The Down Range Forum
Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: philw on July 18, 2010, 06:14:26 AM
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well we are off to the polls again ::)
21/8/2010 for us to vote in the Federal election
I am over it all ready and they have all ready stuck up the signs about the place ( less than 24 hours after the election was announced )
and the adds on TV / Radio
+ what we get on the news every night!!!
think it is going to be a long 5 weeks
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Five weeks? How about 2 years of ads and media coverage before a primary election to see who's going to represent the varoius parties in the real federal election? 5 weeks, I'll take that any day.
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Five weeks? How about 2 years of ads and media coverage before a primary election to see who's going to represent the varoius parties in the real federal election? 5 weeks, I'll take that any day.
What he ^ said!
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Hillary started campaigning after the '06 mid term elections.
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I know what you are saying
we get it all the time however once the election is called they lay it on thick and fast
the only job a Polly has is to get re-elected ::) ::) ::)
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well it is voting time today
they are saying it will be a close one and we might not know the final result for a few days. will know more later tonight though
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I ke the 5week thing. If t weren't for the 1A I would love see something like it. Israel does it as well. There is a fixed (I think 1 month period) where campaigning is permitted and thats it. It cuts down dramamattically on the role of money. UnConstitutional here, but nice in theory.
FQ13
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;D Not at all FQ ;D They can always say or publish whatever they want (slander and liable being stock in trade ).
but the $ MONEY $ can only come out of CAMPAIGN FUNDS during that set period of time ;D
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Phil,
Does Australia require their citizens to vote? Are the federal/national elections always scheduled on a Saturday?
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Phil,
Does Australia require their citizens to vote? Are the federal/national elections always scheduled on a Saturday?
yep :-\
Yes, voting is compulsory for every Aussie citizen aged 18 years or older in both state and federal elections. If you do not vote or have a good reason not to vote then you can get a $20 fine, if you don't pay that it goes to court and you can get hit with a $50 fine + court costs
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;D Not at all FQ ;D They can always say or publish whatever they want (slander and liable being stock in trade ).
but the $ MONEY $ can only come out of CAMPAIGN FUNDS during that set period of time ;D
o you will love this then
Campaign Launch's
we pay a lot until the Campaign Launch's
Labour only had theres Last monday and The Libs had theres the weekend before.. why is this you ask
You pay for their late launches
Date: August 15 2010
Jessica Wright
Taxpayers will fork out more than $50 million to cover the election campaign costs of candidates and incumbent members, including hefty bills for the accommodation, travel and meals of senior politicians and their entourages.
Despite a parliamentary inquiry into the legitimacy of the scheme, candidates with more than 4 per cent of the ballot will continue to receive $2.31 for each vote counted, which is paid retrospectively.
After the 2007 election, the payout to candidates - successful and not - cost taxpayers $49 million.
With 1198 candidates standing across the 150 electorates, the Electoral Commission estimates an equal or greater figure will be paid this time.
The total cost of the election to the taxpayer is slated to exceed the 2007's record of $163 million.
Additionally, a loophole in Department of Finance policy means the sizeable daily travel allowances for politicians and staffers are paid out of the public purse until the day of the respective political parties' campaign launch.
The Liberal Party and the Nationals have been carrying their own costs for a week and will ultimately be financially responsible for nine days of the 33-day campaign.
However, the ALP will continue to have public funding until the conclusion of tomorrow's ''official'' campaign launch in Brisbane, leaving Labor with just five days to pay for.
The bill to taxpayers includes nightly accommodation in five-star hotels - both Labor and Liberals prefer Sydney's Wentworth and Sofitel hotels - as well as chartered jets, chauffeured vehicles and catered meals. Additionally, about 30 staff sequestered to run the ALP and Coalition campaign headquarters are given a daily taxpayer-funded allowance of up to $250.
Ministers, shadow ministers and their staff are also granted the travel allowance during the campaign while in most cases the candidate entitlement benefit is passed to candidates' party branches. The funds are then used to recoup money spent on election advertising and printing.
The logistics of the modern political campaign are complex. Both leaders always travel with chiefs of staff, multiple press secretaries, a team of policy advisers, party officials and various personal staff. Around-the clock security staff also shadow Ms Gillard.
The frenetic pace of the campaign has meant Ms Gillard and Tony Abbott often travel between states and cities in a single day.
Figures revealing the total cost to the taxpayer of the campaigns will not be available until well after the election. However, historical data shows the expense of staging a federal election has also skyrocketed. Figures collated by the Electoral Commission show the 2001 election cost $105.5 million to run, which included $38.5 million in candidate entitlements; the 2004 election cost close to $120 million; and the 2007 election a record $163 million.
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-election/you-pay-for-their-late-launches-20100814-12420.html?skin=text-only
how would you like this system
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I think It's it time to grab our ankles?
we at this stage do not know who won and we have a hung parliament ( same as what happened with the UK at there elections )
a big issue for us is The Greens however have the balance of power in the Senate,
that don't look good for us
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Can those people do anything with out screwing it up ?
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Can those people do anything with out screwing it up ?
and this shocks you???
still no news on who run the place or if we have to do it all again ::)
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this sumed it up for me
language warning ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZnXc9DAF2M
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this sumed it up for me
language warning ;)
I think that is our new RKBA theme song!
FQ13
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well it's now official we are screwed
Gillard has got the support from the independents .
92.8% counted. Updated Tue Sep 7 10:12PM
Party % Vote Swing Won Predict
Labor 38.0 -5.4 72
Coalition 43.7 +1.5 73
Greens 11.7 +4.0 1
Others 6.6 -0.1 4
so caus of the others and the greens they get in however only acutely got 38% of the primary vote
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Phil, I read that Queensland has a bill to register ALL 'looks like a gun' bill. It includes toys!
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Phil, I read that Queensland has a bill to register ALL 'looks like a gun' bill. It includes toys!
yep ::)
bit like our replica BS I posted a while ago
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Phil, I read that Queensland has a bill to register ALL 'looks like a gun' bill. It includes toys!
Understand that the intent is not to protect folks from the danger posed by toy guns, but to remove the concept of "guns" as acceptable objects from citizens at as early an age as possible.
The same goal of the Zero Tolerance guns rules in our schools. Not to protect us from pictures of guns, but to remove the concept of guns being anything but bad from young minds.
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Understand that the intent is not to protect folks from the danger posed by toy guns, but to remove the concept of "guns" as acceptable objects from citizens at as early an age as possible.
The same goal of the Zero Tolerance guns rules in our schools. Not to protect us from pictures of guns, but to remove the concept of guns being anything but bad from young minds.
the people that know best for us tell us that it is due to "Crime" that is done when people do hold up's with the replica's
also this is not in law yet they are still working out the final details