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Title: The Media Anti's Are At It Again!
Post by: MikeBjerum on May 05, 2010, 12:46:39 PM
I needed to go on here and type quickly this noon.  While driving down the road this morning I heard a news report.  A simple one sentence statement.  A statement with absolutely nothing to it except to rile anti-gunners.  A statement with absolutely nothing to do with the event it was tied to.  The statement ...

The Times Square bomber, Faisal Shahzad, purchased a gun at a gun show in March.

That is all ... nothing else ...

Bend me over and shove it in   >:(
Title: Re: The Media Anti's Are At It Again!
Post by: alfsauve on May 05, 2010, 01:04:45 PM
I warned you nothing good would come out of the Senate Committee meeting today.   See this thread (page 2) for link.

http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=12363.msg161889#msg161889 (http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=12363.msg161889#msg161889)
Title: Re: The Media Anti's Are At It Again!
Post by: ericire12 on May 05, 2010, 01:16:48 PM
Bloomberg was testifying before congress today and was using this as a reason to push for new firearm legislation (dont let a good crisis go to waste). He wants to close the "terrorist loophole"  and make it impossible for terroists to buy guns -- legally. He said that something like 1,000+ terrorists have bought a gun recently in this country and went on and on about how we have to keep them from getting guns.....

Did you catch that.... This dude drives a car bomb into Times Square and Bloomy wants to ban guns.... makes a lot of sense doesnt it.

If his statistic is even true, here is the REAL issue.... There are 1,000+ terrorists on U.S. soil! DO SOMEHTING ABOUT THAT! Dont focus your time and efforts on trying to keep them from buying a handgun or a rifle. If you know they are here and you know they have ties to terrorists, then ARREST THEM! Does he really think that a no-buy list is gonna stop some terrorist who is hell bent on getting a gun? Hey, maybe we should close the enriched uranium loophole and start a no-buy list for that stuff..... we dont want a terrorist to be able to buy enriched uranium do we? We should put their names on a list.

A the very least they should try to keep them from obtaining the items they need to make a bomb? But you will NEVER see a list of people not approved to buy propane or gasoline or cars..... that would be racist or something.

Title: Re: The Media Anti's Are At It Again!
Post by: ericire12 on May 05, 2010, 01:24:26 PM
I warned you nothing good would come out of the Senate Committee meeting today.   See this thread (page 2) for link.

http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=12363.msg161889#msg161889 (http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=12363.msg161889#msg161889)

Yep.

They want to give the attorney general the right to ban anyone that he wants from owning firearms..... The problem with the bill is that it will make the AG the new Gun Czar. It puts no limitations or requirements on what the criteria is for making that decision would be..... it is totally up to the discretion of the AG and he can make the decision based on whatever he wants. Not only could he ban specific individuals, but he could make sweeping bans like say perhaps anyone know to be associated with the Tea Party (they are extremists after all) or everyone on the No-Fly list (there are countless law abiding citizens on that list... Hell, Ted Kennedy was on it for a while).

The left is screaming profiling and racism over the AZ thing, but this new gun law would be blatent discrimination.

Exit Question: How is the 2nd Amendment supposd to keep us safe from a tyrannical govt when govt makes all the rules that define gun ownership
Title: Re: The Media Anti's Are At It Again!
Post by: garand4life on May 05, 2010, 07:00:14 PM


If his statistic is even true, here is the REAL issue.... There are 1,000+ terrorists on U.S. soil! DO SOMEHTING ABOUT THAT! Dont focus your time and efforts on trying to keep them from buying a handgun or a rifle. If you know they are here and you know they have ties to terrorists, then ARREST THEM! Does he really think that a no-buy list is gonna stop some terrorist who is hell bent on getting a gun? Hey, maybe we should close the enriched uranium loophole and start a no-buy list for that stuff..... we dont want a terrorist to be able to buy enriched uranium do we? We should put their names on a list.


EXACTLY!!!!!
Title: Re: The Media Anti's Are At It Again!
Post by: tombogan03884 on May 06, 2010, 01:38:33 AM
Yep.

They want to give the attorney general the right to ban anyone that he wants from owning firearms..... The problem with the bill is that it will make the AG the new Gun Czar. It puts no limitations or requirements on what the criteria is for making that decision would be..... it is totally up to the discretion of the AG and he can make the decision based on whatever he wants. Not only could he ban specific individuals, but he could make sweeping bans like say perhaps anyone know to be associated with the Tea Party (they are extremists after all) or everyone on the No-Fly list (there are countless law abiding citizens on that list... Hell, Ted Kennedy was on it for a while).

The left is screaming profiling and racism over the AZ thing, but this new gun law would be blatent discrimination.

Exit Question: How is the 2nd Amendment supposd to keep us safe from a tyrannical govt when govt makes all the rules that define gun ownership

Exit answer : when was the last time the laws of a Tyrant were worthy of obedience ?
Title: UPDATE: The Media Anti's Are At It Again!
Post by: ericire12 on May 07, 2010, 09:33:39 AM
Bloomberg was testifying before congress today and was using this as a reason to push for new firearm legislation (dont let a good crisis go to waste). He wants to close the "terrorist loophole"  and make it impossible for terroists to buy guns -- legally. He said that something like 1,000+ terrorists have bought a gun recently in this country and went on and on about how we have to keep them from getting guns.....

Did you catch that.... This dude drives a car bomb into Times Square and Bloomy wants to ban guns.... makes a lot of sense doesnt it.

If his statistic is even true, here is the REAL issue.... There are 1,000+ terrorists on U.S. soil! DO SOMEHTING ABOUT THAT! Dont focus your time and efforts on trying to keep them from buying a handgun or a rifle. If you know they are here and you know they have ties to terrorists, then ARREST THEM! Does he really think that a no-buy list is gonna stop some terrorist who is hell bent on getting a gun? Hey, maybe we should close the enriched uranium loophole and start a no-buy list for that stuff..... we dont want a terrorist to be able to buy enriched uranium do we? We should put their names on a list.

A the very least they should try to keep them from obtaining the items they need to make a bomb? But you will NEVER see a list of people not approved to buy propane or gasoline or cars..... that would be racist or something.



Update Video added.....

Title: Re: The Media Anti's Are At It Again!
Post by: MikeBjerum on May 07, 2010, 10:17:44 AM
"Terror gap in our gun laws"  If someone meets the criteria to not get a gun, I have no problem.  However, we have all seen too many times where the "Do Not Fly List" (DNFL) has failed in both missing the most flagrant of offenders, and when they have put six year olds that haven't even been tardy to kindergarten on the list. 

This tie to the DNFL is like linking gun sales to coffee shop gossip  >:(
Title: Re: The Media Anti's Are At It Again!
Post by: ericire12 on May 07, 2010, 10:24:16 AM
BTW..... according to the NY Times the stat Bloomberg used in his testimony -- 1,100 terrorists that bought guns -- is derived from 1,100 people on the No-Fly list making purchses.


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/07/opinion/07fri1.html
Title: Re: The Media Anti's Are At It Again!
Post by: PegLeg45 on May 07, 2010, 10:39:16 AM
BTW..... according to the NY Times the stat Bloomberg used in his testimony -- 1,100 terrorists that bought guns -- is derived from 1,100 people on the No-Fly list making purchses.


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/07/opinion/07fri1.html

And we all know how well-maintained and accurate that list is.......   >:(


Title: Re: The Media Anti's Are At It Again!
Post by: ericire12 on May 07, 2010, 12:54:16 PM
And we all know how well-maintained and accurate that list is.......   >:(

I think you could make the case the Ted Kennedy was a domestic terrorist
Title: Re: The Media Anti's Are At It Again!
Post by: Fatman on May 08, 2010, 08:51:16 PM
Someone should remind Hizzonner that by law, terrorist acts and murder of any kind are illegal. Using his own logic  we can conclude that laws banning or controlling guns to control those acts are not necessary, as laws previously passed have eliminated terrorism and murder.


Hey, Bloomie?

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