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Title: Rugby ?
Post by: tombogan03884 on July 10, 2010, 09:33:56 PM
Phil posted a couple videos on another thread,






Can some body explain this game to me ?
It looks like soccer, with an American Football, and you can only use your feet on other players.
Does this game have "rules" ?  Or is it just a gang fight over a ball ?
                 ;D
Title: Re: Rugby ?
Post by: twyacht on July 10, 2010, 09:35:41 PM
Best explanation is "Kill The Man With The Ball"

or as other Euro folks I know, especially the Brits,...

elegant violence.

Title: Re: Rugby ?
Post by: fightingquaker13 on July 10, 2010, 10:21:01 PM
Best explanation is "Kill The Man With The Ball"

or as other Euro folks I know, especially the Brits,...

elegant violence.


No, fencing with a sabre is elegant violence . Ruby is just an excuse to beat the crap out of people, then drink beer afterwards. ;D I did the fencing bit in college (ROTC encouraged it. I mean, you never know when we might need to revive the horse cavalry. ::)). My friends played Rugby. I joined them for the post game beer. I was the one who wasn't bleeding. ;D
FQ13
Title: Re: Rugby ?
Post by: deepwater on July 10, 2010, 10:29:10 PM
SMEAR THE QUEER!!!!!
and they have HOOKERS on the team   :D !! sweet....


deepwater
Title: Re: Rugby ?
Post by: Bic on July 10, 2010, 10:43:19 PM
In the '60's there were two types of schools in the UK............one played 'Soccer', the other Rugby. I went to a Rugby playing Grammar School (and played Hooker!), the only 'protection' I got was some electrical tape to keep my ears in place and some shinpads.......I can still almost fit the tip of my nose into either eye socket ::)
Title: Re: Rugby ?
Post by: Mericet on July 10, 2010, 11:02:36 PM
All rugby of some sort. The first clip is from the Australian League Football competition commonly known as Aussie rules. Really only played n Australia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Football_League

The second clip is from Rugby League. This is lesser known form of rugby and is only played in a limited number of countries. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugby_league

The last and most well known is Rugby Union. Pretty much played all over the world (even here in the US). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugby_union

All of them are pretty tough games. I am mostly familiar with Rugby Union rules and most, if not all, of the tackles in the second clip would have been penalised as dangerous tackles. As for Aussie rules stuff, I think our friends from down under should rather try and explain that one. I think almost anything is legal in that game. :)
Title: Re: Rugby ?
Post by: PegLeg45 on July 10, 2010, 11:05:58 PM
I went to a fight once and a Rugby game broke out.....no, wait...maybe it was a hockey game.....no, it was Rugby.  :D
Title: Re: Rugby ?
Post by: fightingquaker13 on July 10, 2010, 11:06:59 PM
This whole Rugby thread gives me college flashbacks. I went to school in DC in the '80s. It really is a small town (measured in terms of distance by by subway) and there are 16 colleges. None of whom, with the exception of Georgetown, are note worthy in terms of sports . As a result, the students, with admin support, tended to go for more obscure stuff like wrestling or pole vaulting or gymnastics. The schools loved it because it was a whole lot cheaper than a football team and they might actually win something. For reasons known but to God, Rugby (particularly women's rugby) became the cool thing in the '80s. It was the sport of geek jocks. Obscure enough to have a certain cache and violent enough to avoid being labeled as a sissy sport. Turn out for games (which were not NCAA recognized, but just crosstown intramurals was huge). This might have had something to do with tradition of the winning team taking off their jerseys at the end of a match (a big draw for the women's games) ;). No one, including the players, really knew what was going on, but a good time was had by all. ;D

What makes me laugh about this was the various ROTC units. AU didn't have one, so all the cadets had to commute. Given that we were required to be across town before the busses started running on various days a week, a carpool sytem developed between Army, Navy, Marines and Airforce. Each service had their own preffered sport. All of them wanted you to compete athletically, but each school's cadre had their own pet sport. The Navy liked swimming as GW had a superb pool. Me, think it showed a lack of confidence in their gear, but no one asked me. ;D The Airforce liked volleyball as it can be played in hangers with zero equipment and junior officers should know how to organize a game (at least that was the rationale). The Marines, to no one's surprise, liked boxing, even for female cadets. My Army unit was into fencing, I guess the whole officer and a gentleman thing is deeply wired ::). What was a source of amusement (at least to the Army  ;)) was this. In extremis, the Navy will swim away, the Airforce will volley, the Marines will kick both their asses and then the Army will gut the Marines like a fish. ;D
FQ13
Title: Re: Rugby ?
Post by: tombogan03884 on July 10, 2010, 11:45:22 PM
The most common sport when I was on active duty, was Frisbee  ;D
Football was a close 2nd though.  ;D
Title: Re: Rugby ?
Post by: ske1eter on July 11, 2010, 04:00:45 PM
At least, it's better than soccer. Ooops, sorry, I meant football (futbol).  8)
Title: Re: Rugby ?
Post by: Timothy on July 11, 2010, 04:03:31 PM
The most common sport when I was on active duty, was Frisbee  ;D
Football was a close 2nd though.  ;D

Foosball......Naval Station Key West, Truman Annex base champion in Singles and Doubles, 1976......

 ;D

Title: Re: Rugby ?
Post by: Texas_Bryan on July 11, 2010, 06:16:15 PM
I like my sports to involve the wearing of pants... :-\
Title: Re: Rugby ?
Post by: sledgemeister on July 12, 2010, 12:02:16 PM
roflmao explaining AFL to a non australian is like trying to explain why Vegemite tastes great.
Personally I like AFL, over rugby or bum sniffers as I call them. I have an issue with a game that requires a person to put their head next to another mans ass (ie the scrum).

Rugby is a weird game and while it can be very exciting especially the 7 aside version its weird!
Some are just plain perverse too.
ie
Title: Re: Rugby ?
Post by: tombogan03884 on July 13, 2010, 01:43:51 AM
OK, second question,
What the he77 is "Vegemite" ?

A termite that only eats leaves ?
Title: Re: Rugby ?
Post by: sledgemeister on July 13, 2010, 10:46:48 AM
OK, second question,
What the he77 is "Vegemite" ?

A termite that only eats leaves ?

To aussies its the nectar of the gods, you commonly spread it on toast with butter, but can be used in a variety of ways, making broth, sealing oil leaks in gear boxes, axle grease replacement, or sealing tiles instead of using tar.

(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c174/therealwoodmonkey/other%20stuff/Vegemite.jpg)

What is vegemite? Glad you asked hehe
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Ever since World War ll Australian troops have depended on Vegemite for a taste of home.

Australian doctors started recommending Vegemite as a convenient source of vitamin B after it was approved by the British Medical Association in 1939. 

These days you'll find jars and tubes of Vegemite with Aussie backpackers and travellers the world over.

Vegemite is responsible for giving us a second national song - the "Happy Little Vegemites" jingle and it continues to put a rose in every patriotic cheek. 
Vegemite

Vegemite dates back to 1922 when the Fred Walker Company, which became Kraft Walker Foods in 1926 and Kraft Foods Limited in 1950, hired a young chemist to develop a spread from one of the richest known natural sources of the vitamin B group - Brewers Yeast.

Following months of laboratory tests, Dr. Cyril P Callister, who became the nation’s leading food technologist of the 1920s and 30s developed a tasty spreadable paste. It came in a two ounce (57g) amber glass jar capped with a Phoenix seal with the label "Pure Vegetable Extract". 

In an imaginative approach, Walker turned to the Australian public to officially name his spread. He conducted a national trade-name competition offering an attractive 50 pound prize pool for the finalists. 
Dr. Cyril P Callister

How the 50 pounds was distributed or who was the winning contestant has unfortunately been lost in history, but it was Walker's daughter who chose the winning name out of the hundreds of entries.

That winning name was Vegemite and in 1923 Vegemite first graced grocers' shelves. It was described as "Delicious on sandwiches and toast, and improves the flavour of soups, stews and gravies". However, it took 14 long years of perseverance from Walker before Vegemite finally gained acceptance and recognition with the Australian people.

When Australians first heard about Vegemite, a thick, dark English spread (called Marmite) already dominated the spread market and Australians were reluctant to try Fred Walker's locally made product. Poor sales performance resulted in Vegemite being re-named in 1928. 

In an attempt to emulate the success of Marmite, Walker re-launched Vegemite as "Parwill". "If Marmite...then Parwill" was the rationale behind Walker's strategy to carve a niche in the market for his concentrated yeast extract spread. 
Parwill

However Parwill was only ever sold in Queensland and Walker's creative play-on-words fell on deaf ears and Parwill failed. Walker went back to the drawing board, and finally realised that the Vegemite brand could work. All he had to do was stimulate consumer trial. 
The Phenomenon Begins

In 1937, another intriguing promotion was launched: a limerick contest with substantial prizes, including Pontiac cars. Entries poured in and Australians were finally purchasing and eating Vegemite on a massive scale. Vegemite was well and truly on the road to success!

Immediately prior to the outbreak of World War II, Vegemite gained official product endorsement from the British Medical Association. This allowed Vegemite to be advertised in the Australian Medical Journal, and for medical professionals to recommend Vegemite as a Vitamin B rich, nutritionally balanced food for patients.

By 1942 Vegemite had become a permanent fixture on Australian tables. However, tough times were experienced during World War II when supplies for the civilian market were rationed on a strict per capita basis. This was in order to meet the demand of the Armed Forces which were buying Vegemite in seven pound (3.2kg) and eight ounce (227g) tins, plus 1/2 ounce (14g) individual portions because of the product’s nutritional value.

Fred Walker’s company kept Australians aware of why Vegemite was in short supply and continued to promote the healthy virtues of Vegemite, such as the high level of Vitamin B within the spread. Throughout the years of conflict, this message generated immeasurable goodwill for the product.

When world peace finally arrived, Australia experienced a post-war ‘baby’ boom’ creating a huge new market for Vegemite. People with years of Infant Welfare experience, such as baby care expert Sister McDonald, said in the Women’s Weekly that “Vegemite is most essential”, further cementing Vegemite’s reputation for nutrition and wholesomeness. Infant Welfare Centres were recommending babies have their quota of Vitamin B1, B2 and Niacin - of which Vegemite has them all!


Australians Sing for their Vegemite

If asked, most Australians could sing the Vegemite theme song. The jingle was first performed on radio in 1954 when The Happy Little Vegemites - a trio of bright youngsters with a vital beat - burst into song with the ‘Happy Little Vegemites’ toe-tapping jingle.

Two years later, the Happy Little Vegemites were no longer just a voice on radio. Kraft adapted the popular ‘Happy Little Vegemites’ campaign for a television audience showing healthy young children in happy scenes. Kraft’s ‘Happy Little Vegemites’ campaign continued intermittently on radio and television until the late 1960s.

In the ensuing years, the ‘Happy Little Vegemites’ advertising campaign was replaced by other commercials depicting Vegemite as a nutritional food for people of all ages. It wasn’t until the late 1980s when the original ‘Happy Little Vegemites’ commercials were dusted off and colourised, that new generations of Australians were given the chance to experience the nostalgia of Vegemite
As we now move through the 21st Century, Vegemite remains relatively unchanged in recipe and label and we now sell over 22 million jars every year! We are always discovering new ways to enjoy Australia’s favourite spread and it is not limited to bread or crackers. There are now many great contemporary recipes that contain Vegemite, click on recipes to see these.

Kraft has had an on-going commitment since the 1920’s to reinforce the message to Australians that Vegemite is nearly five times more concentrated than yeast, making it one of the world’s richest known sources of the energy giving Vitamin B group.

So not only is Vegemite a part of Australia’s history, it is also good for us. For generations, Vegemite has and will remain an intrinsic part of Australian family life.

In 2003, this Australian icon celebrated a key milestone - 80 years in the market. This new era brings with it a revival of the jingle - a means by which Vegemite can continue to SPREAD THE SMILE across the nation.
Title: Re: Rugby ?
Post by: tombogan03884 on July 13, 2010, 11:17:17 AM
Sounds like an ad for "Soylent green"  ;D
Is it available in the State's ?
( I don't care if it is made from people, I need a more balanced no hassle diet.  ;D  )
Title: Re: Rugby ?
Post by: tombogan03884 on July 13, 2010, 11:18:27 AM
Just realized, I drifted the crap out of my own thread  ;D
Title: Re: Rugby ?
Post by: sledgemeister on July 13, 2010, 11:26:08 AM
Sounds like an ad for "Soylent green"  ;D
Is it available in the State's ?
( I don't care if it is made from people, I need a more balanced no hassle diet.  ;D  )

Theres was talk a while back about the US banning it because of added folate, but then the numpties realised no folate was added to the product as it occurs naturally in it.

Try here if your interested in trying it
http://evryaustralian.stores.yahoo.net/

http://www.aussieproducts.com/vegemite.asp
Title: Re: Rugby ?
Post by: PegLeg45 on July 14, 2010, 01:16:38 PM
Think I'll just stick with peanut butter....... 
Title: Re: Rugby ?
Post by: Big Frank on July 14, 2010, 06:10:13 PM
Think I'll just stick with peanut butter....... 

or Nutella. Yum.
Title: Re: Rugby ?
Post by: crusader rabbit on July 15, 2010, 08:14:00 AM
So are you saying that there is no truth to the legend that Vegemite was invented because Aussie brewers had vast amounts of yuck left in the bottoms of their brewing vats and wanted another profit source?  So, instead of paying to haul it away, they scraped it into small jars and convinced gullible Aussies that it was food and worth purchasing.  It took nearly a century, but Bruce and Sheila finally accepted it as a source of vitamins and shelled out a few quid for each jar.

I will admit to having had a taste of it, but certainly not for it.  The stuff would make a Palmetto Bug puke on his shoes.   :P :P :P :-X

And now back to your regularly scheduled programming...  ;D
Title: Re: Rugby ?
Post by: philw on July 15, 2010, 09:48:24 AM
So are you saying that there is no truth to the legend that Vegemite was invented because Aussie brewers had vast amounts of yuck left in the bottoms of their brewing vats and wanted another profit source?  So, instead of paying to haul it away, they scraped it into small jars and convinced gullible Aussies that it was food and worth purchasing.  It took nearly a century, but Bruce and Sheila finally accepted it as a source of vitamins and shelled out a few quid for each jar.

shhhh  don't tell them that.  ;)


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I will admit to having had a taste of it, but certainly not for it.  The stuff would make a Palmetto Bug puke on his shoes.   :P :P :P :-X

And now back to your regularly scheduled programming...  ;D

it is good hay  :D



just don't add it in to your home brew 
http://www.cairns.com.au/article/2010/06/29/115685_local-news.html
Title: Re: Rugby ?
Post by: sledgemeister on July 15, 2010, 10:34:56 AM
So are you saying that there is no truth to the legend that Vegemite was invented because Aussie brewers had vast amounts of yuck left in the bottoms of their brewing vats and wanted another profit source?  So, instead of paying to haul it away, they scraped it into small jars and convinced gullible Aussies that it was food and worth purchasing.  It took nearly a century, but Bruce and Sheila finally accepted it as a source of vitamins and shelled out a few quid for each jar.

I will admit to having had a taste of it, but certainly not for it.  The stuff would make a Palmetto Bug puke on his shoes.   :P :P :P :-X

And now back to your regularly scheduled programming...  ;D

Its rumoured that the stuff floating around on the SE coast is actually from a ship that sunk carrying Vegemite!