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Title: NY City car bomber had a Kel-Tec S-2000
Post by: ericire12 on May 06, 2010, 08:32:36 AM
http://www.saysuncle.com/2010/05/06/speaking-of-the-bombers-gun/#comments

http://larrycorreia.wordpress.com/2010/05/05/ask-correia-2-writing-gun-stuff/
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It is fearsome looking, a carbine hybrid of a pistol and a long gun with a mouthful of a name: the Kel-Tec Sub Rifle 2000. Mr. Shahzad bought it, new, in March for about $400. It was found in the Isuzu Trooper that he drove to Kennedy International Airport on Monday, loaded, with multiple extra clips.
Title: Re: NY City car bomber had a Kel-Tec S-2000
Post by: MikeBjerum on May 06, 2010, 10:28:28 AM
"fearsome looking"  Lions and tiger and bears ... OH MY!

"multiple extra clips"  Sick em Haz!

Spin baby spin ... this will turn out to be all about guns soon!
Title: Re: NY City car bomber had a Kel-Tec S-2000
Post by: Pathfinder on May 06, 2010, 10:32:38 AM
"fearsome looking"  Lions and tiger and bears ... OH MY!

"multiple extra clips"  Sick em Haz!

Spin baby spin ... this will turn out to be all it's already about terrorists buying guns here soon!
Title: Re: NY City car bomber had a Kel-Tec S-2000
Post by: ericire12 on May 06, 2010, 10:36:39 AM
this will turn out to be all about guns soon!

Bloomberg was in front of congress yesterday pushign hard for it:
http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=12461.msg161983#msg161983
Title: Re: NY City car bomber had a Kel-Tec S-2000
Post by: tombogan03884 on May 06, 2010, 11:04:58 AM
"It is fearsome looking, a carbine hybrid of a pistol and a long gun with a mouthful of a name: the Kel-Tec Sub Rifle 2000. Mr. Shahzad bought it, new, in March for about $400. It was found in the Isuzu Trooper that he drove to Kennedy International Airport on Monday, loaded, with multiple extra clips.

So what ? Even after trying to bomb Times Square this guy has never committed a crime involving fire arms.
Title: Re: NY City car bomber had a Kel-Tec S-2000
Post by: ericire12 on May 06, 2010, 11:30:15 AM
"It is fearsome looking, a carbine hybrid of a pistol and a long gun with a mouthful of a name: the Kel-Tec Sub Rifle 2000. Mr. Shahzad bought it, new, in March for about $400. It was found in the Isuzu Trooper that he drove to Kennedy International Airport on Monday, loaded, with multiple extra clips.

So what ? Even after trying to bomb Times Square this guy has never committed a crime involving fire arms.

If anything we should be looking to ban Isuzu Troopers...... They are so big and fearsome looking ::)
Title: Re: NY City car bomber had a Kel-Tec S-2000
Post by: Hazcat on May 06, 2010, 11:49:38 AM
"fearsome looking"  Lions and tiger and bears ... OH MY!

"multiple extra clips"  Sick em Haz!

Spin baby spin ... this will turn out to be all about guns soon!

I would but of course the liberal rag doesn't have a comments section.  They can't stand to hear the truth!
Title: Re: NY City car bomber had a Kel-Tec S-2000
Post by: Rastus on May 07, 2010, 06:29:53 AM
THE SKY IS FALLING THE SKY IS FALLING.

A Kel-Tec....just think, if he had 1/2 a brain and had bought the right kind of fertilizer we could all be talking about the Kel-Tec right now and how dangerous it is.  

I think we ought to outlaw fertilizer.  ;)   We can grow everything naturally then....right?  Register fertilizer, license it's users, track the purchases, put jackboots on the ground to make certain it is securely stored and utilized, tax it out of existence, tax the spreaders and track them too, no one will miss it.  Mayor Bloomberg, how about outlawing fertilizer first.....would it be cool to see him work that angle or what?  Somebody oughta tell him, he might bite.....Bloomberg the Buffoon.
Title: Re: NY City car bomber had a Kel-Tec S-2000
Post by: Solus on May 07, 2010, 07:55:08 AM
THE SKY IS FALLING THE SKY IS FALLING.

A Kel-Tec....just think, if he had 1/2 a brain and had bought the right kind of fertilizer we could all be talking about the Kel-Tec right now and how dangerous it is.  

I think we ought to outlaw fertilizer.  ;)   We can grow everything naturally then....right?  Register fertilizer, license it's users, track the purchases, put jackboots on the ground to make certain it is securely stored and utilized, tax it out of existence, tax the spreaders and track them too, no one will miss it.  Mayor Bloomberg, how about outlawing fertilizer first.....would it be cool to see him work that angle or what?  Somebody oughta tell him, he might bite.....Bloomberg the Buffoon.


Outlaw fertilizer??  Some chance...it is 90% of  his output....
Title: Re: NY City car bomber had a Kel-Tec S-2000
Post by: crusader rabbit on May 07, 2010, 07:58:10 AM
I think we need to ban everything that can possibly harm anyone at any time.  Ban SUVs.  Ban fertilizer.  Ban Kel-Tecs.  Ban Spandex.  Ban everything.  Then, the human race will quickly die off and we can leave the planet to the insects and animals as God intended... 

Wait...

What???

God made the human race???

Okay.  Let's just ban Bloomberg.  Yeah.  That's the ticket.

Blaming guns for crime is like blaming doughnuts for Rosey O'Donnel
Title: Re: NY City car bomber had a Kel-Tec S-2000
Post by: ericire12 on May 07, 2010, 08:04:01 AM
Blaming guns for crime a car bombing is like blaming doughnuts for Rosey O'Donnel

 ;)
Title: Re: NY City car bomber had a Kel-Tec S-2000
Post by: Paraguy on May 07, 2010, 08:20:05 AM
We must not forget to also ban the APT..................
You know, Assault Propane Tank.  The one used in the crime was allegedly painted black rendering it an APT.  Further supporting that case, the APT was outfitted with a quarter turn valve and was filled with +P ammunition (added pressure propane.)  The tank was also a high capacity version holding 6 gallons which actually held 6.5 gallons being the +P version.  When an APT like this is placed in a grill with electronic ignition (or an Isuzu,) there is no way to measure the evil that it can unleash on society; they must ban all APTs to prevent more senseless loss of lives!
Title: Re: NY City car bomber had a Kel-Tec S-2000
Post by: crusader rabbit on May 07, 2010, 08:25:41 AM
We must not forget to also ban the APT..................
You know, Assault Propane Tank.   The one used in the crime was allegedly painted black rendering it an APT.  Further supporting that case, the APT was outfitted with a quarter turn valve and was filled with +P ammunition (added pressure propane.)  The tank was also a high capacity version holding 6 gallons which actually held 6.5 gallons being the +P version.  When an APT like this is placed in a grill with electronic ignition (or an Isuzu,) there is no way to measure the evil that it can unleash on society; they must ban all APTs to prevent more senseless loss of lives!

Wow, I can't believe I overlooked that.  Thanks for pointing this out, Paraguy.   ;)  And I hadn't even thought about it being allegedly black. Isn't that racist, or something?
Title: Re: NY City car bomber had a Kel-Tec S-2000
Post by: MikeBjerum on May 07, 2010, 08:48:54 AM
Time to test old memories:

How many here remember the 70's and 80's when the big push was on to ban "Saturday Night Specials?"  No concern over type, style, power, caliber, accuracy ...  All they were concerned about was price and affordability.  KelTec is a proven reliable and durable firearm, they have designs being copied by others, and they do it for a low price.  Bare with me here ... Does anyone visualize the "KelTec Bill" speeding through Congress to protect us all from the proliferation of firearms so cheep that you can get them in a box of Cracker Jack?  Not to mention the certain amendment to limit the number of "clips" a person can own ... I can here Office Max and Staples screaming discrimination already ... our only hope  ;)
Title: Re: NY City car bomber had a Kel-Tec S-2000
Post by: Paraguy on May 07, 2010, 09:05:57 AM
M58, isn't it true that we can't buy short barrel rifles or have a foregrip on long barrel pistols because they appear to be "gangster?"  That is fallout from the Al Capone days where they were trying to do something about the problem and those types of weapons were associated with gangsters at the time.  Unfortunately, there is a legacy of putting in a lot of anti-gun bills with some of them sticking.  Surely, this will be an excuse to ban a high caliber, low cost pistol like the Kel-tec.
Good news, if any is that these fears over banning weapons give me a great excuse to expand my collection "just in case."
Title: Re: NY City car bomber had a Kel-Tec S-2000
Post by: MikeBjerum on May 07, 2010, 09:20:05 AM
I've been wondering for a couple years how they have slipped the bullpups past the gun haters.  My skeptical mind says that somehow they have to be wringing their hands over how they can tie it to anyone of the many bans in the past.  I understand how they are legal, but that has never stopped an anti or their attorney in the past.
Title: Re: NY City car bomber had a Kel-Tec S-2000
Post by: ericire12 on May 07, 2010, 09:22:34 AM
I've been wondering for a couple years how they have slipped the bullpups past the gun haters.  My skeptical mind says that somehow they have to be wringing their hands over how they can tie it to anyone of the many bans in the past.  I understand how they are legal, but that has never stopped an anti or their attorney in the past.

Ask one of those loony liberal gun haters what a bullpup is and then watch the look of confusion on their face. ;D
Title: Re: NY City car bomber had a Kel-Tec S-2000
Post by: Paraguy on May 07, 2010, 09:33:29 AM
And the Kel-Tec Bullpup is an amazing piece of equipment!
Title: Re: NY City car bomber had a Kel-Tec S-2000
Post by: MikeBjerum on May 07, 2010, 10:19:23 AM
And the Kel-Tec Bullpup is an amazing piece of equipment!

But But But ... It is affordable and scary black and and and plastic, so we'll never be able to know who is carrying it on an airplane  :'(
Title: Re: NY City car bomber had a Kel-Tec S-2000
Post by: PegLeg45 on May 07, 2010, 10:35:58 AM
OOOOoooooooooooohhhhhh no, scary, scary.....my knees are shaking as I type this.

Be afraid of the big bad Kel-Tec....

(http://www.kel-tec-cnc.com/images/sub2000/pic1.jpg)

(http://www.kel-tec-cnc.com/images/sub2000/pic2.jpg)

Never mind being afraid of the truck bomb....(thank goodness for ineptitude).



Doomberg, oops, I mean Bloomberg = Left-wing Fear-monger, oops, I mean Idiot.


>:(
Title: Re: NY City car bomber had a Kel-Tec S-2000
Post by: Hazcat on May 07, 2010, 11:10:05 AM


Doomberg, oops, I mean Bloomberg = Left-wing Fear-monger, oops, I mean Idiot.


>:(

You keep being redundant!

;D
Title: Re: NY City car bomber had a Kel-Tec S-2000
Post by: shooter32 on May 07, 2010, 11:16:58 AM
You keep being redundant!

;D

Peg is on a roll today!!!  ;D
Title: Re: NY City car bomber had a Kel-Tec S-2000
Post by: fullautovalmet76 on May 07, 2010, 12:44:18 PM
What if he had a 1911? Oh...My.....God.....!!!
Title: Re: NY City car bomber had a Kel-Tec S-2000
Post by: ericire12 on May 07, 2010, 12:47:56 PM
What if he had a 1911? Oh...My.....God.....!!!

Evil fighting handgun designed for world wars and trench warfare..... it only belongs on a battlefield. ::)
Title: Re: NY City car bomber had a Kel-Tec S-2000
Post by: tt11758 on May 07, 2010, 12:51:28 PM
Ask one of those loony liberal gun haters what a bullpup is and they watch the look of confusion on their face. ;D


They'll think it's a baby bulldog.
Title: Re: NY City car bomber had a Kel-Tec S-2000
Post by: tt11758 on May 07, 2010, 12:52:24 PM
Evil fighting handgun designed for world wars and trench warfare..... it only belongs on a battlefield. ::)

Been on the streets of NYC lately?  It IS a frickin battlefield!!
Title: Re: NY City car bomber had a Kel-Tec S-2000
Post by: fightingquaker13 on May 09, 2010, 08:12:09 AM
If only there were a law against building bombs and blowing pople up! Damn gun show loophole!
FQ13
Title: Re: NY City car bomber had a Kel-Tec S-2000
Post by: MikeBjerum on May 09, 2010, 09:59:54 AM
If only there were a law against building bombs and blowing pople up! Damn gun show loophole!
FQ13

I know this was a sarcastic post, but along with there being laws against these activities as supporters of the Second Amendment and its true meaning do we want to push laws to forbid the ability to construct, maintain and use ALL tools available for the defense of our nation?   Nibble nibble nibble ... no supressors .... nibble nibble nibble ... no full auto ... nibble nibble nibble ... no magazines over a certain capacity ... nibble nibble nibble ... no firearms over a certain caliber ... nibble nibble nibble ... no bomb making supplies ... nibble nibble nibble ... no reloading supplies ... nibble nibble nibble ... no knives over a certain blade length ... nibble nibble nibble ... no shotguns with a barrel less than so many inches ... nibble nibble nibble ... no long guns with folding or pistol grip only stock ... nibble nibble nibble ... no walking sticks with concealed blade ... nibble nibble nibble ... no concealed firearms ... nibble nibble nibble ... no folding knives with spring activation ... nibble nibble nibble ...

Permits, licenses, tax stamps, education, special consideration, etc., none of these make limitations on our Bill of Rights or the Constitution fine and dandy!

Rant suspended for church attendance and Mother's Day dinner.
Title: Re: NY City car bomber had a Kel-Tec S-2000
Post by: Fatman on May 09, 2010, 11:09:45 AM
But But But ... It is affordable and scary black and and and plastic, so we'll never be able to know who is carrying it on an airplane  :'(

Don't worry, no one will. There are signs at the Newark airport telling you to put your bombs and guns back in your car as it's illegal to take them on planes. Fine print must say 'terrorists are excluded from this prohibition', else they wouldn't bring such things on board either.