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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: fightingquaker13 on July 30, 2010, 12:29:46 PM
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Ok, this an embarrasing, but kind of cool story. You yankees might disagree, but as a Southern boy, I have never seen a badger before, despite spending a fair amount of time camping up north.
My dad and I were fishing on Slough Creek in Yellowstone. After two hours and getting zero love from the trout (who can probably tie their own flies with the level of education they have), we decided to adjourn to find dumber fish. On the way, I decided to gather a bunch of firewood from the abundant drift wood. I gave my dad my rod and took his belt so I could make two large bundles of wood. After getting a fair amount, I decided it made more sense to walk high through the sage rather than low on the creek since the wood kept snagging.
Anyway, I was decending into this little pot hole when the sage about twenty feet away started shaking and this weird growling noise started. Now, being a a good swamp redneck, you don't need to tell me twice that that particular combination means you need to find an elsewhere to be and figure out why later. ;D So I dropped the wood and high stepped it upslope a bit. Out comes this badger. He can smell me, but not see me, and is cutting figure eights through the sage making this weird trilling growl and popping his teeth. It was like a combination of a big coon and a hog popping its tusks. It started chewing on one of the belts and kept running around for a good ten minutes or so while I watched. Finally, it went back into its hole and I recovered the wood and left.
As I said, very cool. The funny part is that it would be a hell of a thing to put on your tombstone. "Eaten by a bear"? That has a certain romance to it. "Gored by a buffalo"? Well, it means you were dumb enough to crowd one, but it does have sort of an old west vibe. "Bled out from a badger taking a hunk out your ankle"? That's just embarrassing. ;)
FQ13 who will never view "The Wind in the Willows" the same way gain. Those things are just mean! ;D
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I'm dealing with a family of them that have taken up residence at my grandparents place. Mean little bastards and I swear they have PCP running through their veins. I remember coming across one on a hunting trip. He attacked our truck! 5 hits with 300 win mag and he was still coming at us. I've never seen a more tenacious animal.
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They are tough bastards! MAYBE you could take one out in one shot with a 50 bmg....but I wouldn't bet on it!
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If you're stupid enough to grab one, their skin is loose and they can turn around on you. I think that's the only critter that can do that.
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You would not have lost a chunk of ankle FQ.
Badgers intimidate Grizzly's, you would have been (several ) lunches.
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Wolverines have chunks of tougher critters in their stool.....though I'll never mess with either critter myself!
Jellystone without a gun? WTF?
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Wolverines have chunks of tougher critters in their stool.....though I'll never mess with either critter myself!
Jellystone without a gun? WTF?
Don't own anything big enough to stop a bear, and wasn't worried enough about the people to deal with the hassel of checking or shipping it. Plus the Rangers really don't seem to like that folks can carry. Give them half an excuse and they will screw you. Its not that they are anti (they all pack, I mean I had to clear off some loose .303 from a guys desk so I could fill out an employment form), just that they are pissed that someon else told them how to do their job. Its the down side of Federalist 51. Mostly its good that agencies defend their turf. Sometimes though, it sucks. When it comes to Jellystone, unless you have a concealable .44 mag or.454 casull, I wouldn't bother. You won't need in Livingston or West Yellowstone, and the only thing a 9mm or .45 is good for is putting yourself out of you misery. All it will do to a griz or bison is ensure that they won't enjoy the rest of their day either. As far as shooting a badger? Would you really want to admit to, much less explain that? ;D
FQ13
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Don't own anything big enough to stop a bear, and wasn't worried enough about the people to deal with the hassel of checking or shipping it. Plus the Rangers really don't seem to like that folks can carry. Give them half an excuse and they will screw you. Its not that they are anti (they all pack, I mean I had to clear off some loose .303 from a guys desk so I could fill out an employment form), just that they are pissed that someon else told them how to do their job. Its the down side of Federalist 51. Mostly its good that agencies defend their turf. Sometimes though, it sucks. When it comes to Jellystone, unless you have a concealable .44 mag or.454 casull, I wouldn't bother. You won't need in Livingston or West Yellowstone, and the only thing a 9mm or .45 is good for is putting yourself out of you misery. All it will do to a griz or bison is ensure that they won't enjoy the rest of their day either. As far as shooting a badger? Would you really want to admit to, much less explain that? ;D
FQ13
F them, their likes or dislikes don't have any power over my legal rights, and while they may be able to wreck your vacation, it will leave you in a position to wreck their entire life, and retire on the damages they'll have to pay after being fired from their job.
As for the badger ? If I had to defend my self from one of those viscous little bastards, It would get shot to pieces and I would not be the least ashamed.
Weren't you reading earlier, these little SOB's take on GRIZZ and WIN !
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Hey, a guy killed a Grizz up in Denali with a 1911 a few months ago. If that's all I had, that's what I'd have on me. I don't go into the woods here without my .357 or .45 on me. I lived in Northern California and it's just not wise to go unarmed. Now that we have the rights on our side, regardless of the underhanded way we got the law passed, take advantage of it.....
Dude! Think how that badger pelt hat would look in the S. FL swamps! ;D
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Hey, a guy killed a Grizz up in Denali with a 1911 a few months ago. If that's all I had, that's what I'd have on me. I don't go into the woods here without my .357 or .45 on me. I lived in Northern California and it's just not wise to go unarmed. Now that we have the rights on our side, regardless of the underhanded way we got the law passed, take advantage of it.....
Dude! Think how that badger pelt hat would look in the S. FL swamps! ;D
Among Mountain men they were far more prized than a mere Coonskin, because first you had to kill a Badger ;D
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FQ you have met one of Gods little wrecking machines. There is video of them making griz and wolverines back up. My old man use to say you could put one in a 55 gal drum and it would eat every bad arse creature you threw at it and it would be ready for more.
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Gotta disagree on the badger vs wolverine match up Bulldog.
Wolverine are bigger, can break bone and quite well known for being the meanest little critters in the woods. The badger is a close second but they're omnivores where as the wolverine makes his living killing and eating anything he finds, including other wolverines. It's why they live alone most of their lives, they don't like their own kind.
I'm biased because I'm from Michigan but the wolverine wins in a close fight...
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Badger vs. Monitor Lizard - Kick Ass!!! ;D
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Knew the Monitor at the front door was going to get owned when the HB came out the back door, the only thing missing was "Eeehhh, whatcha hunting there Doc ? " ;D
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Sorry, I've hit bison and grizz with a .45! Both WILL go down with about 4 hits to the head! Badgers may be a BADASS but they'll go down with enough head hits!
McGyver who shoots .45 ammo that's rated at 1150fps, but usually carry's a .357 that'll put the MEANEST bull down with 2rnds!
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How to give FQ nightmares...
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How to give FQ nightmares...
Lord! That would giive anyone with functioning eardrums nightmares. Are we sure this is the same civilization that gave us Bach and Beethoven? Honestly, between techno and rap, I'll take rap any day and no amount of mushrooms will change that. :P
FQ13
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"We don't need no steenkin' badgers!!!"
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Hey, a guy killed a Grizz up in Denali with a 1911 a few months ago. If that's all I had, that's what I'd have on me. I don't go into the woods here without my .357 or .45 on me. I lived in Northern California and it's just not wise to go unarmed. Now that we have the rights on our side, regardless of the underhanded way we got the law passed, take advantage of it.....
Dude! Think how that badger pelt hat would look in the S. FL swamps! ;D
Are you sure that .45 was a 1911. I'd read that the guy shot the bear 9 times. I wouldn't really say that a .45 necessarily stopped the bear either. The bear was charging his girlfriend and he fired rounds into it's side. The bear turned tail, back into the brush, where it bled out. It could have easily decided to munch on the pair before dying.
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FTA.. http://www.adn.com/2010/07/30/1388526/man-who-killed-bear-in-denali.html
"Fister said the area where the shooting took place is known to have a lot of bears. She said the couple was hiking when the man heard a noise in the brush. He turned, drawing his .45-caliber, semi-automatic handgun from a holster on his waist moments before a large grizzly bear emerged and charged the woman.
The man fired seven to nine rounds, stopping the bear. The couple then notified park officials.
Rangers found the bear dead the next day. It was a 434-pound male."
Maybe not a 1911 but it appears to be a .45 ACP... My 1911 carries 8 +1..
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FTA.. http://www.adn.com/2010/07/30/1388526/man-who-killed-bear-in-denali.html
"Fister said the area where the shooting took place is known to have a lot of bears. She said the couple was hiking when the man heard a noise in the brush. He turned, drawing his .45-caliber, semi-automatic handgun from a holster on his waist moments before a large grizzly bear emerged and charged the woman.
The man fired seven to nine rounds, stopping the bear. The couple then notified park officials.
Rangers found the bear dead the next day. It was a 434-pound male."
Maybe not a 1911 but it appears to be a .45 ACP... My 1911 carries 8 +1..
Well, we know it wasn't a Glock because I can guarn-damn-tee you he didn't stop shooting until it was empty. ;D
FQ13
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Well, we know it wasn't a Glock because I can guarn-damn-tee you he didn't stop shooting until it was empty. ;D
FQ13
Now, if they were out with Kodiak weighing 1500 pounds, I don't think I'd be carrying a .45, I'd be carrying something like an RPG...
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Now, if they were out with Kodiak weighing 1500 pounds, I don't think I'd be carrying a .45, I'd be carrying something like an RPG...
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I took a 590 when I went to Admiralty Island. It really wasn't enough gun, but it sure felt good, and the ghost rings were reassuring. Still, a .375 or .458 would have been mo better.FQ13