, but pistol grips are good for healthy hands, and strong arms, those with weaker, smaller hands, or have health issues benefit from even a coach's gun. Short, but still the support of a shoulder stock. and can always be fired from the hip if necessary.
Agreed. If you need a short OAL shotgun (& don't want to play w/ the NFA paperwork), then a coach gun is a great option. I have a Stoeger Coach Gun 12ga. as my HD shotgun....handy and powerful....
Just say NO to pistol-grip-only SGN's....
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Its true. You can do whatever you want to the stock's dimensons, just not the barrel's. 6 position AR-style, or a wood saw and a rubber recoil pad, whatever works.
FQ13
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Its true. You can do whatever you want to the stock's dimensons, just not the barrel's. 6 position AR-style, or a wood saw and a rubber recoil pad, whatever works.
FQ13
Not necessarily true everywhere FQ13:
A short-barreled shotgun means a firearm designed or redesigned to fire a fixed shotgun shell that
has a barrel or barrels of less than 18 inches in length or an overall length of less than 26 inches;
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According to my training on the 4473 form a shotgun installed with only a pistol grip is no longer classified as a shotgun. The 4473 must show it as defined as "Other.". If the owner of a shotgun takes off the stock and installs a pistol grip the gun does not need to be reclassified (at least in MN).