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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: ericire12 on July 28, 2010, 06:01:28 PM
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Video here:
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/07/28/video-whos-up-for-another-insanely-slick-ad-from-the-republican-governors-association/
*Can you spot the 1911?
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That almost gave me chills. I wish I wasn't so cynical to think that the Governors are just another bunch of politicians. Then again, with the likes of Jindal, Christie and Daniels there seem to be some bright spots.
1911 = fella in the cowboy hat walking with another gentleman. Wasn't on the screen long enough for me to see who it was.
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Can we please play this everyday, in prime time, on every station in the U.S?
Boy do I miss tar & feathering... :'(
I'd start in Bell, Kalifornia.
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you know guys, I absolutely can't STAND Obama or the democrat crap platform. But I've gotta say that the LAST 8 years were the repubilcans ignoring us and ramming stuff down our throats, and spending like drunk scallopers. They're ALL bad people...they get elected and that puts them in the "club" and then it's free-for-all in our wallets. They all need a big boot in the ass.
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My take on this from the GOP is throw out the Gambino family (Dems) and install the Genovese family instead.....When I saw Newt Gingrich in the ad, this thought came to mind.....Newt had his run and did some good things, now it's time for him and those like him to step aside.....It's time for the libertarian wing of the party to take control.
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The 1911 guy was with Rick Perry Gov. of TEXAS.
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My take on this from the GOP is throw out the Gambino family (Dems) and install the Genovese family instead.....When I saw Newt Gingrich in the ad, this thought came to mind.....Newt had his run and did some good things, now it's time for him and those like him to step aside.....It's time for the libertarian wing of the party to take control.
So, you want to see a Party more in line with FQ's thinking ?
Libertarians are more full of crap than the major Party's.
Vote for some one who drives and older car and doesn't tip in restaurants.
And for you idiots that think your (D) guy is "different", not if he wants campaign funds he isn't.
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Two words can fix this crap. Ron Paul.
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Two words can fix this crap. Ron Paul. Tom Bogan
Write in Tom and Tom in 2012.
Change you won't freaking believe.
The American economy is going in the crapper. The causes of this have been argued with varying degrees of honesty and knowledge by everyone and his cousin, the fact is that it has been building since the founding of the privately owned, misnamed, “Federal Reserve Board” and was exacerbated by FDR implementing his socialistic policies that lengthened the LAST depression. Taking America off the gold standard left us with a currency backed by the integrity of the most UNETHICAL segment of our population, in other words ,congress. Govt meddling in economic matters is what CAUSES economic problems, not what cures them.
Since then the general trend has been that Republicans try to limit government growth and spending, while Democrats seek to expand their appeal through “Social programs” ranging from welfare to Social security benefits for illegal aliens. You will note that I used the words “generally” and “trend”, that is because to many (more than 0) misguided Republicans have believed the socialist Democrat BS that “it’s for the children” and have supported these handouts, when in fact the sole purpose of “Social Programs” is to buy votes for the Democratic party.
Those who watch the Stock market will have noticed that while the economy showed signs of a looming recession prior to the Presidential Campaign since the nomination of Barack HUSSEIN Obama the stock market has lost close to half it’s value. Why this sudden collapse? Because Obama and the Democrats, like Hitler, have told us what they have planned and it is a strategy that has resulted in failure every time it has been tried, not only in the former Soviet Union and other failed states, but in America as well under carter, which resulted in a huge (then) budget deficit, “negative economic growth”, and unemployment and inflation figures over 10%.
Since I recently got laid off I also have been considering the situation, and I feel the solution is fairly simply. Here are my 11 steps to a strong, stable economy.
1) Quit the UN abrogate all treaties we have with them and kick them out of America. They drain large amounts of money from us with their fraud riddled aid programs to countries that seldom or never support us. Will poor third worlders starve ? Of course they will, they have been doing it for thousands of years and will continue to do so until they get their acts together and A) quit breeding like rats, and B) Establish stable HONEST governments. Despite the BS coming from the “Do Googers” not all societies are amenable to “democracy”, some, especially where education is lacking, or, as is the case in Afghanistan, the “warrior spirit” is a bit TO pervasive the need is for a STRONG dictator, but the main focus must be on honesty among the leaders instead of the current crop of cleptocrats.
2)Get rid of ALL illegal aliens Give them 30 days to leave on their own with their stuff if they register on their way out they get on a fast track to come back LEGALLY (with all the paperwork, medical checks, fees etc. ) After 30 days they get chucked across the border with what they are wearing, everything else is forfeited to compensate for the expense they have cost. This does not violate any amendments as they were proceeds of crime.Sanctuary cities lose all federal funding until they comply with federal law, State and local politicians who implemented them are charged with Federal Conspiracy violations. ( US Constitution Article 1 Sec 8 Clause 4:To establish a uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;) It is said that this would cost taxpayers over $200 million, however illegal aliens drain the economy of over $300 million per year, so even with the initial cost of $200 Million we would still see a savings of about $1TRILLION during the first 4 years.
3) Legalize Pot, Heroin and Cocaine, and tax them just like cigarettes and booze. The war on drugs has been a money pit since it’s beginning, it was never anything more than a jobs program for Prohibition agents and the drug problem that did not exist BEFORE criminalization only gets worse. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and expecting different results. Prohibition led to a huge rise in alcoholism, and made several gangsters very rich, like Joe Kennedy, and Al Capone, it created an entirely new type of criminal in the bootlegger and caused an explosion of violent crime, even the Govt had to admit it was a flop. So then they did the EXACT SAME THING with drugs. Tax income, No DEA fewer judges and police, fewer lawsuits for raiding the wrong place, less incentive for corruption. I have no clue how much tax revenue this would generate, however tobacco and alcohol taxes are probably a good indicator, but we would save the hundreds of millions of dollars currently flushed annually on a blatantly failed policy.
4) Do away with “income Tax, and the Fed, National sales tax, those who SPEND more PAY more. If the fed is running the economy what the hell is the Treasury Dept. doing ? Treasury is supposed to be the nations finance Dept, making the collections and payments. Cut the business profits tax or eliminate it completely, businesses need capital to expand and create new jobs, that money comes from profits. And despite the bleatings of the socialist sheep,”profit” is not a dirty word, it is the reward for doing good work. The Soviet Union is an example of an economy where there was no profit incentive.
5) Bring home ALL ARMY troops not engaged in active operations and put them on the borders, cut the size of that force by 50%, The job of the Army is DEFENDING our borders, not spending dollars in Korea and Germany, If we need to project force, that is what the Navy and Marine Corps were started for, now the Air Force joins them.
6) Cut Senate and Congressional pay by 25% staff by 75% limit of 2 terms, no pensions, no senate bank or health care, They need to live the same as the rest of us. (And ENFORCE the damn ETHICS rules). Not only would this save money on salaries,and pensions for every party hack who can weasel a term in office, we would get better Government out of it because the elected officials would actually have to READ the Bills they were talking about and voting on.
7) Eliminate Govt. agencies and Departments, the Constitutions first article clearly defines the authority and responsibilities of Govt. no other agencies are needed or legal. Again a huge savings in salaries, benefits,pensions and real estate costs.
8)Tariffs on imported goods, an extra 10% charge if made overseas by an American owned Company, No charge for Foreign owned companies manufacturing HERE. With the cut or eliminated “profits tax” this would make American labor profitable for American companies and bring some, if not all of our jobs back from Mexico, China, and India. More jobs equals more people spending equals more revenue from the national sales tax.
9) No more Foreign aid. On top of what the UN leaches from us we yearly send billions of dollars to countries that either hate us or allow their corrupt officials to steal most of it.
10) No vote for welfare recipients, They do not contribute to prosperity they deserve no say in how it is managed. THIS WOULD NOT APPLY TO RETIREE’S or those drawing pensions or unemployment, those are earned benefits not charity. Social Security would be placed back in a trust fund as intended financed in part by a fine levied on the Democratic party for their complicity in Johnson’s initial theft and for helping Clinton give Social security benefits to people who are committing a crime by even being here any profits from the assets of forcibly deported aliens could also be deposited to this account. Any future politician who attempted to remove it would be guilty of theft and removed from office with prejudice.
11) Charity returned to the community where it belongs, people who have hard times get help, dead beat leeches can starve.
In discussing this with friends they commented that I had not mentioned going back on the gold or silver standard. They are correct, I had thought of that but discarded it as being to complex a proposition for me to work through. Here’s why, if you set the value of the $ at 1/2 of one ounce of silver, just to allow each of our 300 million people convert $100 would require over 75,000 TONS of silver. Where would it come from ? I don’t know if the entire worlds production has reach that amount.While I agree that an “Inherent value currency” is a must for a stable economy I don’t have the knowledge to suggest how it would be implemented.
Harsh ? Probably. Will people get hurt that don’t deserve to ? Some. But it will hurt far less people than if the economy melts down and it is sustainable if severe enough penalties are put in place so the do gooder a$$holes can’t screw it up again.
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Oddly enough, I largely agree with the 11 points. I think it goes too far at some points (big surprise), but in principle, I'm on board. I doubt I'm alone. I think a large part of the country, minus the religious right and the Huffington Post set agrees, at least in spirit. So where are the major parties? Why isn't a candidate speaking to this? We all know the structural hurdles. However, if BO has done one good thing in his life its to prove the machine can be beaten. The nomination should have been Hillary's. McCain should have been able to beat a teenager with no experience. They didn't, and frankly, a large percentage of folks who voted for him didn't. They just voted against. So what happens when we get a candidate the great unwashed can actually vote for? ;D
FQ13
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I'll sign up.
In contrast to FQ, I'd have said it didn't go far enough in a couple of minor areas.
Nothing there a Libertarian wouldn't love.
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They all need a big boot in the ass.
+1 from Crusader. Throw the bums out. Every one of them who has ever voted for an expansion of government or some additional tax, fee, or assessment needs to find a new job. We have already given our grandkids an impossible debt to overcome. We need to stop digging a deeper hole. The alternative is to learn to speak Chinese,and I'm too old for language lessons. Hell, I can barely speak English without stuttering and spitting on myself--especially when I get to talking about the current state of affairs.
I saw my new favorite button the other day: I Miss Ike! Hell, I Even Miss Harry.
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Write in Tom and Tom in 2012.
Change you won't freaking believe.
6) Cut Senate and Congressional pay by 25% staff by 75% limit of 2 terms, no pensions, no senate bank or health care, They need to live the same as the rest of us. (And ENFORCE the damn ETHICS rules). Not only would this save money on salaries,and pensions for every party hack who can weasel a term in office, we would get better Government out of it because the elected officials would actually have to READ the Bills they were talking about and voting on.
I have what I think is a better way on this:
Senate and Congressional pay should be the average household (NET) income of Americans for the previous year. When calculating this figure include welfare recipients as negative net earnings. This will give them incentive to see that people keep their money and stop finding ways to nickel and dime us to death. It would also keep congressional pay in line with the people that they represent. Hopefully eliminating some of the elitist mentality. Also don't allow lawmakers to exempt themselves from ANY legislation. If it's good enough for us, it's damn well good enough for them.
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I feel not only blessed, but downright PROUD to be on the same ticket with you, my friend!!