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Title: Harpers magazine article on CCW.
Post by: Tyler Durden on July 28, 2010, 03:50:07 PM
Hi all,

I had some time to kill today, so I swung by my local Border's bookstore.

I was mainly there to peruse the hobbyist machinist periodicals, but a copy of Harpers caught my eye.  It had a drawing of a gun on the front cover.

Now, I have to admit that this was my first time cracking open a Harpers magazine.  Consequently, I was left wondering what kind of political...errr...ideology biases that "rag" leaned to, and just what kind of slant they would put on an article about CCW'ing.  All in all, I thought that the CCW article was balanced.  And I did learn a thing or two...or three...some new vocabulary words I hadn't picked up while cramming for the GRE.  (If I only had brought my internet enabled phone in with me so I could go to dictionary.com to ed-u-ma-cate myself on these new to me three syllable'ed words....SIGHHH!!! )

I found the article online, but of course you have to be a subscriber to the magazine to take a peek at it:

http://harpers.org/archive/2010/08/0083063

Anywhooo...if you have some time to kill and a bookstore nearby, read the article and let me know what you think.

Or..heck, if you have had any past experience with Harpers, could ya kinda clue me in as to what their particular political proclivities tend to be?

I mean other than my mere observation that the writers there come across as intellectual "chest thumpers"... or chest puff-er out-ers.

Thanks!

Tyler
Title: Re: Harpers magazine article on CCW.
Post by: DonWorsham on July 28, 2010, 08:20:20 PM
PDF here....

http://www.bogley.com/forum/showthread.php?39993-Happiness-is-a-Worn-Gun&s=69d048ce0c78193473a7a92ddb61bd74&p=408989#post408989
Title: Re: Harpers magazine article on CCW.
Post by: DonWorsham on July 28, 2010, 09:02:55 PM
Read it. Didn't care for it. In the end he went back to his liberal way of thinking about carrying a gun. He only cares about being able to hunt with his rifle and will support the next anti-gun law. He won't get excited until they try to take away his hunting rifle.
Title: Re: Harpers magazine article on CCW.
Post by: Michael Bane on July 28, 2010, 11:04:31 PM
I think anyone who "misses Condition White" is welcome to stay there...I think this is going to be a pod subject next week...

Michael B
Title: Re: Harpers magazine article on CCW.
Post by: Walter45Auto on July 29, 2010, 12:29:13 AM
I didn't read the whole thing, but I didn't see that he changed his opinion, so I don't see how he could go back.
Title: Re: Harpers magazine article on CCW.
Post by: Hazcat on July 29, 2010, 09:11:25 AM
PDF here....

http://www.bogley.com/forum/showthread.php?39993-Happiness-is-a-Worn-Gun&s=69d048ce0c78193473a7a92ddb61bd74&p=408989#post408989

Couldn't read it.

Asks for a registration, Don.
Title: Re: Harpers magazine article on CCW.
Post by: DonWorsham on July 29, 2010, 12:39:42 PM
Sorry Haz, it works for me and I am not registered there. I just clicked the link again (you do have to scroll up to find the posting with PDF link in it) and it still works.
Title: Re: Harpers magazine article on CCW.
Post by: Hazcat on July 29, 2010, 02:22:25 PM
Oh well.  I tried again and all I get is a front page that says to register or login.
Title: Re: Harpers magazine article on CCW.
Post by: PegLeg45 on July 29, 2010, 02:24:24 PM
Oh well.  I tried again and all I get is a front page that says to register or login.


I saved the PDF to my hard drive....I'll email it to ya Pal.  :D
Title: Re: Harpers magazine article on CCW.
Post by: Hazcat on July 29, 2010, 02:28:03 PM
I saved the PDF to my hard drive....I'll email it to ya Pal.  :D

THANKS!
Title: Re: Harpers magazine article on CCW.
Post by: jaybet on July 29, 2010, 02:45:59 PM
That was just a noncommittal piece of pap. Like reading a short story. Doesn't feel real. It was almost like a term paper on both sides of the argument.
Title: Re: Harpers magazine article on CCW.
Post by: Walter45Auto on July 29, 2010, 07:18:47 PM
+1. But I only noticed one side of the argument.
Title: Re: Harpers magazine article on CCW.
Post by: tombogan03884 on July 29, 2010, 10:39:18 PM
What argument ? We got them, the other side doesn't .
Their our bit#hes.
Title: Re: Harpers magazine article on CCW.
Post by: Tyler Durden on August 03, 2010, 05:01:48 PM
Okay...I have to readily admit than I am in a bit of a conundrum here after reading the article.

It's like this see...I live in the land of Ill-annoyed...down south by St. Louis...err... by East St. Louis.

Ya, know, Ill-annoyed, People's Republic of...the Land of No-CCW'ing .

Why, heck, crime was so bad here...or near here that ferral dogs were literally walking down the streets of East St. Louis with human body parts in their mouths.

And I was once an intern way back when with Illinois State Police punching all sorts of crime/crime scene data into the FBI's ViCAP program.

but....buuuuttt...I don't feel the need to pack heat here.  I know where to go...or rather where to stay away from and at which times not to be there.

But at the other end of the spectrum, I shoot at least 4 USPSA and/or steel plate matches a month.  I reckon I shot about 7,000 to 8,000 rounds in matches, just matches, in either 2007 or 2008 (just by looking at my USPSA classifier page...all the classifier stages I shot in 2007 or 2008)...whenever, there is a little bit of flare up while I am out and about in public, there is this tiny little voice I hear ( a lot like Magnum P.I.'s voice) that goes, "Shooter, are you ready?  Standby!  BEEEP!"  I have no doubt whatsoever that I could clear a room out, rather quickly, and effectively if the S were to hit the F.

But at the same time, I make it a point to NOT stick my nose in other people's business.

And....AND!!  the one time trouble did find me, it was my X, X brother in law.  He tried to strangle me in the middle of a Sears store.  It was about money and medical bills for my special needs niece after my sister (her mother) died (cancer).

So, it was not UNexpected that I would run into trouble with that guy.  He is/was a bully.

Had we both been in a Sears store in Missouri and I was CCW'ing, he very well could be dead, and I possibly could be in prison.

With all that said above....I gotta ask...has there ever been a thread here where people/members here who CCW talked about their run-ins that they had while they were packing heat?

Mainly, I am just curious how the situation(s) evolved, were de-escaluated, and/or devolved rapidly.

Am I liberal?  NO!  not by any stretch of the imagination.

Am I in condition white the whole time?  Just when I am asleep.  Otherwise my Identification Friend or Foe (IFF) system is working full time....sizing people up...speculating on their intentions ...all within a second or two of spotting them.