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By BOB BAUM, AP Sports Writer
PHOENIX (AP)—The Phoenix Suns will wear “Los Suns” on their jerseys in Game 2 of the Western Conference semifinals on Wednesday night, owner Robert Sarver said, “to honor our Latino community and the diversity of our league, the state of Arizona, and our nation.”
The decision to wear the jerseys on the Cinco de Mayo holiday stems from a law passed by the Arizona Legislature and signed by Gov. Jan Brewer that has drawn widespread criticism from Latino organizations and civil rights groups that say it could lead to racial profiling of Hispanics. President Barack Obama has called the law “misguided.”
Sarver, who was born and raised in Tucson, said frustration with the federal government’s failure to deal with the illegal immigration issue led to the passage of what he called “a flawed state law.”
“However intended, the result of passing the law is that our basic principles of equal rights and protection under the law are being called into question,” he said, “and Arizona’s already struggling economy will suffer even further setbacks at a time when the state can ill-afford them.”
The measure makes it a crime under state law to be in the country illegally, and it directs local police to question people about their immigration status and demand to see their documents if there is reason to suspect they are illegal.
The controversy surrounding the law has led to picketing at some road games of baseball’s Arizona Diamondbacks and a call from the Rev. Jesse Jackson for major league baseball to move next year’s All-Star Game from Phoenix.
Sarver came up with the “Los Suns” jersey idea but left it up to the players for the final decision, Suns guard Steve Nash(notes) said, and all of them were for it.
“I think it’s fantastic,” Nash said after Tuesday’s practice. “I think the law is very misguided. I think it’s, unfortunately, to the detriment of our society and our civil liberties. I think it’s very important for us to stand up for things we believe in. As a team and as an organization, we have a lot of love and support for all of our fans. The league is very multicultural. We have players from all over the world, and our Latino community here is very strong and important to us.”
Nash was born in South Africa and moved with his parents to Victoria, British Columbia, when he was 1 1/2 years old. He was one of four Canadians to light the torch in the opening ceremony of the Vancouver Olympics this year.
San Antonio coach Gregg Popovich said his team was interested in taking part but couldn’t get new “Los Spurs” road jerseys in time for the game.
“It’s a wonderful idea,” Popovich said. “because it kind of shows what we all should be about. Sure there needs to be a lot of work done, obviously. A lot of administrations have done nothing about the immigration deal and now everybody’s paying the price, especially a lot of people in Arizona. That’s a bad thing, but the reaction is important, too, and this reaction (the Arizona law), I believe with Mr. Sarver, is inappropriate.”
Phoenix general manager Steve Kerr said he and Sarver talked about making the gesture as the team flew home from Portland last week.
“We just felt like it was important,” Kerr said. “We’re in the public eye and this is obviously a huge issue. We acknowledge there are two sides to the issue and there are a lot of dynamics. It’s a difficult thing to sift through and there are going to be differing opinions. But what we’re focusing on is we want to celebrate the diversity that exists in our state and the diversity that exists in the NBA, make sure that people understand that we know what’s going on and we don’t agree with the law itself.”
But Kerr said “this isn’t a huge political stand as much as it is just a celebration of diversity.”
He said the Suns called the NBA for approval “and they were all for it.”
Suns coach Alvin Gentry didn’t want to comment on Arizona’s immigration bill and said he was focused on showing appreciation for the Latino community and Arizona’s diversity.
“I’m not trying to duck it,” Gentry said. “I don’t know enough about it to really comment on it. I would think that if it had anything to do with racial profiling, then obviously as an African-American I would not be for anything that had any hint of racial profiling.”
The Suns wore the “Los Suns” jerseys twice in the regular season, and won both games.
“It’s going to be great to wear Los Suns,” Phoenix’s Amare Stoudemire said, “to let the Latin community know that we’re behind them 100 percent.”
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-suns-immigration
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I guess he is interested in seeing how his paying fan base feels about the team supporting illegal immigrants...
We'll see how it works out for him.
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'Los Suns Sols'
El Stupido!
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By BOB BAUM, AP Sports Writer
PHOENIX (AP)—The Phoenix Suns will wear “Los Suns” on their jerseys in Game 2 of the Western Conference semifinals on “to honor our Latino community and the diversity of our league, the state of Arizona, and our nation.”
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-suns-immigration
The what?
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Polls are supporting the immigration law by around %80, let's just see how many boo them at the next game! (and I hate Basketball!)
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Whatever....how about "Los Beaners"?
Seriously...Los Cardinals? Los Celtics? Los Cowboys? Los Lakers? You can suck it all you want.
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Whatever....how about "Los Beaners"?
Seriously...Los Cardinals? Los Celtics? Los Cowboys? Los Lakers? You can suck it all you want.
Los Redskins ;D
or
Los Indians ;D
or
Los Angeles Dodgers ;D
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But I do like the band "Los Lobos"!
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But I do like the band "Los Lobos"!
Winner!
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http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_NBA_players_are_Mexican
There has only been two Mexican NBA players ever Eduardo Najera and Horacio Llamas .
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Is that Lorenzo's little brother? :o LMAO!
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(http://9gag.com/photo/1107_540.jpg)
(http://hambotalk.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/2009latinonightin.jpg)
(http://www.derrich.com/img/los-spurs.jpg)
(http://www.mlbjersey.us/Upfiles/Adidas%20Los%20Angeles%20Lakersy7%20Odom%20White%20Replica%20Basketball%20Jersey.jpg)
(http://product.images.prosportsmemorabilia.com/31-90/31-90226-P.jpg)
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Maybe as a counter movement, we should forgo the use of Tequila tomorrow (sorry, Haz...it's only one day)
I suggest this as an alternative
Lynchberg Lemonade
1 part Jack Daniels Whiskey
1 part Sweet and Sour mix
1 part Triple Sec
4 parts Sprite (or equivalent)
Over ice, pour everything. Shake and drink.
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Lynchberg Lemonade
1 part Jack Daniels Whiskey
1 part Sweet and Sour mix
1 part Triple Sec
4 parts Sprite (or equivalent)
Over ice, pour everything. Shake and drink.
God Bless America!
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And we will call it a "HazDanerita"! ;D
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The measure makes it a crime under state law to be in the country illegally, and it directs local police to question people about their immigration status and demand to see their documents if there is reason to suspect they are illegal.
The measure reminds every one that it is a crime to be in the country illegally, and it directs local police to do their jobs as they were sworn to do.
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Well, He!!....wonder what a Hazarita would taste like if we just swap the Tequila for JD....save keeping two complete inventories on hand ;D ;D ;D
Call it the "Jackarita-Inspired by Haz"
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With all due respect, and I regard most of you as friends, but you are GIANT FREAKING IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't just boycott Tequila on Cinco De Mayo. No reason to turn your back on old friend. Instead, have a glass of nice Bordeaux, or a Crozes Herimtage, a Calvados and a shot of old Cognac. ;D ;D ;D I will personally be having Blanquette de Veaux. (Its a a white veal stew served over egg noodles if you do it the Alsace Lorrainne way, and damned tasty). It will be washed down with a nice Cote de Rhone. Think of it. The one day you can say Vie La France!, and be a patriotic American. ;D ;D ;D ;D
FQ13 who knows the best revenge is eating and drinking well ;) (and probably spelling badly in French again, Zoot alors! ;D)
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The measure makes it a crime under state law to be in the country illegally
Illegal alien... hmmmm. It's only two words, so one would assume that the meaning would not be lost so easily. They are citizens of a foreign country that have entered this country illegally. When you think about it, AZ is now making it against the law to break the law. Wow, what a novel concept, and exercise in redundancy! :D It's amazes me to no end that anyone (besides the illegals themselves) would have a problem with this. ??? I can't stand NBA basketball anyway or I would boycott the playoffs due to the brazen stupidity shown by the league and teams that oppose the law.
Swoop
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Swoop says:
"They are citizens of a foreign country that have entered this country illegally"
What part of "Illegal" don't they understand? It's ONLY the illegal ones that bother the shit out of us?
FQ13, I don't do wine or Cognac. I realize they are a nice alcoholic addition to the finer things in life. But, quite frankly, the French SUCK, and give up WAY to damn easily! LOL!
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Swoop says:
"They are citizens of a foreign country that have entered this country illegally"
What part of "Illegal" don't they understand? It's ONLY the illegal ones that bother the shit out of us?
FQ13, I don't do wine or Cognac. I realize they are a nice alcoholic addition to the finer things in life. But, quite frankly, the French SUCK, and give up WAY to damn easily! LOL!
You miss the point. Cinco de Mayo celebrates the Battle of Puebla, a victory of Mexico over France. Eating French food is just too much irony to pass up. France, the only nation that lost a war to Mexico AND Haiti. Mexico, the only country who thought beating the French was worth creating a national holiday over. ;D ;D I have near equal regard for both.
FQ13
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Screw the Mexicans and the French, and forget about the Cognac. Drink Asbach Uralt from Germany. Liqour stores on the internet have it. http://www.winechateau.com/vsku1338637.html Better yet buy American whiskey like Jim Beam.
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Better yet buy American whiskey like Jim Beam.
Which is now owned by the Swedish Company Inbev (the government owned company that makes Absolut and just bought Cruzan. :-\ Sorry, it ain't as American as you think. I will say this. At least the Swedes are able to turn a profit on government run companies. GM paying back its loans is llke Bill Clinton never inhaling. ;)
FQ13
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I'm sorry, but if the Mexicans thought it was "such a great day", they wouldn't need to celebrate it HERE! They did it, not us! Let 'em celebrate it ALL they want down there. French food is for woosy's! And so is wine and Cognac! You may be a Professor of Politics, but your palette and choice of cuisine sucks! Just not most AMERICANS cup o'tea! (no offense intended, your intelligence surpasses your tastes!) LMAO!
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I'm sorry, but if the Mexicans thought it was "such a great day", they wouldn't need to celebrate it HERE! They did it, not us! Let 'em celebrate it ALL they want down there. French food is for woosy's! And so is wine and Cognac! You may be a Professor of Politics, but your palette and choice of cuisine sucks! Just not most AMERICANS cup o'tea! (no offense intended, your intelligence surpasses your tastes!) LMAO!
You don't like French food and wine? Next you will be telling me Sarkosy's wife isn't hot. Look, if you don't like a good French red and a nice bowl coq au vin I can't help you. If you disagree "I will have to mock you a second time"! ;D
FQ13 who likes France so long as it sticks to food, wine and women. Movies, politics, automobiles and warfare? Generally bad ideas. ;)
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No, I don't. (mock me all ya want, it's all good!) The food is tastless and the wine ain't 'shine. (sorry about my hillbilly heritage) Sarkosky's wife isn't an issue here. :-X
I bet you think the French invented "French Fries"! OK, enough off-topic garbage, back to the Mexicans!
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Polls are supporting the immigration law by around %80, let's just see how many boo them at the next game! (and I hate Basketball!)
It'd be funny as all get out if 80% didn't bother to show up for the game.
I wonder how many of the folks the team management is thumping their chests over actually buy tickets?
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It'd be funny as all get out if 80% didn't bother to show up for the game.
I wonder how many of the folks the team management is thumping their chests over actually buy tickets?
This is the sad thing. The Sun are doing this to save themselvs from boycotts etc. Here's a clue, there are more Chinese, (3) than
Mexicans, (2) in the NBA. Hell, there were two jewish players until last year and nobody had a star of David or a Chinese dragon on the uniform. Most AAs don't particularly like MAs, particularly illegalls and white folks are getting tired of the immigration issue as well. Leaving morarity and politics aside (you know where I stand, but others do have a serious case to make) putting "Viva los Illegals' on jerseys seems like a real bad idea business wise.
FQ13
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just another reason not to watch the game.
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just another reason not to watch the game.
You had me at NBA! ;D
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Ya know? We missed a bet here. Instead of the commie May 1 or illegals' May 5 celebrations, we should be celebrating April 21 - close to the others, beats the crap out of the commie inspired so-called "earth day" crap (hint - who was born on 4/22 in 1870?), and celebrates a true pre-American event of note.
Any guesses?
And Sarkozy's wife is a skanky, skinny-assed French broad - not on a bet!
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Houston vs Santa Ana...
"Remember the Alamo"!
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WE shouldn't be celebrating it but Obullsh!t and the lefties should (and I bet do)
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WE shouldn't be celebrating it but Obullsh!t and the lefties should (and I bet do)
Gauranteed...
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Houston vs Santa Ana...
"Remember the Alamo"!
Oh, yes, we should be celebrating it. Right players and right motto - Battle of Jacinto when over 700 Mexican troops were killed by Houston's smaller force in less than half an hour.
Let's start a move to celebrate April 21 as a national holiday.
And whose birthday was April 22, 1870 that became earth day? Tom and TT - earth day needs to be abolished when you take office. Add it to the "To Do" list.
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And whose birthday was April 22, 1870 that became earth day? Tom and TT - earth day needs to be abolished when you take office. Add it to the "To Do" list.
Владимир Ильич Ленин
;D ;D ;D
;D
***Vladimir Ilyich Lenin***
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Владимир Ильич Ленин
;D ;D ;D
;D
***Vladimir Ilyich Lenin***
"Give the man a cookie!" - Don Rickles
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"Give the man a cookie!" - Don Rickles
I always liked Don Rickles...........and chocolate chip cookies......heck who am I kidding, I like cookies period. :P
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Notice there don't seem to be any reports on their game / attendance from last night. I wonder.......
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Notice there don't seem to be any reports on their game / attendance from last night. I wonder.......
I saw the game on SportsCenter today.... it looked like a fullhouse, but it was a playoff game after all. It does not surprise me that with the cost/desirability of the tickets that not many would protest.
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Who gives a crap what a bunch of ignorant black jocks think ?
I had no respect for jocks in school and I don't now.
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I saw the game on SportsCenter today.... it looked like a fullhouse, but it was a playoff game after all. It does not surprise me that with the cost/desirability of the tickets that not many would protest.
Some of those tickets were sold a year ago anyway. At those prices, not too many people are gonna stay home.
I was in LA twenty some years ago when the Lakers made the finals against the Celtics. Being a Lakers fan (I know! Misguided) at the time I called the Forum and asked to get a "nosebleed" seat anywhere in the building and was willing to pay up to about 500 bucks.
the lady laughed at me and explained that the Forum was sold out for the playoffs for several years into the future...
I watched the whole series from the comfort of my RAMADA Inn hotel room in San Clemente, room service and a quart or two of 12 year old Scots whiskey....
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Some of those tickets were sold a year ago anyway. At those prices, not too many people are gonna stay home.
I was in LA twenty some years ago when the Lakers made the finals against the Celtics. Being a Lakers fan (I know! Misguided) at the time I called the Forum and asked to get a "nosebleed" seat anywhere in the building and was willing to pay up to about 500 bucks.
the lady laughed at me and explained that the Forum was sold out for the playoffs for several years into the future...
I watched the whole series from the comfort of my RAMADA Inn hotel room in San Clemente, room service and a quart or two of 12 year old Scots whiskey....
Exactly, They knew the move couldn't hurt them at least in the short term. The money has already been spent. Question is, how long peoples memories are.
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Exactly, They knew the move couldn't hurt them at least in the short term. The money has already been spent. Question is, how long peoples memories are.
In my experience, rather short......It's only been 234 years and it's no longer acceptable to fly the American Flag in front of our schools.....