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Title: Obama calls black people "mongrel people"
Post by: ericire12 on July 29, 2010, 02:27:01 PM
While on The View:

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/111611-obama-calls-african-americans-a-mongrel-people-

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When asked about his background, which includes a black father and white mother, Obama said of African-Americans: "We are sort of a mongrel people."

"I mean we're all kinds of mixed up," Obama said. "That's actually true of white people as well, but we just know more about it."

The president's remarks were directed at the roots of all Americans. The definition of mongrel as an adjective is defined as "of mixed breed, nature, or origin," according to dictionary.com.


Obama did not appear to be making an inflammatory remark with his statement and the audience appeared to receive it in the light-hearted manner that often accompanies interviews on morning talk shows.


Title: Re: Obama calls black people "mongrel people"
Post by: PegLeg45 on July 29, 2010, 02:34:51 PM
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Obama did not appear to be making an inflammatory remark with his statement and the audience appeared to receive it in the light-hearted manner that often accompanies interviews on morning talk shows.


I wonder how it would have been 'received' if it had been any other president that had said that?
Title: Re: Obama calls black people "mongrel people"
Post by: ericire12 on July 29, 2010, 02:38:54 PM

I wonder how it would have been 'received' if it had been any other president that had said that?

Head shot!
Title: Re: Obama calls black people "mongrel people"
Post by: ericire12 on July 29, 2010, 02:44:04 PM

I wonder how it would have been 'received' if it had been any other president that had said that?





I will also add that by definition it is a racist comment, and any white person would be run out of town....

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/mongrel

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mon·grel (mnggrl, mng-)
n.
1. An animal or a plant resulting from various interbreedings, especially a dog of mixed or undetermined breed.
2. A cross between different breeds, groups, or varieties, especially a mixture that is or appears to be incongruous.
adj.
Of mixed origin or character.

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[Middle English, probably from mong, mixture, from Old English gemang; see mag- in Indo-European roots.]

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mon·grelism n.
mongrel·ly adv.

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition copyright ©2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Updated in 2009. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.


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mongrel [ˈmʌŋgrəl]
n
1. (Life Sciences & Allied Applications / Breeds) a plant or animal, esp a dog, of mixed or unknown breeding; a crossbreed or hybrid
2. (Social Science / Peoples) Derogatory a person of mixed race
adj
of mixed origin, breeding, character, etc.
[from obsolete mong mixture; compare Old English gemong a mingling]

Title: Re: Obama calls black people "mongrel people"
Post by: bafsu92 on July 29, 2010, 05:04:11 PM
If Bush would've said this it would be the lead story on every news channel, breaking news cutting into primetime programming and everyone from Oprah to Rev. Al would be calling for him to resign. Reverse racism is just as bad as "regular" racism. I don't know why the media doesn't see this.
Title: Re: Obama calls black people "mongrel people"
Post by: ericire12 on July 29, 2010, 05:54:51 PM
If Bush would've said this it would be the lead story on every news channel, breaking news cutting into primetime programming and everyone from Oprah to Rev. Al would be calling for him to resign. Reverse racism is just as bad as "regular" racism. I don't know why the media doesn't see this.

Oh, you are just a "typical white person" ;D
Title: Re: Obama calls black people "mongrel people"
Post by: twyacht on July 29, 2010, 06:13:15 PM
Is Mongrel politically correct for mutt?

Just askin' ::)
Title: Re: Obama calls black people "mongrel people"
Post by: ericire12 on July 29, 2010, 06:56:44 PM
Is Mongrel politically correct for mutt?

Just askin' ::)

I think he was trying to explain the "Baby Daddy" syndrome that seems to be running rampid in the black community.
Title: Re: Obama calls black people "mongrel people"
Post by: bafsu92 on July 29, 2010, 07:41:03 PM
Oh, you are just a "typical white person" ;D
Well at least I'm not a mongrel... 8)
Title: Re: Obama calls black people "mongrel people"
Post by: tombogan03884 on July 29, 2010, 09:52:36 PM
   RACIST !

But it doesn't count if you are a  spick, or porch monkey.
Title: Re: Obama calls black people "mongrel people"
Post by: fightingquaker13 on July 30, 2010, 01:37:28 AM
Well at least I'm not a mongrel... 8)
BS! If you are white and from the South, odds` are, you are a little bit mongrel. My cousin adopted a black foster kid. My Uncle's response? "Well, he won't be the first black McCoullgh". Truer words were never spoken.
FQ13 Who thinks speaking the truth should trump PC BS.
Title: Re: Obama calls black people "mongrel people"
Post by: philw on July 30, 2010, 08:30:19 AM
I am not a Racist   I try to hate everyone so no one misses out

Title: Re: Obama calls black people "mongrel people"
Post by: bafsu92 on July 30, 2010, 09:52:48 AM
BS! If you are white and from the South, odds` are, you are a little bit mongrel. My cousin adopted a black foster kid. My Uncle's response? "Well, he won't be the first black McCoullgh". Truer words were never spoken.
FQ13 Who thinks speaking the truth should trump PC BS.
I'm the first generation from the South and have seen extensive genealogy. I'm a mongrel to the point that everyone is though, a mix of mostly Irish, English, German and Belgian with enough American Indian to just miss out on casino revenue sharing. Not that I'd really care if my great, great, great uncle made a trip out to the slave quarters, I mean it was good enough for Jefferson right? ;D
Title: Re: Obama calls black people "mongrel people"
Post by: crusader rabbit on July 30, 2010, 10:28:29 AM
I think y'll are missing the greater meaning...  After all, Odamna is the Smartest President Ever so he is unlikely to make a mistake 'splainin' hisseff... 

What he was tryin' to say was the he personally is an S.O.B.

Who can argue with that?

The man has a keen eye for the obvious.

Offered by Crusader who is not and never will be an apologist for this mongrel administration.
Title: Re: Obama calls black people "mongrel people"
Post by: tt11758 on July 30, 2010, 11:21:59 AM
I think y'll are missing the greater meaning...  After all, Odamna is the Smartest President Ever so he is unlikely to make a mistake 'splainin' hisseff... 

What he was tryin' to say was the he personally is an S.O.B.

Who can argue with that?

The man has a keen eye for the obvious.

Offered by Crusader who is not and never will be an apologist for this mongrel administration.


I knew he was a bastard.  Hadn't considered the SOB angle.

Thanks CR, for broadening my horizons.
Title: Re: Obama calls black people "mongrel people"
Post by: PegLeg45 on July 30, 2010, 04:36:47 PM
BS! If you are white and from the South, odds` are, you are a little bit mongrel. My cousin adopted a black foster kid. My Uncle's response? "Well, he won't be the first black McCoullgh". Truer words were never spoken.
FQ13 Who thinks speaking the truth should trump PC BS.

Heck, FQ, I agree with you.....to an extent, it's just semantics. My family name and roots go back to a group, or 'tribe' of folks in the Appalachians called Melungeons (highly mixed breeds). They are 'famous' for being a hybrid band of families. But I have never referred to myself or any of my family as 'mongrels' (even if in a way we are).
For the most part, the use of the term 'mongrel' by his majesty the BHO is not, in and of itself, what riled me. It was merely the blatant hypocrisy that we all know is there. If any other person, particularly a white person, had used the exact same wording on national TV, there would have been news stories for months on the crap-storm it caused. Just refer to the guy (David Howard) that used the term 'niggardly' in a staff meeting in the DC mayors office and was subsequently crucified by the media. If Howard had been Black, business as usual.




http://www.melungeons.com/articles/jan2003.htm

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/niggardly
http://www.adversity.net/special/niggardly.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversies_about_the_word_%22niggardly%22
Title: Re: Obama calls black people "mongrel people"
Post by: tombogan03884 on July 30, 2010, 04:42:58 PM
My understanding was that the Melungeon's were NOT mongrels, but were genetically closer than most bloodlines
Title: Re: Obama calls black people "mongrel people"
Post by: PegLeg45 on July 30, 2010, 05:02:32 PM
My understanding was that the Melungeon's were NOT mongrels, but were genetically closer than most bloodlines

I've heard the term 'tri-racial' used to describe them. There is an ongoing DNA study trying to trace roots and such. From what I have read, the main three races are White, Indian, and Black......with a little Spaniard and/or Portuguese and Scotch thrown in for good measure.
I guess some 'genetic closeness' could stem from their strict isolationism several hundred years ago.

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A few generations ago, children in Tennessee, Virginia and surrounding areas were told, “If you don’t behave, the Melungeons will get you!” Many people grew up believing the Melungeons were simply an Appalachian version of the boogeyman – a fearsome and mysterious but mythical bit of folklore.

From the mid-19th century to the mid-20th century, occasional newspaper and magazine articles affirmed that the Melungeons were real and that they lived in isolation because of their mysterious ethnic heritage – presumed by non-Melungeons to be a mixture of white, black, and Indian. In the past decade, books, magazines, and (especially) the Internet have fed an increasing interest in Melungeons. Genealogists have traced many of the families, DNA studies have offered some tantalizing hints, but the story of the Melungeons remains – to use the term most often employed by journalists over the years – “mysterious.”

The Melungeons are a group of mixed ethnic ancestry first documented in northeastern Tennessee and southwestern Virginia. Similar groups of “mysterious” people, or at least remnants of these groups, are found all along the Atlantic seaboard. While these other groups have no known connection to the Melungeons, they have historically suffered similar problems due to the difficulty of placing them within an established racial category. Anthropologists called them “racial islands” or “tri-racial isolates.”

http://www.melungeon.org/node/4