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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: WymoreWrangler on March 21, 2007, 01:14:23 PM
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I'd like to see someone do a show on medical treatments for gunshots. As much as we all like to consider ourselves safe, some time were are going to run into a accident on the range. the field, or when the bad guy gets a round into one of our family and we've got minutes to save their life. I've brought this to the attention of the NRA, but they don't want to talk about gunshot wounds only basic first aide. I was going through Brigade Quartermasters catalog and found a powder they use in the military to help stop bleeding, I'm going to chuck out fifty or sixty dollars and buy two packages to donate for my CAS club, were out in the country and I'd like to think we are prepared to save someone's life if we had to. So Michael how about a segment on true first aid gear for the range and home....
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This is a great idea. Michael, think of the potential new sponsers!
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Instead of shelling out the big bucks for the powder, check out a product called Blood Stop. We use it after we dehorn calves and castrate bull calves, and it sure doesn't cost alot. Check it out at the local rural market store like Mill's, Running's or TSC.
I know it's probably not authorized for humans, but isn't that more of a marketing ploy ($5 a jar for cattle, $50 a jar for humans) than a real risk. Besides, if you need it, someone's been shot!!
Only (partially) kidding. :D
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castrate bull calves
I can see Bane doing the product demonstration now....
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I applaud your willingness to shell out some cash to help others. Good for you!
The 'Quik-clot' powder that is the lastest vogue has drawn interest but I wonder if it can do much more than direct pressure on the wound. Another side benefit of direct pressure is it doesn't burn the flesh. (this burning has also been disputed - some say it does, others say no)
My brief research has come up with the opinions that while QC 'can' work, it is only an adjunct to regular treatment methods.
FIRM direct pressure, a dressing, more FIRM direct pressure and as a last resort - the dreaded tourniquet (a blood pressure cuff works well).
The Fire Dept. I work for as a firefighter paramedic has more money than God. They haven't shelled out ANY money to put this stuff on the trucks. So either my medical director is a neanderthal or he is not impressed.
There are some conflicting reports also: http://www.defensetech.org/archives/000458.html (http://www.defensetech.org/archives/000458.html)
The QC alone is not a cure all for bleeding. You need a stocked first aid kit and proper training in its use or it won't work. Don't make the mistake of buying some QC and thinking all is good. You are on the way, but there is still some goodies needed and some training needed in its use.
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I also want to applaud your willingness to spend $$$ on, and your concern for the safety of your fellow shooters. Have you given any thought to getting the R.O.'s to enroll in an E.M.T class. Or at least haveing someone properly trained ie. 1st Responder, emergancy first aid. I know at my own club it's been a growing concern, more so in the recent years as we're doing a lot more events with youth........ :)
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very good idea,a feminine pad with pressure works well,just have to remember to put one in the old range bag.our range is also in the country
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We did this (sort of) on SG with John Farnam...I'll make sure the Farnam show makes the SG "Classics!"
Michael b
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That one must have been on before I discovered Shooting Gallery, and Michael, Pam say's your having way to much fun!!!!