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Title: Bottle Bombs!
Post by: JC5123 on June 02, 2010, 02:19:57 PM
Another one of those Macgyver tricks to stuff under your hat in case of emergency?

http://www.snopes.com/crime/warnings/bottlebomb.asp
Title: Re: Bottle Bombs!
Post by: fightingquaker13 on June 02, 2010, 02:37:42 PM
Another one of those Macgyver tricks to stuff under your hat in case of emergency?

http://www.snopes.com/crime/warnings/bottlebomb.asp
Thanks JC
I now know what not to ever, ever do, even in event of civil unrest the Zombie invasion. Thanks, otherwise I might have tried this at home, and it would be so very very wrong. ;D
FQ13 who really loves the net
Title: Re: Bottle Bombs!
Post by: ratcatcher55 on June 02, 2010, 03:42:11 PM
What kind of red blooded American boy has not made an explosive device?
Title: Re: Bottle Bombs!
Post by: Big Frank on June 02, 2010, 03:47:05 PM
One of the neighbor kids told me how to make a Works bomb several years ago. I'm surprised it took this long for more people to be aware of them. Dry ice and hot water makes a good bomb too.
Title: Re: Bottle Bombs!
Post by: fightingquaker13 on June 02, 2010, 03:48:25 PM
What kind of red blooded American boy has not made an explosive device?
Making bombs is like masturbating to a stolen Penthouse. There are two kinds of teenage boys. Those who do it, and those who are discreet enough to lie about it. ;D
FQ13
Title: Re: Bottle Bombs!
Post by: jnevis on June 02, 2010, 04:01:21 PM
We did the same thing with pool shock and brake fluid as part of an Expolsive recognition class.  The first one was just a pile of it and it burned like a road flare.  The second one we used a WATER bottle which popped over the fence 10 feet away when it went off.  If we had used a soda bottle the sugars would have accelerated the reaction and we may not have had time to get away before it went off.

Of note, there are two types of shock.  One it works the other it doesn't.  That's as much as I'll say. ;D :-X

We also spent a couple days on improvised munitions and all the places you can get the components.  DAMN, I'll never see the grocery store the same way again.
Title: Re: Bottle Bombs!
Post by: fightingquaker13 on June 02, 2010, 04:06:45 PM
Of note, there are two types of shock.  One it works the other it doesn't.  That's as much as I'll say. ;D :-X

We also spent a couple days on improvised munitions and all the places you can get the components.  DAMN, I'll never see the grocery store the same way again.
So your next, no doubt lengthy, post advising us of all the things we should never buy and combine in the specifed amounts will be coming when? ;)
FQ13
Title: Re: Bottle Bombs!
Post by: Ichiban on June 02, 2010, 04:20:56 PM
Bored teen-aged boys are always trouble.

These are pretty popular with that crowd around here, although I don't think they use caustic material and tend to target mailboxes.  Needless to say the local constabulary is not amused.

Back in the day, my friends used to toss a small black powder bomb into a farmer's mailbox and hook a bent mail through the lock hole on the handle.  That usually did the trick.  Not that I even witnessed it first hand - just heard stories about it.   :-X

Title: Re: Bottle Bombs!
Post by: alfsauve on June 02, 2010, 05:09:27 PM
Strictly for scientific purposes you understand.  Part of our "Professor" series

http://s252.photobucket.com/albums/hh20/alfsauve/?action=view&current=ExplosionShort.flv (http://s252.photobucket.com/albums/hh20/alfsauve/?action=view&current=ExplosionShort.flv)

Actually, we wanted to put it inside a hollowed out pumpkin for an even more impressive effect, but it was summer and we didn't have any.




Title: Re: Bottle Bombs!
Post by: billt on June 03, 2010, 11:36:16 AM
The problem with a lot of this stuff is the ATF regards it as an explosive device, and stiff penalties come along with them if you're caught. I know dry ice "bombs" also fit into that category. Not that any radical muslims would use 'em.   Bill T.
Title: Re: Bottle Bombs!
Post by: red364 on June 03, 2010, 12:45:05 PM
Strictly for scientific purposes you understand.  Part of our "Professor" series

http://s252.photobucket.com/albums/hh20/alfsauve/?action=view&current=ExplosionShort.flv (http://s252.photobucket.com/albums/hh20/alfsauve/?action=view&current=ExplosionShort.flv)

Actually, we wanted to put it inside a hollowed out pumpkin for an even more impressive effect, but it was summer and we didn't have any.


Killer bow tie       :)


Title: Re: Bottle Bombs!
Post by: alfsauve on June 03, 2010, 07:35:34 PM

Killer bow tie       


Just FYI:  That isn't me in the video, but a character actor we employed.  I was however behind the camera doing the close up.    (Actually not all that close.)

Title: Re: Bottle Bombs!
Post by: PegLeg45 on June 03, 2010, 10:38:07 PM
Those silver heating pads that used to come in military grade MRE's, when torn into thin strips and dropped into a 2 liter Coke bottle with 8 or so ounces of water will make a very big BOOM.

Don't ask me how I know......I just know.

Title: Re: Bottle Bombs!
Post by: Big Frank on June 04, 2010, 03:54:13 PM
MRE heater bombs are better when you dump a bottle of tabasco in with the water.  ;)
Title: Re: Bottle Bombs!
Post by: PegLeg45 on June 04, 2010, 09:22:09 PM
MRE heater bombs are better when you dump a bottle of tabasco in with the water.  ;)

Hell, I reckon so!!  ;D
Title: Re: Bottle Bombs!
Post by: Big Frank on June 04, 2010, 09:46:37 PM
Poor man's tear gas. hehehe
Title: Re: Bottle Bombs!
Post by: philw on June 05, 2010, 03:53:55 AM
ahh    a kids right of passage

surviving with ALL there fingers


Chlorine + Brake Fluid

Sodium in water

Sparkers crushed up  + Soda Bulbs    ;D  they are fun

Ammonium Nitrate + Diesel.
Title: Re: Bottle Bombs!
Post by: Pathfinder on June 05, 2010, 05:53:00 AM
ahh    a kids right of passage

surviving with ALL there fingers


Chlorine + Brake Fluid

Sodium in water

Sparkers crushed up  + Soda Bulbs    ;D  they are fun

Ammonium Nitrate + Diesel.


I had to throw this in. Years ago, our HS chemistry teacher was demonstrating the extreme exothermic (violent heat-producing) reaction of sodium in water. He carefully removed the nearly pure metalic sodium from the kerosene in which it was stored, shaved a few small bits off the chunk, and dumped them into a beaker with about 2 liters of water where the reaction made them skitter around a bit before being consumed. Cool.

Then, as the presentation progressed, and the teacher started asking questions, he picked the sodium up with the tongs, and went to put it back into the kerosene. Distracted, he put it into the water - the whole chunk. His reaction? "Get the hell out of here!"

The room was a combined classroom and chem lab with slate top counters in the lab, etc. A very large room. He was at one end. They found glass embedded at the far end of the room. Plus a large scorch mark on the ceiling directly over where the beaker had been.

Fun times indeed, and very educational.   ;D
Title: Re: Bottle Bombs!
Post by: Pathfinder on June 05, 2010, 05:53:57 AM
MRE heater bombs are better when you dump a bottle of tabasco in with the water.  ;)

Would that be the little bottles that come with the MREs?   ;)
Title: Re: Bottle Bombs!
Post by: alfsauve on June 05, 2010, 07:27:03 AM
ahh    a kids right of passage

surviving with ALL there fingers
Chlorine + Brake Fluid
Sodium in water
Sparkers crushed up  + Soda Bulbs    ;D  they are fun
Ammonium Nitrate + Diesel.

Ah, and cutting open those old large flash bulbs, then filling the remaining section with gun powder, from shotgun shells, and touching it to a car battery.

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 Wait, Wait.   I do the same thing now AT WORK, though I use commercial flash and smoke powder, but I call it "special effects" .
Title: Re: Bottle Bombs!
Post by: Solus on June 05, 2010, 08:38:46 AM
No one ever play with gasoline and tide laundry detergent?
Title: Re: Bottle Bombs!
Post by: Pathfinder on June 05, 2010, 08:43:14 AM
No one ever play with gasoline and tide laundry detergent?


Uh, no, what happens?
Title: Re: Bottle Bombs!
Post by: Majer on June 05, 2010, 09:17:20 AM
Napalm  :o :o
Title: Re: Bottle Bombs!
Post by: Fatman on June 05, 2010, 02:15:16 PM
Uh, no, what happens?

It sticks to kids.
Title: Re: Bottle Bombs!
Post by: fightingquaker13 on June 05, 2010, 02:22:53 PM
It sticks to kids.
ROFL! We used to sing that little ditty jogging through the yuppies on the Tow Path when I was Georgetown Army ROTC. They didn't seem to see the humor.
FQ13
Title: Re: Bottle Bombs!
Post by: Solus on June 06, 2010, 12:31:06 PM
My "gang" were making Molotov Cocktails ..just gasoline in a coke bottle with the usual rag in the next and throwing them at the central stone chimney of a city park woods shelter.

We were disappointed in the results as the gasoline would splash and make a nice big bunch of flames, but it would be over and done before any lasting fire could take root.

So we delved into mixing gasoline with Tide detergent.  Our Lore said that only Tide would work...we never went against Lore in those  days so I don't know it is was true or what made Tide unique.  I also don't know if Tide is all that will work today or if it will work at all.

Lore also called for heating the gasoline and mixing in the Tide.  We felt wise and very safety conscious when we realized we best use a hot plate rather than on open flame to warm our gasoline.  We got a nice jelled substance which we spooned into our bottle and used another saturated rag in the neck.

Well, we lit it and threw it against the same stone chimney.  It all lit and stuck in place creating enough heat to catch the wood and shingle roof on fire.  Burnt the whole roof off that shelter...

After the few moments of awe wore off, I, at least, did not feel much satisfaction in that destruction.  We never did make any more of those bombs.

Sometimes you just don't realize the true effect of your actions will bel....at least as a 14 year old...

 
Title: Re: Bottle Bombs!
Post by: blackwolfe on June 06, 2010, 02:51:27 PM
Not that I know first hand about any of this stuff, but I have heard that Naptha Soap Flakes work well.
The problem with the old right of passage with boys and bombs, is that now a lot of it falls under terrorism statutes.
Any body remember some of the ads or the stuff you could buy in the back of Popular Science magazine?  Of course when you combine some of this stuff with model rockets the real fun begins.  Had to get real creative sometimes to obtain some of the ingrediants, so a "laboratory" was created in order to purchase "stuff."  Those were some fun times, not that I have any first hand knowledge or experience, and I was not the one who built or set off the device in the high school bathroom.
Title: Re: Bottle Bombs!
Post by: fightingquaker13 on June 06, 2010, 03:41:38 PM
My "gang" were making Molotov Cocktails ..just gasoline in a coke bottle with the usual rag in the next and throwing them at the central stone chimney of a city park woods shelter.

We were disappointed in the results as the gasoline would splash and make a nice big bunch of flames, but it would be over and done before any lasting fire could take root.

So we delved into mixing gasoline with Tide detergent.  Our Lore said that only Tide would work...we never went against Lore in those  days so I don't know it is was true or what made Tide unique.  I also don't know if Tide is all that will work today or if it will work at all.

Lore also called for heating the gasoline and mixing in the Tide.  We felt wise and very safety conscious when we realized we best use a hot plate rather than on open flame to warm our gasoline.  We got a nice jelled substance which we spooned into our bottle and used another saturated rag in the neck.

Well, we lit it and threw it against the same stone chimney.  It all lit and stuck in place creating enough heat to catch the wood and shingle roof on fire.  Burnt the whole roof off that shelter...

After the few moments of awe wore off, I, at least, did not feel much satisfaction in that destruction.  We never did make any more of those bombs.

Sometimes you just don't realize the true effect of your actions will bel....at least as a 14 year old...

 


Terrorist! ;) Actually, the traditional recipie is two parts gasoline (for combustion), one part diesel (to prolong the burn time) and one part soap flakes or detergent (to make it stick). I learned this in High Schol from a teacher who fought in the '56 Hungarian uprising against the Sovs. He was pretty clear about the value of that, as well as  greasing the uphill slopes of cobblestone streets and smirking derisvely when someone asked about the difference between bolts and machine guns. "What difference? You aim, fire once and run away. You then do it again a block away.". Wise words.
FQ13
Title: Re: Bottle Bombs!
Post by: ratcatcher55 on June 07, 2010, 03:33:33 PM
We used to dissolve Styrofoam cups in the gasoline. It worked as a cheap thickening agent.