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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: twyacht on June 15, 2010, 05:51:48 PM
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I can't find an article that tells what type of rifle is being used.
1903 Springfield?
Some other type of bolt-action?
Garand?
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/business/kstu-corrections-prepares-for-gardner-execution,0,6561007.story
UTAH STATE PRISON —
The Utah Department of Corrections is releasing new details about how they'll carry out the June 18 execution of condemned killer Ronnie Lee Gardner. Prison officials are preparing for their first execution in more than 10 years. Gardner has said he wants to die by firing squad, a request that's already drawing global attention.
Corrections officials said Tuesday the execution will happen just after midnight June 18 in an execution chamber built in 1998. The chamber was last used for Joseph Mitchell Parsons, who died by lethal injection in 1999. Prosecutors, law enforcement and news media will witness Gardner's death.
"The inmate can actually request that a certain number of people be there. From his family, for example," said Steve Gehrke, a spokesman for the department. "We give certain rights to his attorney, and to his religious representatives to make sure that they can be there through the process for him."
Five corrections officers are selected by the department to be executioners. They will be stationed behind a brick wall with a portal cut out.
"Five guns, four of them are loaded, one has blanks," Gehrke said. "And the call is made. When the whole process is ready, there is a hood placed over the condemned's head."
A patch with a target will be pinned to his chest. Gardner will be given the chance to say some last words. Prison officials tell Fox 13 they will accommodate Gardner on requests like his last meal, which will be prepared at the prison. Condemned inmates are not allowed to donate organs. His personal effects will be given to whom he designates.
Gardner's pending execution is already drawing protests and prison staffers are preparing for global attention. Utah is the last state with the firing squad as a method of execution. The state officially did away with it as a method in 2004, but several inmates, including Gardner, are grandfathered in.
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Wiki had this about Gilmore....assume the same?
'Capital punishment was suspended in the United States between 1972 and 1976, as a result of several decisions of the United States Supreme Court (Furman v. Georgia, 408 U.S. 238). The process resumed with the execution of Gary Gilmore on January 17, 1977, at Utah State Prison in Draper. The five executioners were equipped with .30-30 caliber rifles and off-the-shelf Winchester 150 grain (9.7 g) SilverTip ammunition.'
Nothing on the actual rifle used..
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30-30? That'll do,....probably beef up to the 170gr. Core-Lokt SP's,.....though....
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I figured since no shooter knows who has the "blank", it would be another bolt action of vintage acclaim. Who knows,,, it could be an AR or M1-A type weapon, pre-loaded.
Just rack and roll on this scumbag. OBTW, the Human Rights Council, is all worked up... :-*
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yes...........30-30's
http://www.deseretnews.com/mobile/article/700026806/Firing-squad-vs-lethal-injection.html
When a judge signs a death warrant, the Department of Corrections begins what former corrections officials call "a massive undertaking."
Former Utah Department of Corrections director Gary DeLand planned three executions from the time he took over in 1987, although only two were actually carried out. He oversaw the execution of Pierre Dale Selby and Arthur Gary Bishop in 1987 and 1988, respectively.
He also planned a firing squad execution for Gardner in the late '80s, but two days before it was scheduled, the courts issued a stay.
When DeLand became head of corrections, it was nearly a decade after Gary Gilmore was executed by firing squad, marking the return of the death penalty in the United States after a 10-year ban.
"What I'd studied of the Gilmore situation was it had been pretty haphazard," said DeLand, who literally wrote the book on how to carry out a court-ordered execution in Utah. "I wrote a manual. … I think it ended up being about 3,000 or 4,000 pages long. We looked at every aspect of it. … We looked at everything you're supposed to do at every point along the way."
DeLand said it is a sobering but necessary part of the job to carry out a state-ordered execution.
Gardner actually came close to dying by firing squad in the late '80s. He said he wanted to abandon his appeals and a death warrant was signed. Two days before his scheduled execution, he changed his mind and sought help from the courts. A stay was issued and he has been fighting his execution since that time.
The firing squad is made up of five riflemen, all certified law enforcement officers.
"It has always been five 30-30 rifles," DeLand said. "We had to round some up because by the time we were planning Gardner's, the weapons in our towers were AR-15s."
It's a popular weapon used in hunting so officials had no trouble finding five rifles and no trouble finding five certified officers to pull the triggers. DeLand's deputy director interviewed and selected the officers who would act as executioners, which by statute is supposed to remain secret.
"It was quite a ballet trying to get the people who were participating in the execution into the prison without people seeing who they were," DeLand said.
The exercise included corrections officers picking up decoys, he said.
Four of the guns are loaded with live ammunition and one gun is loaded with a blank. The team prepared in order to fire the shot in unison.
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I never understood the "one has blanks" part. Whoever had the blank rounds would know it as soon as they pulled the trigger, because of the total absence of recoil. This is especially true in the Winchester 94 .30-30, and other like caliber weapons like the Marlin models. My Winchester Model 94 is quite light, and has a hefty recoil in .30-30. If this is to prevent any of the shooters from packing their bags and going on a guilt trip, it is only going to work for the one guy who had the blanks, and he'll know it as sure as the other 4 who didn't. Bill T.
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It's a popular weapon used in hunting so officials had no trouble finding five rifles and no trouble finding five certified officers to pull the triggers. DeLand's deputy director interviewed and selected the officers who would act as executioners, which by statute is supposed to remain secret.
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According to Gary Gilmores brother, there were FIVE holes in his shirt when they gave him the personal effects.
I guess they didn't want to take any chances.
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and no trouble finding five certified officers to pull the triggers
If these were 5 L.A cops, THEY'D PROBABLY MISS.
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Wonder if any one has been tempted to go for a head shot? The bag would contain the reminants at least.
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last time they used 4 mp5s, thier orders were to fire untill empty.
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last time they used 4 mp5s, thier orders were to fire untill empty.
In the words of the training officer who provided me with the opportunity to send a couple of hundred rounds down range with one, that is called a "Stance Test". ;D
i.e. If you pull the trigger until the weapon is empty and you have the proper stance, you will still be in it when done firing.
Oh BTW, that is a HELLACIOUS LOT of fun too!! ;D
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last time they used 4 mp5s, thier orders were to fire untill empty.
Where did you come up with that info?
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Looking forward to the answer on this question. Not the MP5's from TAB, but the actual rifle and caliber used.
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It never ceases to amaze me how they can literally make such a silly, Federal case out of killing someone. When you have your dog put down, the vet administers an overdose of a strong sedative. From the actual time of the start of the injection, until the dog dies is less than 20 seconds, and it is totally painless for the animal.
To do the same thing for a human, they need 5 guys with rifles, secret I.D.'s, blanks, or a "Lethal Injection Machine" with hoses, 5 vials containing enough chemicals to bankrupt Monsanto, a half dozen people to administer it, and a doctor to "pronounce" him or her dead. And as usual, the taxpayer gets bilked out of the entire outrageous, unnecessary cost. Instant stupidity, just add government. Bill T.
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It never ceases to amaze me how they can literally make such a silly, Federal case out of killing someone. When you have your dog put down, the vet administers an overdose of a strong sedative. From the actual time of the start of the injection, until the dog dies is less than 20 seconds, and it is totally painless for the animal.
To do the same thing for a human, they need 5 guys with rifles, secret I.D.'s, blanks, or a "Lethal Injection Machine" with hoses, 5 vials containing enough chemicals to bankrupt Monsanto, a half dozen people to administer it, and a doctor to "pronounce" him or her dead. And as usual, the taxpayer gets bilked out of the entire outrageous, unnecessary cost. Instant stupidity, just add government. Bill T.
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I've never understood all the hoop-la involved with lethal injection anyway. All that fuss with different drugs for this and that. Just smack his ass with a big dose of morphine and let him slip quietly away...which is probably way more 'humane' than what most death-row inmates originally did to someone else in order to arrive in their current situation to begin with.
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As I type this Peg, the guy is an hour away from death. I agree with you, a massive OD of morphine and its game over. However, what BillT describes as the ability of government to make a "stupid federal case out of killing someone", well there I beg to differ. I carry a gun. I once found myself in a situation where I found that I was, in fact, actually prepared and willing to use it. Range? Ten feet or less. Still, that rattled me. For a review see my "Almost mugged in Charleston" thread. I would have done it, but it was in self defense on a dark street. I still threw up a little in my mouth when it was over, realizing how close it came to me having to kill two men. I'd do the same tommorow, but its damn serious business. Being told to kill someone tied to a stake on a judges order? Honestly? I don't think I could pull the trigger no matter what he did. The only way I would is if it were that, or he would walk free to kill again. Then I would. I still wouldn't like it. I guess I just made up my mind on the death penalty. I'll kill to defend, I'll kill to deter, but I won't kill to punish. YMMV. Thanks for the thread. Its helped to resolve a moral dilemna I've been wrestling with for years. Its one of the reasons I like this board.
FQ13 who can now say that he is anti-death penalty, unless there is a damn good reason to apply it.
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Here's the last word on the Gardner case. Submitted without comment from the Salt Lake Tribune.
FQ13
Gardner executed
By Christopher Smart | The Salt Lake Tribune
Updated: 06/18/2010 12:46:40 AM MDT
Ronnie Lee Gardner listens to proceedings during his commutation hearing at the Utah State Prison in Draper, Utah, Thursday, June 10, 2010. Next to him at the table is his attorney Andrew Parnes. (Trent Nelson / The Salt Lake Tribune)Ronnie Lee Gardner's quarter-century on death row ended at 12:20 today when a firing squad executed one of Utah's most notorious killers. His death signaled the end of a gut-wrenching saga for the families of the Utah men Gardner murdered or wounded and those who had hoped to spare the killer's life.
Barb Webb, daughter of Gardner victim Nick Kirk, sobbed when news of the execution came.
"I'm so relieved it's all over," she said, hugging her daughter, Mandi Hull. "I just hope my sister, who just passed away, and my father, and all of the other victims are waiting for his sorry ass. I hope they get to go down after him."
Just after midnight, Gardner's family members leaned against each other in a tight cluster and
sobbed. They played Lynyrd's Skynyrd's "Free Bird," singing along.
"I'm just glad it's over. I'm glad he's free," said Randy Gardner after his brother's death.
Other Gardner relatives whooped and cheered as they released 24 balloons decorated with messages.
"I love you, Ron!" some of them screamed, falling into each other's arms. Gardner's daughter, Brandie Gardner, put her hands to her face and sobbed.
For the nation, the 49-year-old Salt Laker's death by four bullets marked what could be the last execution of its kind in the country.
Utah is the only state still using a firing squad, and only four men on death row could still choose it -- the state switched to lethal injection in 2004.
Gardner's story went global when he told a judge how he preferred to become one of the 50-odd people executed in the United States each year: "I would like the firing squad, please."
Some hope the attention will highlight problems meting out capital punishment in Utah. Both death penalty opponents and believers decry the nearly 25 years Gardner spent between his conviction and execution for the April 1985 murder of Michael Burdell.
Earlier this month, attorneys for the son of a
Provo woman killed in her home during a 1985 robbery by death row inmate Douglas Stewart Carter asked a federal judge to speed up appeals in that 25-year-old case.
"My dad passed away last year. He didn't have any closure," said Gary Olesen, son of victim Eva Olesen. "I'm hoping Gardner's execution will help. But I'm not sure it will."
Jani S. Tillery, from the Maryland Crimes Victims' Resource Center, said her client is only asking the court to "move forward."
Utah Attorney General Mark Shurtleff, who has pushed to streamline death row appeals, said the run-up to today's execution may have generated legislative momentum to remake state law.
"I'm hearing from a lot of people, 25 years is just too long," said Shurtleff. "It's ridiculous."
Ralph Dellapiana, an attorney affiliated with Utahns for Alternatives to the Death Penalty, said he hopes Gardner's death will spark discussion "that this arbitrary process be changed to something else."
The last two executions in Utah have been of killers who halted their own death-row appeals. John Albert Taylor was executed in 1996 after eight years on death row, while Joseph Mitchell Parsons spent 11 years on death row before his 1999 execution.
Unlike them, Gardner has fought to the bitter end.
Gardner's appellate attorneys have argued unsuccessfully over the years that if his jurors had known about the mitigating facts surrounding his troubled childhood -- poverty, drugs, violence and sex abuse -- they would have sentenced him to life in prison.
As part of Gardner's bid for commutation before the Utah Board of Pardons and Parole, three of those jurors signed affidavits saying they would have sentenced Gardner to life without parole if that possibility had been available. A fourth said he would have seriously considered it. Life without parole was not possible until 1992 in Utah.
Gardner himself told the parole board last week he was a changed man from the person who shot and killed Melvyn Otterstrom at The Cheers Tavern on Oct. 24, 1984.
Just before an April 2, 1985, court hearing in the Otterstrom case, Gardner killed attorney Michael Burdell and seriously wounded bailiff Nick Kirk in a failed courthouse escape.
Gardner said over the past decade he had become cognizant of the pain he had caused his victims and their families. He told the parole board he had developed a new awareness of why he had been so violent and impulsive.
"I can't even apologize to the victims, and it makes me sad," said a crying Gardner. "People at that courthouse that didn't even get hurt, I'm sure it traumatized them."
He told the parole board he wanted to spend the rest of his life counseling young inmates and helping abused children with an organic farm program. Gardner also argued his execution would bring the families of his victims little comfort.
"I know killing me is going to hurt them just as bad," he said. "I've been on the other side of that gun."
Yet Gardner was unable to shed his reputation.
Over the past 25 years Gardner has captured headlines numerous times for attacks on other inmates and misbehavior including a standoff at a prison visiting room where he broke down a glass partition, barricaded the door and had sex with his half-brother's wife as officers looked on helplessly.
Members of the victims' families argued both for and against Gardner's death. All said they wanted to end a long nightmare.
"This story must be allowed to slip into history," said Jason Otterstrom during the commutation hearing. "Our families need peace."
The parole board unanimously voted against Gardner. A flurry of last-minute appeals to the governor, U.S. Supreme Court, and 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals also failed.
A bishop with The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints served as Gardner's spiritual adviser at the end of his life, his attorneys said.
Gardner became the 1,213th person nationally and the seventh in Utah to be executed since the U.S. Supreme Court reinstated the death penalty in 1976.
The justices halted executions four years earlier, finding the ultimate punishment was not being applied equally.
Gardner's life and death exemplifies a troubling pattern often seen by psychologists, said Craig Haney, a University of California psychologist who has studied people who commit violent crimes for 30 years.
"We know that abused and neglected children grow up to be impulsive and violent," Haney told the parole board." Ronnie Lee Gardner is a perfect model for someone who grows up to commit horrendous crimes."
csmart@sltrib.com
-- Tribune reporters Nate Carlisle, Pamela Manson, Sheena McFarland, and Matthew D. LaPlante contributed to this report.
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Where did you come up with that info?
dateline actually, that was the last time a guy requested to be shot.(maybe the time before)
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Read the story on MSNBC that the LEO's who shot him used 5 matched Winchesters in 30.30
The headline read Death-row inmate dies in a Barrage of Bullets.
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Firing squad: An eyewitness account of Gardner's execution
Draper » Ronnie Lee Gardner's head, covered by a black hood, remained upright. His body sat straight in the chair to which it was strapped.
As my eyes traveled down Gardner's left arm, past his dark blue jumpsuit, I saw his pale white skin appear below his elbow. Half a faded blue tattoo, some kind of diamond shape, stuck out from the restraint around his wrist.
At the bottom of his restraint, I focused on his fist. Gardner died much the way he lived -- with a clenched fist.
Yes, this was my first time witnessing an execution. I have been amazed at how many people asked me that.
Firing four bullets into a man's chest is, by definition, violent. If it can also be clinical and sterile, then that also happened in this execution.
Tribune reporter Nate Carlisle, a witness to the firing squad execution of Ronnie Lee Gardner, traced these exit holes made by the four bullets that ended the killer's life early Friday morning. (Nate Carlisle/The Salt Lake Tribune) drawing at link
Eight other journalists and I had our own viewing area with about a 6-foot-wide, bullet-proof window. When the curtain opened, there sat Gardner. We were at about a 45-degree angle to his left.
He looked nothing like the athletic 23 year old with the red hair who murdered Melvyn Otterstrom in a robbery, nor did he flash that grin he had in those infamous photographs of him shackled on the courthouse lawn after killing Michael Burdell and wounding Nick Kirk in 1985.
This time, he looked like Utah's own ghost of Hannibal Lecter. Gardner's skin and his white socks contrasted with the dark blue jump suit he wore and the restraints, chair, wooden backdrop and sandbags, all of which were painted black. Restraints circled his wrists, ankles, shoulders and waist, but the restraint across his forehead best exemplified his confinement to me.
Gardner could not even look around the room and the fluorescent lights in the ceiling tiles illuminated his bald head and pale face.
Over his left breast clung a white square, about 2 inches by 2 inches, with a circle in the middle.
The room had no decor. There was a white tile floor with white cinder block walls. The two slits for the shooters sat opposite Gardner and windows for the observers lined the two perpendicular sides.
Steven Turley, warden at the Draper prison, picked up a microphone and announced Gardner had two minutes to say his final words. When Turley asked Gardner if he had anything to say, Gardner said, "I do not. No." Gardner moved his head ever so slightly trying to shake it.
Gardner's final words were to say he had none.
Turley hung up the microphone. Turley reached up and gently pulled a hood over Gardner's head. Turley picked up the microphone, unplugged its cord from a wall jack, wound the cord in his hand and exited the room.
Over the next 30 seconds, my heart raced. I realized the five gunmen would launch their volleys any moment. I placed a Styrofoam plug in my right ear to match the one I had earlier placed in my left. The other reporters and I stood in front of the glass.
I watched Gardner. As the seconds passed, I grew anxious. I pivoted my eyes away from Gardner toward the slits.
In that fraction of a second my eyes were in transit, I heard "boom boom." The sounds were as close together as you could spew them from your mouth.
My eyes darted back to Gardner and to his chest. The target, perfect just a second earlier, had three holes. The largest hole was in the top half of the circle and toward Gardner's left side. It may have been where two bullets entered Gardner.
Below that hole, still inside the circle, was a smaller hole. Outside the circle, in the bottom right of the target, was a third hole. Each hole had a black outline. Utah Department of Corrections Director Tom Patterson would say later the target was fastened to the jump suit by Velcro and that may account for the black outline.
I watched Gardner's torso. The men who shot John Alberty Taylor in a firing squad in 1996 said they saw Taylor's body slump and I assumed Gardner would, too. But I never saw such a movement.
Instead, a few seconds after the gunshots, I saw Gardner move his left arm. He pushed it forward about 2 inches against the restraints. In that same motion, he closed his hand and made a fist.
Then it happened in reverse. Gardner's hand loosened, his arm bent at the elbow, straightened again and the fist returned. At the time, I interpreted this as Gardner suffering -- clenching his fist in an effort to fight the pain.
As I write this, I don't know whether that's true. It could have just been reflexes or some other process the body begins after a major trauma. Scientists do not know much about what a person shot through the heart feels.
The next movement I saw from Gardner came from beneath his hood. I could see the bottom of his throat and it rippled as though Gardner moved his jaw.
I squinted my eyes, looking for blood. I saw none through the holes in Gardner's chest. None spilled on the floor. The jump suit slightly darkened around his waist and it appeared that's where blood was pooling. But I never saw a drop.
About two minutes passed after the gunshots. It was long enough that I wondered (and some of my colleagues later said they wondered, too) whether Gardner would require a second volley of bullets to die.
Through a side door walked a man in a button-down shirt, slacks and blue plastic gloves. He lifted Gardner's hood only enough to check the pulse on the left side of Gardner's neck. The man appeared to do the same on Gardner's right.
Then the man lifted the hood high enough to shine his small flashlight in Gardner's eyes. When he did this I could see Gardner's face. His mouth was agape. His face was even whiter than it was before the hood covered him.
The man withdrew his flashlight and let the hood fall again. He shut off the flashlight and started to walk out of the room. Gardner was dead.
Turley and Lowell Clark, the director of division institutional operations for the Department of Corrections, entered the chamber. Clark grasped the curtain on my side and Turley the curtain on the opposite wall.
As Clark pulled the curtain along its rod, I pushed my head toward the glass to take one final look at the scene. In the final second, my eyes focused on the straightened left arm, seemingly flexing, and that clenched fist.
http://www.sltrib.com/D=g/ci_15325356
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I can feel no sympathy for this man who so violently and so vilely took life from others. Perhaps he was honestly remorseful for his actions. Perhaps he truly regretted the evil he had committed. Perhaps he has been forgiven. That is between him and God. The one aspect of this that I have trouble with is the length of time it took to send him to whatever awaits him. My prayer is for the victims' families left behind. I pray that they can garner some peace from this conclusion.
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Good riddence, pity we didnt have capital punishment here, there is a few that deserve such treatment.
Some of the comments on that youtube video make me wonder! >:(
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I can feel no sympathy for this man who so violently and so vilely took life from others. Perhaps he was honestly remorseful for his actions. Perhaps he truly regretted the evil he had committed. Perhaps he has been forgiven. That is between him and God. The one aspect of this that I have trouble with is the length of time it took to send him to whatever awaits him. My prayer is for the victims' families left behind. I pray that they can garner some peace from this conclusion.
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Well put, CR.
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Someone tell me why ALL the gun forums are so into this case... I mean is it just becuase the guy got shot? Thats kinda twisted (hope MSNBC(D) doesnt catch wind of it).
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It never ceases to amaze me how they can literally make such a silly, Federal case out of killing someone. When you have your dog put down, the vet administers an overdose of a strong sedative. From the actual time of the start of the injection, until the dog dies is less than 20 seconds, and it is totally painless for the animal.
To do the same thing for a human, they need 5 guys with rifles, secret I.D.'s, blanks, or a "Lethal Injection Machine" with hoses, 5 vials containing enough chemicals to bankrupt Monsanto, a half dozen people to administer it, and a doctor to "pronounce" him or her dead. And as usual, the taxpayer gets bilked out of the entire outrageous, unnecessary cost. Instant stupidity, just add government. Bill T.
hell ill do it for free. and it will only take 1 shot :D
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Still no confirmed rifle type. :-\
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Still no confirmed rifle type. :-\
From MSNBC article already mentioned..
The executioners were all certified police officers who volunteered for the task and remain anonymous. They stood about 25 feet from Gardner, behind a wall cut with a gunport, and were armed with a matched set of .30-caliber Winchester rifles.
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From MSNBC article already mentioned..
The executioners were all certified police officers who volunteered for the task and remain anonymous. They stood about 25 feet from Gardner, behind a wall cut with a gunport, and were armed with a matched set of .30-caliber Winchester rifles.
I wonder what those would go for on Gunbroker "Used in the last firing squad execution in the US. Signed by the firing officer" :P.
FQ13
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OK, I wonder if they were the American Made, or the the now made in Japan version. ??? Oh, well...results the same..
Thanks Timothy.
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My dad saw a thief executed in China during WWII. They knelt him down and an officer shot him in the back of the head.
The family could not recover the body till they paid the fine. The process from arrest to execution was less than 24 hours.
He had been caught in the US barracks with about $5 of money and a couple of GI watches.
I have heard the Soviets did the same thing in the showers of their prisons. No last meal, no family just kneel , bang, clean up the mess.
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My dad saw a thief executed in China during WWII. They knelt him down and an officer shot him in the back of the head.
The family could not recover the body till they paid the fine. The process from arrest to execution was less than 24 hours.
He had been caught in the US barracks with about $5 of money and a couple of GI watches.
I have heard the Soviets did the same thing in the showers of their prisons. No last meal, no family just kneel , bang, clean up the mess.
Which should tell us something. There is some company that you should not wish to keep. Just sayin'.
FQ13
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As I type this Peg, the guy is an hour away from death. I agree with you, a massive OD of morphine and its game over. However, what BillT describes as the ability of government to make a "stupid federal case out of killing someone", well there I beg to differ.
FQ13 who can now say that he is anti-death penalty, unless there is a damn good reason to apply it.
I'm not arguing pro or con about the death penalty. The fact of the matter is we have it much like abortion, no matter if we like it or not. With that said it is absolutely ridiculous the way they take something that could be accomplished so effortlessly, painlessly, positively, and cheaply, and turn the entire procedure into something you'd think Rube Goldberg came up with while he was on a weekend bender. All that's left for the government to enhance, would be to arrange the firing squad in a circle. Bill T.
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Why dont we just put 5 or 6 scum bags in a blast proof room toss in a grenade and just walk away. Its cheap but a little messy and the results are quik.
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Why dont we just put 5 or 6 scum bags in a blast proof room toss in a grenade and just walk away. Its cheap but a little messy and the results are quik.
I bet you could put it in there with the pin and one of the idiots would probably pull it
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Why dont we just put 5 or 6 scum bags in a blast proof room toss in a grenade and just walk away. Its cheap but a little messy and the results are quik.
Hmmm.....same idea...but pull the pin, hand it to one of the 6 and tell them to take turns holding the spoon in place. Then tell them the one who holds it the most times gets a pardon. Then shut the door.