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Member Section => Handguns => Topic started by: ericire12 on May 14, 2010, 07:47:43 AM
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http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2010/05/14/ruger-lcr-357/
Caliber .357 Magnum
Capacity 5
Barrel Length 1.88"
Finish Blackened Stainless
Front Sight Replaceable, Pinned Ramp
Rear Sight U-Notch Integral
Width 1.28"
Weight 17.10 oz.
Twist 1|16" RH
Grips Hogue Tamer
Overall Length 6.50"
Height 4.50"
MSRP (Price) $575.00
Available June
Also on the blog:
http://www.downrange.tv/blog/?p=3268
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Interesting! I was expecting to see a 6-shot version of the LCP in .327, that would have been different and unique in the space.
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http://gunblast.com/NewRugers.htm
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HO HUM...the .327 will probably be next even though it should have come before the .357.
JMHO
Richard
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HO HUM...the .327 will probably be next even though it should have come before the .357.
JMHO
Richard
Why? Just curious. I mean the .327 seems like an interesting caliber, but .357 seems to give you a whole lot more versatility.
FQ13
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I'm shocked to here this, as I had heard Ruger said the Magnums pressure levels were to high for the LCR. :-\
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I'm shocked to here this, as I had heard Ruger said the Magnums pressure levels were to high for the LCR. :-\
Budget cuts. Why hire beta testers when you have gun nuts too dumb to ask this question and too proud to sue if it gets answered the hard way? ;)
FQ13 who will gladly sign up for this program and sign a waiver, if they send me one of their ARs or GP 100s (their choice) along with the .357 LCR. ;D
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fq, I am not an expert on this and have not fired a LCR yet but from reports the .327 is a very good round and would be at home in a 6 shot LCR. I know it is not a .357 and I also know I wouldn't want to shoot it in any LW snubby!
JMHO
Richatd
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Given the choice of added pressure chamber or 20% greater capacity, I would take the extra shot in case I needed it. Also, with a snubby felt recoil is important for getting off a critical next shot, another area where the .327 would be an advantage. If I knew that I could get off the first shot perfectly every time, in a stressful condition, then the .357 makes sense. I do not know that I could ace the first shot every time so would rather put myself in a position where I could take more shots and get them off faster. But that is me and your experience may dictate a different approach.
No need to respond "Glock" cause we see that coming down the tracks like a 2 mile long locomtoive going 50Mph with the horn wide open!
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I'm shocked to here this, as I had heard Ruger said the Magnums pressure levels were to high for the LCR. :-\
This frame is stainless steel vs. aluminum alloy. It isn't the same gun hence the extra weight.
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Nah paraguy. I like revolvers. And .357 is my favorite flavor largely because I can shoot .38s or even 9mm (with a seperate cylinder) out of them. Can't beat it for versatility. One gun, three calibers, all common ammo, and all enough to do the job. Two words, bugout bag. ;D Now, if they figure out a way to cycle .357 magnum and .38 through a Glock.........
FQ13 who is in a happy place thinking about it ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Given the choice of added pressure chamber or 20% greater capacity, I would take the extra shot in case I needed it. Also, with a snubby felt recoil is important for getting off a critical next shot, another area where the .327 would be an advantage.
True, I've been doing a bit of training doing doubles and triples with my .357. I've found they're darn hard to manage with full power loads, first shot is dead on at 20-25 feet, second one? Sometimes off the paper, sometimes not. As a result, I've been loading .38 +P and shooting more. My snub weighs in at 25 ounces, the problem is the RE-GRIP after the first shot. Depending, you might have to take an extra half second to get a firm grasp before you press the next shot off. The small grip surfaces on these little guns makes that a bit dicey.
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True, I've been doing a bit of training doing doubles and triples with my .357. I've found there darn hard to manage with full power loads, first shot is dead on at 20-25 feet, second one? Sometimes off the paper, sometimes not. As a result, I've been loading .38 +P and shooting more. My snub weighs in at 25 ounces, the problem is the RE-GRIP after the first shot. Depending, you might have to take an extra second to get a firm grasp before you press the next shot off. The small grip surfaces on these little guns makes that a bit dicey.
If I had not been a complete and utter jack ass and traded my Bond derringer, it would have .38 +P in the top barrell and .357 in the the bottom for just thet reason. I would maybe think about doing so in your revolver. 2 or three .38s, the rest .357. Because by the time you fire the third shot, you're in F it mode anyway. I'm not sure I think this is a good idea, just wanted to put it out there. Guys who shoot IDPA and such probably have the answer.
FQ13
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If I had not been a complete and utter jack ass and traded my Bond derringer, it would have .38 +P in the top barrell and .357 in the the bottom for just thet reason. I would maybe think about doing so in your revolver. 2 or three .38s, the rest .357. Because by the time you fire the third shot, you're in F it mode anyway. I'm not sure I think this is a good idea, just wanted to put it out there. Guys who shoot IDPA and such probably have the answer.
FQ13
Either that or get one of those squishy balls and build up my wrists and forearms to the size of my avatars. ;D
Actually, I've been looking for an excuse to buy another gun anyway. The SP101 was a gun I couldn't pass up because of the price at the time but it gets pretty darn heavy to hump around in a front pocket all day. I heard a nasty rumor that the LCP might get approved in MA or I could grab one of the LCR in June in .357 mag. More than a half pound of weight savings and no trade off on first shot capability.
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I'd be interested....more weight + longer ejector rod= better for .38+P loads....
....and it can shoot .357's in a pinch!..... 8)
...but I'm still waiting for my LCR 3" .22lr/.22MAG kit gun.... ;D
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Either that or get one of those squishy balls and build up my wrists and forearms to the size of my avatars. ;D
Actually, I've been looking for an excuse to buy another gun anyway. The SP101 was a gun I couldn't pass up because of the price at the time but it gets pretty darn heavy to hump around in a front pocket all day. I heard a nasty rumor that the LCP might get approved in MA or I could grab one of the LCR in June in .357 mag. More than a half pound of weight savings and no trade off on first shot capability.
I'd be more interested in whether the G-26 or the keltec .32 was approved. The Glock is just a better gun in a better caliber and that little .32 is all but invisible and has a great reputation for reliability. I consider 9mm to be a compromise caliber anyway. .380? Why? Oh, yeah, so you can go broke buying ammo. ;D The .32 is pushing the border of barely good enough, but damn its small. Just my .02 Not looking (really, really not looking) to start a caliber debate. Just advice to a friend.
FQ13
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No on the Glock 26 or 27 or 30 or 36. All Glocks are factory refurbs form LE givebacks in MA. Not too many PD's are gonna carry subcompacts. No on the Kel-Tec either, just not gonna happen. If it wasn't here in 1994 it's not gonna be had NEW!
The LCP is for deep concealment but a revolver is boringly dependable and simple to operate for the leave home gun for the wife in a pinch.
Or, I could just move to CT and buy any frigging gun I wanted which is more the plan lately. Just waiting to hear from a potential employer.
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Sucks about your laws. But I guess I am going to wade gingerly, and casting no aspersions, into the caliber debate. Its just that as far as the LCP goes, here's my take. Its a Ruger, solid, dependable (though their revolvers have always been better than their pistols), affordable and derived from someone else's design that they have slightly improved upon. Its the Chevy of guns. Nothing wrong with it, just a lot of things it could do better (and I own two, it would have been four last year). Still, .380? Its not going to be much slimmer than a 9mm, has fewer ammo choices and is a weaker caliber, plus its expensive to feed. Why own one? To me me, .380 is to 9mm what .40 is to .45 (more accurately from an historical perspective, what .40 is to 10mm, but for practical purposes we'll go with .45). I just don't see the up side of this gun. Nice yes, good enough probably, but I'd rather carry a .357 or a tiny .32 if I couldn't find a 9mm or .40 or .45 to my liking. Just my .02.
FQ13
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I'm glad to see the LCR coming in .357. I like .357 because of the ammo versatility. (Which is why my ALWAYS pocket gun is a .357 and not a .38 SPL.) Ruger listened to the masses on this one. All the folks like me who said "If it came in .357 I'd probably buy one." ;D And I probably will someday.
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too....much....gun....
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I'd buy it. I have three Ruger revolvers in .357 magnum. Love them all...even the 3" SP101! It's not next on the list probably because Kalifornia won't list it right away and I'll have to wait for someone to move into California and sell it to me.
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A little off topic but it shocks me that most "average" Americans have no idea how restrictive the ownership laws are in MA, CA and some other places. I guess I'm a bit spoiled being in FL but I used to think things were bad here until I spent some time on various message boards.
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A little off topic but it shocks me that most "average" Americans have no idea how restrictive the ownership laws are in MA, CA and some other places. I guess I'm a bit spoiled being in FL but I used to think things were bad here until I spent some time on various message boards.
What is bad about Fl. gun laws? You can buy anything that doesn't require a class III permit. I got my CCW without taking the class by submitting the certificate from a hunter's safety course I took when I was ten (I had other ways to get it, but this one amused me). Once you have the CCW you can carry any sort of weapon you want, guns, knives, Mexican rocks etc as long as its concealed and you aren't on government property (or a few other areas) or in a bar. What is not to like?
FQ13
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What is bad about Fl. gun laws? You can buy anything that doesn't require a class III permit. I got my CCW without taking the class by submitting the certificate from a hunter's safety course I took when I was ten (I had other ways to get it, but this one amused me). Once you have the CCW you can carry any sort of weapon you want, guns, knives, Mexican rocks etc as long as its concealed and you aren't on government property (or a few other areas) or in a bar. What is not to like?
FQ13
I wasn't really referring to FL's gun laws, just specifically general issues stemming from a fairly inept state government. FL does have some pretty decent gun laws although when I moved out of state for a few years and gave up my FFL ever since I moved back I haven't been able to get it approved by FDLE without a bricks and mortar firearms business specific location but at least half the states are this way. I was just commenting that even with all FL's issues at least gun ownership isn't really one of them and it could be a lot worse.