The Down Range Forum
Flying Dragon Productions ( Michael Bane ) => The Best Defense on My Outdoor TV => Topic started by: Michael Janich on June 11, 2010, 08:08:52 AM
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Thinking positively and hoping that OC will give us a shot at season 3, what would you guys like to see content-wise? I know there have been a few suggestion threads already (thanks!), but let's dig deeper. Also, what aspects of seasons 1 and 2 did you like best and want to see continued/expanded? Was there anything you absolutely hated that you don't want to see again?
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Stay safe,
Mike
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It would be great if you could devote some time to mindset. I know you have talked a lot about awareness but more about staying in the fight until it's over, even if injured.
The show is great and you all should be proud of the series.
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I would love to see an hour long show.
Not two 30 minute shows shoved into one time slot, but rather take the time to expand coverage of the situations and tactics that would normally be so limited because of the time constraints of a 30 minute show.
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I like anything that makes my wife want to watch. While I can always learn something new, or be open to having ideas reinforced, I feel (and my wife is beginning to realize) that she is unprepared and panic would freeze her in any situation. After a recent mid-day home invasion in a friends house (in our 6-year FBI's Safest City) my wife stated that we didn't have a plan. I informed her that I did and that I'd informed her of this plan on many occasions. Now, she's interested and I started her on Season 1, episode 1 of the DVDs. She's interested now and realizes that Irvine's safety bubble doesn't include a fence to keep bad guys out. I realize that you have to have balance to keep guys watching too, but that seemingly remedial stuff is awfully important to many of our families' safety. Keep it up and tell Outdoor that we still think this is still a vital show.
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How about a little more instruction for those individuals that have mobility issues. On a cane, wheelchair,,,etc.
Maybe even some sugestions on ways to conceal carry with mobility issues. Just my 2 cents worth.
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How about a little more instruction for those individuals that have mobility issues. On a cane, wheelchair,,,etc.
Maybe even some sugestions on ways to conceal carry with mobility issues. Just my 2 cents worth.
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Very good idea.
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First of all, great show! What would be helpful would be advice from (hopefully reformed) criminals on how to prevent becoming a victim and what would deter them or de-escalate a situation. Their first hand experience from that perspective might help us with our own best defense. I am sure you have interviewed many for just that reason, but personally, I would very much like to see you ask questions to better understand the criminals motives, fears and way of thinking. More importantly, to see your team of regulars and guest experts break down the responses and use that as a basis for techniques, practices and proper mindsets.
Keep up the great work! I buy stuff from Midway to support you (and cause it is good stuff and priced fairly.)
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Love the show I never miss it, but i would like to see more about what could be done if in the great outdoors. Maybe tools, how to handle an injury and over looked gear. I have seen people assume that nothing could go wrong outdoors and act as if they were in ther neighborhoods taking a walk. I'm more affraid of two legged predators than four legged one.
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Fortress Home Sweet Home
I guess this probably isn't in your scope, but I'd be interested in what types of stuff can be done to "fortify" a house short of bared windows and armored doors.
For instance one of my house window is on the front porch and aside from outside lighting I can't think of anything to block entry.
I also am a bit hearing impared and would like a non-subscription alarm system. Something wireless that could be self installed. I'd guess motion sensors at the right places...but don't know enough about how they work to determine what the right places are.
Also, some coverage of negotiating difficult home layouts. for instance, my bedroom is on the second floor and I've pretty much decided that there is nothing that would get me to go down those stairs should there be an intruder down there. Is there any way to keep your legs from getting shot to pieces? I guess it would be about as hard for that intruder to get up the steps with me sitting at the top waiting for them.
Also, "outside the box" types of internal home protection. We had a thread a long time ago and the use of strong lighting as a deterrent to prevent an intruder from entering a hallway. Any more of this?
Thanks
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Maybe show us inexpensive ways, to make house or apartment more impervious to break ins or home invasions. Not everyone can afford to put in a safe room, or if you live in an apartment, you might not be authorized to modify inside apartment and the cheep hollow doors that are inside. Not all of us can afford a house either.
But I love your show.
I just hope there will be a third season !!!!!!??????
Take Care,
Steve Fishman
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How about a little more instruction for those individuals that have mobility issues. On a cane, wheelchair,,,etc.
Maybe even some sugestions on ways to conceal carry with mobility issues. Just my 2 cents worth.
Add me to this as well.
I'm not into so much of the shooting through bookcases and refrigerator stuff. I'd prefer to see more variations on the day to day things we could encounter, and how we can best deal with them with the tools we have at hand ... I really need that, because I get to go into Iowa, North Dakota and Wisconsin, and they don't trust me and my "tools."
I would also like to see as much as possible on awareness and avoidance.
Here's hoping you have to fight through all these suggestions to do a season 3!
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not sure if this was covered in season 2
the person that travels a lot like the traveling sales person / rep / like you guys
people that go away camping / caravanning / motor homes and how to protect them selves
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On top of all of the other great ideas, maybe something on how to recognize when it's time to stop observing, talking, etc and when to start fighting, or shooting - and when it's appropriate to introduce a firearm into the contact. I don't know if there might be too many legal problems with advice in this area. ???
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Thanks to everyone for the great suggestions. Please keep them coming and keep your fingers crossed for a season 3.
BTW, Season 2 of The Best Defense: Survival will start airing in July. This season will be much more "nuts and bolts" oriented, showing simple, practical measures that you and your family can take to be better prepared. As always, we welcome your feedback and ideas on it as well.
Stay safe,
Mike
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More in-depth. If you can't focus in within one show due to format, do story arcs to piece it all together.
More CCW lessons: dealing with laptops/briefcases, toddlers, etc.
Interviews with bloggers and behavior experts (ex-cons was a GREAT idea). We get enough gear experts, what you have done is get the experts that most don't think of. Keep it up.
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Great Stuff... Thanks for the support and great ideas guys!
-Rob
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Great Stuff... Thanks for the support and great ideas guys!
-Rob
You notice no one said they wanted to see you in the 3rd season, did ya Rob. :P
*I was dead before I hit the "Post" button ;D
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You notice no one said they wanted to see you in the 3rd season, did ya Rob. :P
That was cold
unlike the coffee all over my keyboard
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More hair!
Less goatee!
More guns!
Less commercials!
Women!
Free beer!
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More Bane as the bad guy!!
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More Bane as the bad guy!!
Bane is always the bad guy. Just try working with him...
Stay safe,
Mike
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It'll be hard to top MB as the 'helpless victim, lying wounded in the doorway' from the bank episode from last season.....but I hope you guys give it a solid go.
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It would also be interesting to see if you could simulate how things look from the Good Guys perspective in a defensivve situation. I have read that you get tunnelvision and see things differently. Is there a way to show that simulated perspective based on first hand accounts and Hollywood magic, especially now that you are proven and hopefully have a better budget. Maybe discuss heart rate, hearing, vision, motor controls etc... Knowing this ahead of time and maybe tips from professionals on how to deal and react when this occurs could be good advice.
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Surprise me!
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Really loving the open hand techniques and situational awareness.
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Thanks to everyone for the great suggestions. Please keep them coming and keep your fingers crossed for a season 3.
BTW, Season 2 of The Best Defense: Survival will start airing in July. This season will be much more "nuts and bolts" oriented, showing simple, practical measures that you and your family can take to be better prepared. As always, we welcome your feedback and ideas on it as well.
Stay safe,
Mike
That's GREAT news!
When can we expect to be able to purchase DVD's of "The Best Defense" Season 2?
Thanks!
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Let's say a family is out on the open road going to or coming back from vacation. During the trip a terror attack or major earthquake or some other type of disaster happens. How should they prepare, what should they do , how can they get back home or should they even try? This could cover several shows as a segment in each Everyone talks about buggin out but not much is said about getting home with a family. And I really enjoyed the show about revolvers and being safe in the back country. Thanks
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How to practice open-hand & knife techniques @ home....
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What children should do in case their parent is involved in defending against an attack?
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I haven't had a chance to review much of season 2 yet so I apologize if these topics were covered, If so I'll have to watch the replay of it when it airs or pick up the dvd.
I'd like to see some more tactics involved when traveling. For instance you obviously can't have a pistol with you on an airplane. There are also times you may be traveling from state and state and enter one that is very non gun-friendly (Illinois), or could have someone that does not poses a CCW license so they carry their pistol in their car a different way with ammo separated and unloaded, locked up, etc. Some tips and tricks for those kind of situation would be great. Most international travel is going to involve not having a gun available, so topics on that would good as well.
Maybe some specific situational issues involving being in the south west and running into drug runners/cartel types. Also dealing with gangs and such while traveling through cities. Possibly expanding the idea from defending yourself from single or few attackers in many different situations to group mindsets should a worst case scenario happen and you find yourself in a bad areas of the country/world.
I know TBD survival covered this idea slightly, but say for example you get off the highway of a major city in the U.S. and find your self downtown in a gang territory where your threat awareness goes through the roof. Topics like that I think would work very well, both for teaching how to blend better and not draw attention but also defending yourself should a group attack occur.
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One thing I think the 3 of you need to address is how to deal with topics in any kind of meaningful depth given the magazine format show that seems to be all the rage these days. In the original concept for SG, Mr. Bane was able to explore topics for the entire show. With TBD/TBD:S, either by choice or direction from TOC, the magazine format for the show - plus the commercials limiting you to 22 minutes - seems to work against delving into any topic in depth.
The shows are very good as they are, you guys have done well in spite of the limited time for the show and format. Longer, or more in-depth/focused on a single topic would be better.
Just my $.02.
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Might be a good Idea to cover pharmacecuticals. For a worst case situation, people might like to know that antibiotics can be aquired from pet stores, diphenlydramine, (benadryl) is not just for hat fever and allergies, it is also common in motion sickness pills, sleep aids, and night time pain relievers. That makes it an over the counter sedative, among other uses. Ibuprofen may not be the best pain killer but it is a pain killer that is also an anti inflammatory. I can go on all day with examples like this, and I know not every one had the chance to serve as a combat medic or corpsman, so it might be interesting to teach them something that they can use in everyday life not just in a worst case scenario.
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Dear Michael J. ,
What I really want to see is " A SEASON 3 "
I know, it's not your fault.
But I'm just saying.
How can a network cancel a great show like this, and not provide funding so the show can go on????
Time slots B.S. and all !!!
Well, keep up the good work you guys are doing, on all your other shows, and hopefully, Best Defense won't have the same fate of the show called "American Shooter".
Good luck and God Bless.
Steve...
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I would really like to see some scenarios involving children. It is when I am out with my family that I feel must vulnerable. After all, everyone goes to the mall, you get separated. Or just the fact that my kids are too young to defend themselves. What would be some good strategies that we could implement help with cohesion in a crisis.
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One thing I thought of today that I would like to see on BD season 3: An episode or two dedicated to the mindset and psychological aspects of using lethal force. I know SWAT TV touched on this a bit, but it would be interesting to hear from people that have been involved in shootings, police and civilian, and how they felt at the time as well as suggestion for keeping your head on straight and dealing with the consequences. Maybe bring in a departments psychologist that can talk about common things they hear from officers after a shooting has occurred.
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One thing I thought of today that I would like to see on BD season 3: An episode or two dedicated to the mindset and psychological aspects of using lethal force. I know SWAT TV touched on this a bit, but it would be interesting to hear from people that have been involved in shootings, police and civilian, and how they felt at the time as well as suggestion for keeping your head on straight and dealing with the consequences. Maybe bring in a departments psychologist that can talk about common things they hear from officers after a shooting has occurred.
+1 to this idea too...good one.
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Any word yet on when we can purchase DVDs of Season 2? They will make GREAT Christmas presents!
Thanks.
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First off, tops on my Christmas wish list is for a 3rd season. Secondly, how about an episode on literature - fictional works, manuals ( military and civilian), any other reading material that might provide value.
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Another thing is an update to the fridge as cover-and use a gunsafe.
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Another entry to the wish list. How about an episode on survival communications, GRMS, CB, 2 meter Ham etc...
Thanks again guys for what you give us every week.
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Sitting in the bitter cold for the past few weeks I thought of another topic that could be discussed. I would assume the vast majority of CCW holders have to keep their firearm in the vehicle while at work. A few topics come to mind here.
One would be a scenario where you are at work and something goes wrong, your pistol is in your car. How should you best react to this? Escape to your vehicle and get to your firearm, at which time you return to face the threat, or do you wait for the police while your friends and co-workers may be in immediate danger?
Another topic in this same situation would be the weather factor. How do modern firearms, especially ccw pistols, react to temperature extremes compared to the climate controlled indoor range, and how do you compensate for whatever these conditions may be in either hot or cold extremes? Do regular lubrications work for temperature extremes, and if not what works best for this? Are there certain items that would be great to have available to you if your gun in extremely hot or extremely cold to touch and hold, such as fingerless gloves?
I think it was discussed in an episode before but it would be worth going over in this same episode if one was dedicated to this subject matter. Keeping your pistol safe in your vehicle while it sits outside all day, and doing so in multiple types of vehicles. Using the idea of the "truck gun" and having a safe way to keep it in your vehicle while traveling or moving about locally, regionally, or nationally.
Thank you guys for all you do! I hope to hit up an I.C.E. training course sometime in the near future.
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First off, I love the show, and am glad season 3 is coming out. The one thing I see people complain about on BD and BDS is the time, I know nothing can be done about that. But for BD in the episodes you always show multiple ways of doing the scenario, maybe cut down on the number. Show the bad and the good, and be done.
Love the close courters info. Also could shave off some time on the intro.
Glad to see the show is back. Thanks to Mike, Rob, and Mike, and all of the rest of the crew that brings us good info. I hope the shows continue! Happy new year.
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I would like to see more time dedictaed to the idea of fortifying the home and preparing for a Bug In Situation.
And perhaps segments on improvised self defense weapons and tactics.
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more of a How to See reply, but having Video On Demand content would be awesome. I realize that is more in the hands of OC, but would be great to be able to access multiple shows at anytime withoug having to store them all on a DVR
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Another entry to the wish list. How about an episode on survival communications, GRMS, CB, 2 meter Ham etc...
Thanks again guys for what you give us every week.
+1, too many people assume they will have cell phone coverage in an emergency.
My suggestion for season 3 is: Learning skills our grandparents had. These are things like canning, sewing, butchering, gardening/farming, etc stressing the importance of these simple tasks. Take canning for instance you could show your viewers how to can in one of your segments. This might be a bit gorier but how many of your viewers could butcher a deer and a chicken? Learn how to harvest non hybrid seeds. How to properly plant a garden and things you can do to keep rodents out. You could easily make an entire season out of these type of skills 95% of us don't have.
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Ways to defend yourself when pulling into your attached garage. I don't think anyone has covered that?
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First I want to say I love this show! It is the only show I really look forward to each week. I love the homemade targets and Mr. Bane's CC tips at the end. I only wish it was on all year round with no repeats.
Ok enough with the love fest.
Some ideas for season 4:
How to have a family meeting about what to do in given scenerios. How to assign roles, how to talk to your children (without scaring the hell out of them) and their roles in different situations.
I would like to see more on cover (like you did in Best Defense survival) and how different calibers affect cover.
I would love to see 1 hour episodes, 1 at the beginning of season 4 recapping season 3 and a 1 hour episode at the end of season 3 wrapping up all the best parts of season 3.
Last, use real life cases that happened and what they could have done differently for their best defense.
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Some ideas for season 4:
How to have a family meeting about what to do in given scenerios. How to assign roles, how to talk to your children (without scaring the hell out of them) and their roles in different situations.
I would like to see more on cover (like you did in Best Defense survival) and how different calibers affect cover.
I would love to see 1 hour episodes, 1 at the beginning of season 4 recapping season 3 and a 1 hour episode at the end of season 3 wrapping up all the best parts of season 3.
Last, use real life cases that happened and what they could have done differently for their best defense.
OK, so here goes. Short time listener, First time caller. I have really just finally decided to get off my butt and get prepared for the future of things. What with the impending zombie apocalypse coming and what not. (*Joke*)
Some of the things I have liked from the show repeats and the newest shows I have seen are the CC ratings by Midway's Larry and Bane's thoughts on CC pistols. I thought the segment on the ability for different rounds penetration into walls and where they can go was fantastic. More on things like this would invaluable. I agree with the quoted text here as well, how do I ease my family into the fact that I am going to CC everyday and the readiness and preparations we all will need to do to handle a crisis. I don't want to create undo drama in the house and scare everyone or have them think I snapped and have gone insane conspiracy theory on them. I have had a conceal carry license since before I got married 14 years ago and even had children. I have always been an avid hunter and had guns in the house, truck and have trained with these. The difference is now I will be armed on my person and just not in my car or the house. Also more on bug out bags, bug in supplies and how to meet if something does go wrong and we are apart. For example the kids are at school or a friends house, the wife is at work, and I am Hunting. In South Dakota we could be spread out over 200 miles or more and cell reception is already spotty in a lot of areas as is, so communications and a sound plan is a must. I realize this is somewhat of a specific scenario but I think it can be broken down and made generic enough to work for the show. Lastly the lawyer at the end is a great idea and would love to hear more examples of aftermath and rights according to the law and maybe some specific cases we can research and look up, BUT..... This guy has to go. I mean I feel like we are at the bar and have had several drinks and he decided to give some advice. I am sorry that me be harsh but he is so robotic and nervous he seems drunk. Just trying to be honest.
Thanks for the great work so far keep it up!
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+1, too many people assume they will have cell phone coverage in an emergency.
My suggestion for season 3 is: Learning skills our grandparents had. These are things like canning, sewing, butchering, gardening/farming, etc stressing the importance of these simple tasks. Take canning for instance you could show your viewers how to can in one of your segments. This might be a bit gorier but how many of your viewers could butcher a deer and a chicken? Learn how to harvest non hybrid seeds. How to properly plant a garden and things you can do to keep rodents out. You could easily make an entire season out of these type of skills 95% of us don't have.
+1K on this post.
I would like to know or have a little more knowledge on Summer CCW. I currently have my CCW and a multitude of weapons to choose from. BUT when I am running or bike riding I feel like I am exposed. I have very limited choices on where I can conceal my weapons just by nature of the clothing. There has GOT to be some more options out there.
I would also like to keep my wife engaged in the program. She, as well, has her CCW and likes to see tactics that women do / can use. She continually tells me the the physical aspects of tactics are very different between the genders. The mental aspects are similar but not always. I will have to take her word for it.
I also REALLY like the training scenarios that were presented with the boxes and balloons. I like the ideas that I can take into the field and practice. I am not made of money so these ideas that are inexpensive and actually CHALLENGE me are right up my alley.
I truly enjoy the shows that you guys put on and would love to come by and watch you guys put it on. I am in your Area of Operation quite often. I want a Season 3, 4, 5, etc... Keep doing what you are doing, because you are doing a service to many that has been overlooked for too long.
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JUST had an epiphany... Birds of a feather flock together... right? With that being said, Many if not most of my friends have their CCW's including my wife. I always see the single person being attacked or a single person reacting to the threat. In my situation there would be numerous people reacting to a threat. Hell I am in Wyoming where they just passed the CCW law that doesn't require a license. What happens where there are numerous people reacting to a threat? :-\
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Well this season is all done but I will still watch the repeats. I like at the end of Wednesdays episode Michael Bane talked about 9mm vs. 40s&w vs. 45 ACP. This has always been a long standing argument with my friends. The one thing we all agree on is 40s&w was never an option for any of us. I have always been a 9mm guy (easy to find ammo, price is much less than 45acp so I can practice more, higher capacity mags, less recoil for follow-up shots and the ballistic difference is so small). The rest of my friends are die hard 45acp and swear you only need one shot to take someone out.
I am curious what the rest of the DRTV members think: 9mm, 40 s&w or 45acp and why? :)
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>45 for me but I'm old school. A couple of things I'ld like to see. More situations in the home and with family members preasant. Also because I'm a gun lover, I often miss some of the info because I'm trying to figure out what gun Rob is using. My main interest is bugging in. With the way the economy is, we may have to bug in rather than bug out. Please more about prep. I havw grand kids that I will want to stay close to if the proverbial poo hits the fan.
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I'ld also like to see some escape and evasion tactics.
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Maybe an episode on daily carry items from a minimalist perspective? Things that carry be carried by male/female in blue jeans and shirt. Also would like to see an episode dedicated to people who want training but dont want sub-par training(what questions to ask/what to look out for).
Love the show
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We talk about Best defense about protecting ourselves from intruders, etc. How about how the best defense about having a child in our house get a gun. Maybe how best to store them in a night stand, in a closet. What are the best gun safes for main storage or those small ones for night stands, dressers.
We all get the locks that come with the guns, but try finding that key in the middle of the night if you locked up the gun so your child does not get to it. I have seen some small safes that look pretty interesting but be nice to get expert opinions on some.
Or best way to talk to a child about guns. take them to the range? show them the guns and tell them to stay away?
Those are some things that have popped into my head recently with a little one in the house.
Matt
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OK Here is another one. It has been long established that EVERYONE has to, at one time or another, use a public restroom. This is where a person is probably as vulnerable as anywhere else in the world. Pants down, skirt up, confined in a stall or crowded into a trough like area - whatever :o . This is where women and men get assaulted, raped, robbed and who knows what else. Situational awareness is great, but if your mind and hands are busy, the situation presents as down right nasty. Add to it that most of us CCW's in belt configuration of some sorts. The last thing you want to do is have your gun around your ankles in a position that you can't control it, or retain it. As a former Deputy, I have had to preach the "best way I have found" to many of my friends, however I am very open to other options and learning new ideas and methods. Game on...
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OK Here is another one. It has been long established that EVERYONE has to, at one time or another, use a public restroom. This is where a person is probably as vulnerable as anywhere else in the world. Pants down, skirt up, confined in a stall or crowded into a trough like area - whatever :o . This is where women and men get assaulted, raped, robbed and who knows what else. Situational awareness is great, but if your mind and hands are busy, the situation presents as down right nasty. Add to it that most of us CCW's in belt configuration of some sorts. The last thing you want to do is have your gun around your ankles in a position that you can't control it, or retain it. As a former Deputy, I have had to preach the "best way I have found" to many of my friends, however I am very open to other options and learning new ideas and methods. Game on...
I used to have that problem solved. I had an el cheapo Galco soft inside out IWB. The holster was basically a bag with a belt clip. I LOVED it. It was the comfiest thing I ever wore, but it didn't retain the pistol worth a damn. If I was on the head, the gun was in my hand because otherwise it was on the floor. Now that I replaced it with a Don Hume (a much better rig), I'm unarmed while on the crapper. ;D
FQ13
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I used to have that problem solved. I had an el cheapo Galco soft inside out IWB. The holster was basically a bag with a belt clip. I LOVED it. It was the comfiest thing I ever wore, but it didn't retain the pistol worth a damn. If I was on the head, the gun was in my hand because otherwise it was on the floor. Now that I replaced it with a Don Hume (a much better rig), I'm unarmed while on the crapper. ;D
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When I was still a LEO, they used to teach to place your weapon in "the basket" which is the area that your pants create as they are around your ankles. It keeps it closer, off the floor and more within reach / out of reach of others. But this is only good while sitting on the throne. If you are standing at a urinal or washing your hands (soap being a slippery substance) may put you at odds. Situational awareness is obviously your most proactive defense. I would like to know if there are more or better ways and reinforce old school ways to those that may not think about how vulnerable you are in a public restroom. Just my .02 :D
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Mike, I would like to see sceanarios with the following characters: Mother, Father, (30's-40's ish) 4 kids ranging form 4 to 13. How do I get my family out of the mall, bank, grocery store etc. with an active shooter/bomber/edged weapon hostage taker?
I believe we are more apt to be out in public with someone. Color code warning system at work. Walking out your front door and saying "okay honey, Yellow up." After dinner out, walking to the car spotting a potential threat and say "Orange 2 o'clock."
Does she break off for better coverage and making it a harder target or stick by your side. Then a weapon is spotted or a second actor is hiding and you move it to "RED!!! NINE AND THREE!!!"
What I have seen, and really enjoyed, have been one on one sceanarios mostly. To be able to add my family to the mix and get some outside the box ideas from the SME would be a life saver (literally).
Thats it for now. Take care and be safe. Joe Marsh