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Title: Man loses licence after drink-driving in toy Barbie car
Post by: shooter32 on April 20, 2010, 09:01:32 AM
Man loses licence after drink-driving in toy Barbie car
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/7606600/Man-loses-licence-after-drink-driving-in-toy-Barbie-car.html

Title: Re: Man loses licence after drink-driving in toy Barbie car
Post by: philw on April 20, 2010, 09:19:41 AM
hahahahaah
Title: Re: Man loses licence after drink-driving in toy Barbie car
Post by: Teresa Heilevang on April 20, 2010, 11:14:47 AM
My god... hahahahahahaha  You have to just shake your head and wonder about the mentality of people.. ....
Title: Re: Man loses licence after drink-driving in toy Barbie car
Post by: Ulmus on April 20, 2010, 11:33:20 AM
Well, hell, that's what he gets for not driving the mini-Hummer!  ;D
Title: Re: Man loses licence after drink-driving in toy Barbie car
Post by: Solus on April 20, 2010, 12:32:25 PM
He does sound like he was out of control...

But, somehow, I don't think his driving license should have been involved.  I doubt he was driving what is legally a vehicle.

Drunk driving laws exist to protect folks from a automobile out of control.

If he had been on a pogo stick, would his license have been revoked?

He may have been endangering folks if he was on a public highway or even sidewalk...but he would have been endangering them more on a skate board or running..

If public drunkenness or endangering the public has provisions for revoking a license when no motor vehicle is involved, I'd find that unusual, but I guess it could be said if you get out of control while drunk, pull the license just in case he might drive drunk


Title: Re: Man loses licence after drink-driving in toy Barbie car
Post by: Timothy on April 20, 2010, 12:38:30 PM
It's England....

They think a butter knife is a deadly weapon......
Title: Re: Man loses licence after drink-driving in toy Barbie car
Post by: shooter32 on April 20, 2010, 12:39:30 PM
It's England....

They think a butter knife is a deadly weapon......

That was my take on this!  ::)
Title: Re: Man loses licence after drink-driving in toy Barbie car
Post by: r_w on April 20, 2010, 01:53:27 PM
Hate to break it to you, but the laws are written the same here.  It is about a driver on a public road, the vehicle doesn't really matter (may need to be motorized, may not).  When I was growing up we had two "town drunks" that would drive their lawn tractors to the bar because they had lost their licenses.  Still got DWI's when they pushed it. 

Yup, my neck is pretty red.
Title: Re: Man loses licence after drink-driving in toy Barbie car
Post by: Big Frank on April 20, 2010, 03:13:02 PM
If a Barbe car is a vehicle and not a toy then you should have a drivers license for it. Why isn't it illegal for children to drive? That's worse than a drunk driver.
Title: Re: Man loses licence after drink-driving in toy Barbie car
Post by: r_w on April 20, 2010, 04:48:42 PM
Underage driver
Unregistered vehicle
No insurance

All could apply IF on the road.

Not to mention neglect and child endangerment to the parents for letting them past the driveway.

No cop would write that up unless they wanted to teach a lesson, but they could.
Title: Re: Man loses licence after drink-driving in toy Barbie car
Post by: blackwolfe on April 20, 2010, 05:51:17 PM
In Michigan I have heard of drivers getting busted for DUI for golf carts and riding lawn mowers, but those are not to be operated on the public right of way.  Also while operating snowmobiles and boats.  I have heard of, but not confirmed of a bicylist being busted for DUI.  I do know of a bicylist that was cited for driving on the wrong side of the street.
Also in MI any type of scooter, electric bike, mini bike, any thing powered or power assisted is not to be operated on the street and (unless street legal) in some if not all locals can not be operated on sidewalks.  Mopeds are OK if it meets certain mandated requirements and restrictions.  I think mopeds need a special state sticker and are restricted to age 15 and over.
Title: Re: Man loses licence after drink-driving in toy Barbie car
Post by: twyacht on April 20, 2010, 07:30:55 PM
from OP:
The car was confiscated by police until the hearing but Mr Hutton now hopes to get it back.

,..and your going to pay big bucks to get your kids Barbie car back from the impound yard,...... :(

Geez.......What's next? Skateboard? Big Wheel?
Title: Re: Man loses licence after drink-driving in toy Barbie car
Post by: TAB on April 20, 2010, 07:37:36 PM
In most states you can get a DUI on your own property.  Here if your drunk on a bike on the street, you get a DUI, on the side walk you get a drunk in public.
Title: Re: Man loses licence after drink-driving in toy Barbie car
Post by: Dakotaranger on April 21, 2010, 12:24:15 AM
He does sound like he was out of control...

But, somehow, I don't think his driving license should have been involved.  I doubt he was driving what is legally a vehicle.

Drunk driving laws exist to protect folks from a automobile out of control.

If he had been on a pogo stick, would his license have been revoked?

He may have been endangering folks if he was on a public highway or even sidewalk...but he would have been endangering them more on a skate board or running..

If public drunkenness or endangering the public has provisions for revoking a license when no motor vehicle is involved, I'd find that unusual, but I guess it could be said if you get out of control while drunk, pull the license just in case he might drive drunk



Not necessarily, you can get a DUI while on a horse or on a bicycle...You don't want to know what I think should be done to DUI's a driver's licence is the bare minumum
Title: Re: Man loses licence after drink-driving in toy Barbie car
Post by: Solus on April 21, 2010, 08:24:51 AM
Not necessarily, you can get a DUI while on a horse or on a bicycle...You don't want to know what I think should be done to DUI's a driver's licence is the bare minumum

I agree with you. 

However, I do have some problem with the .08 limit.  Even at that low limit you are impaired, but you are also impaired after being awake for 5 hours, being distracted by a group of screaming kids in the car, chatting with the passenger.

The question is are you criminally impaired? 

Probably not for any of those.

I have heard news reporters make statements about folks saying they were tested at over the legal limit when they were doing nothing involving any kind of vehicle, implying the .08 legal driving limit is the absolute drinking limit.
Title: Re: Man loses licence after drink-driving in toy Barbie car
Post by: r_w on April 21, 2010, 09:08:57 AM
However, I do have some problem with the .08 limit.  Even at that low limit you are impaired, but you are also impaired after being awake for 5 hours, being distracted by a group of screaming kids in the car, chatting with the passenger.

The question is are you criminally impaired? 

Probably not for any of those.

or tuning the radio, or changing the CD, or reading a paper, or doing your makeup, or eating, or....

You are criminally impaired when you cause an accident. 

We are too focused on punising wrong actions than we are on promoting/training correct actions. 
Title: Re: Man loses licence after drink-driving in toy Barbie car
Post by: Dakotaranger on April 21, 2010, 05:01:13 PM
or tuning the radio, or changing the CD, or reading a paper, or doing your makeup, or eating, or....

You are criminally impaired when you cause an accident. 

We are too focused on punising wrong actions than we are on promoting/training correct actions. 
True.  I don't even talk on the cell phone when I'm driving unless on interstate anymore just because it isn't worth it.
Title: Re: Man loses licence after drink-driving in toy Barbie car
Post by: PegLeg45 on April 21, 2010, 10:47:57 PM
I shall refrain from an opinionated tirade on 'distracted' or 'impaired' drivers...........   >:(

I now return you to you regularly scheduled threading.