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Title: Going to Boston what can I carry that won't get me in trouble?
Post by: Majer on August 17, 2010, 08:26:09 PM
The subject line says it all, I need to know if there are any laws that would keep me from carrying a knife. I know you need a permit for Pepper spray and firearms are right out. So can anyone site the law on knives in Mass.? Thanks for any help
Title: Re: Going to Boston what can I carry that won't get me in trouble?
Post by: Timothy on August 17, 2010, 08:38:37 PM
I think the law states 2-1/2" blade length is maximum you can carry.  I can't find any information at hand though.  I carry a small Kershaw with a spring assist blade.  I think it's the Scallion by Ken Onion.

Boston may have additional ordinance restrictions.  Best bet, call the MA state police.
Title: Re: Going to Boston what can I carry that won't get me in trouble?
Post by: fightingquaker13 on August 17, 2010, 08:52:52 PM
A worn looking red Sox cap, a Drop Kick Murphy's T shirt and a smile?
FQ13 ;D
Title: Re: Going to Boston what can I carry that won't get me in trouble?
Post by: Majer on August 17, 2010, 09:34:44 PM
Thanks Timothy, It figures,My Kershaw is on it's way back to the factory for repair... >:( >:(
Will have to see what else I have available
And FQ, Both my Wife and Daughter are METS FANS so no way on the redsox hat. ;D
Title: Re: Going to Boston what can I carry that won't get me in trouble?
Post by: texcaliber on August 17, 2010, 09:59:51 PM
The subject line says it all, I need to know if there are any laws that would keep me from carrying a knife. I know you need a permit for Pepper spray and firearms are right out. So can anyone site the law on knives in Mass.? Thanks for any help

For the trip I would develop the need to use a cane if you are worried about self-defense in Bean Town.
tex 
Title: Re: Going to Boston what can I carry that won't get me in trouble?
Post by: Majer on August 18, 2010, 06:13:25 AM
Unfortunately I have to use a cane from time to time due to arthritis in both knees and heel spurs.With all the walking I'll be doing I will have one with me.
Title: Re: Going to Boston what can I carry that won't get me in trouble?
Post by: fightingquaker13 on August 18, 2010, 06:21:16 AM

And FQ, Both my Wife and Daughter are METS FANS so no way on the redsox hat. ;D
Well, at least they beat the Yankees? :-\ Still, the cane is ideal. No DA can complain. Particularly in PC Boston. I'd reccomend oak with a nice bronze knob. A shilleaghleigh boyo. Dinnae ye kin?
FQ13
Title: Re: Going to Boston what can I carry that won't get me in trouble?
Post by: Timothy on August 18, 2010, 08:03:24 AM
Well, at least they beat the Yankees? :-\ Still, the cane is ideal. No DA can complain. Particularly in PC Boston. I'd reccomend oak with a nice bronze knob. A shilleaghleigh boyo. Dinnae ye kin?
FQ13

It's SHILLELAGH ya overeducated Scot!

Geez..... ;D

Title: Re: Going to Boston what can I carry that won't get me in trouble?
Post by: fightingquaker13 on August 18, 2010, 08:19:15 AM
It's SHILLELAGH ya overeducated Scot!

Geez..... ;D


I'm going to half way stick to my guns. Its saill eille in proper gaelic. The Scots and Irish translations are different. However, to give Path his due, I am now illiterate in four languages. It should, in Scot's translation, have been shilleagh. So, I still lose, but points for effort? :-[ Anyway, its a great honking big stick that you can carry legally. ;D
FQ13
Title: Re: Going to Boston what can I carry that won't get me in trouble?
Post by: jaybet on August 18, 2010, 08:28:49 AM
Cream Pie.
Title: Re: Going to Boston what can I carry that won't get me in trouble?
Post by: Timothy on August 18, 2010, 08:31:49 AM
Anyway, its a great honking big stick that you can carry legally. ;D
FQ13

Stick with that, it's understood without words....kind of like an idiot light on a dashboard....

 ;D
Title: Re: Going to Boston what can I carry that won't get me in trouble?
Post by: texcaliber on August 18, 2010, 09:56:07 AM
I use a cane daily and like the bamboo cane for its light weight but indestructible, as to date, strength.  IMO, it is as strong as a  Shillelagh but can be used one handed. You can also braid para cord  and coat with super glue for an Awesome but discrete kubaton.

Here's a video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHMAKep4Jvc&feature=related
Title: Re: Going to Boston what can I carry that won't get me in trouble?
Post by: ellis4538 on August 18, 2010, 03:00:05 PM
Since you can't carry a gun I would carry a cell phone and good insurance policy.  Also get some training with a cane designed for SD.

JMHOFWIW

Richard

PS:  If you can find a COP light enough to carry that would work also...unless you could get him/her to walk.  LOL
Title: Re: Going to Boston what can I carry that won't get me in trouble?
Post by: texcaliber on August 18, 2010, 03:15:27 PM
Also the most powerful light you can afford for force multiplier in low light. When you get over 100 lumen it will bother dilated pupils and be a good deterrent for those low-light-panhandler situation. I can not believe I forgot  or overlooked this until now. It doesn't have to be an extremity large light but should extend from each side of your closed fist. Also not to worry about the bulbs on impact go with a LED system.
Insight Tec. makes a bunch of options and this is a self-defense option that could be invaluable in a non defensive situation also.
Title: Re: Going to Boston what can I carry that won't get me in trouble?
Post by: texcaliber on August 18, 2010, 03:54:09 PM
Here are a couple of videos for you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wv9Fd1h6t8&feature=related
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6y-lKC3sQjM&feature=more_related
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNnRKKEZq2E

I like the TL-3 best for your situation. Its just my opinion though.

tex
Title: Re: Going to Boston what can I carry that won't get me in trouble?
Post by: twyacht on August 18, 2010, 04:10:43 PM
Tactical Pen? Schrade makes a decent one for $29 bucks. At Wally-World...

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Schrade-Tactical-Pen/14245171?wmlspartner=GPA&sourceid=4444444444_455730115

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/twyacht/0004435620666_500X500.jpg)

In Boston, the "pen" is mightier than the "illegal" sword...... ;)

I'll be here all week, try the veal, and tip your bartenders and waitress's.
Title: Re: Going to Boston what can I carry that won't get me in trouble?
Post by: texcaliber on August 18, 2010, 07:24:18 PM
Tactical Pen? Schrade makes a decent one for $29 bucks. At Wally-World...

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Schrade-Tactical-Pen/14245171?wmlspartner=GPA&sourceid=4444444444_455730115

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/twyacht/0004435620666_500X500.jpg)

In Boston, the "pen" is mightier than the "illegal" sword...... ;)

I'll be here all week, try the veal, and tip your bartenders and waitress's.

I like it .
Title: Re: Going to Boston what can I carry that won't get me in trouble?
Post by: TAB on August 19, 2010, 02:06:38 PM
Your brain,  Chances are very low that if your paying attention anything bad will happen too you. 
Title: Re: Going to Boston what can I carry that won't get me in trouble?
Post by: Timothy on August 19, 2010, 02:33:20 PM
Your brain,  Chances are very low that if your paying attention anything bad will happen too you. 

Boston proper isn't too bad.  The burbs around Boston are not too good depending on a lot of things.  I personally don't go to Boston for anything and won't. 

Once was enough back in 1984 to watch a Tigers/Boston double header...

My daughter and her man go quite frequently which worries me as they are not carrying because they go to party...
Title: Re: Going to Boston what can I carry that won't get me in trouble?
Post by: Majer on August 19, 2010, 05:04:40 PM
Well, I'm back and didn't have to beat anyone with my cane. I always carry a Surefire light on me, they come in handy in so many ways. It looks like my Daughter likes the university that is closer to Foxboro, which is a good thing, Much nicer campus, real Police dept. there and a much better program for what she wants to major in.
Timothy, I do have to ask you , What the HELL is wrong with your state? I went into the Bass Pro Shop to look around and found they had primers at less than what I have been paying and was told that I couldn't buy them because I don't have a Mass.FOID card. I told him I had a NY full carry permit and was told "Welcome to the Peoples republic of Mass." I can't believe that I couldn't even buy reloading components there. He told me that he had a Border Patrol Agent come in to buy some ammo for his carry gun and he couldn't even sell it to him, a Federal Officer. It really blew my mind. Oh well, Rant over.
Thanks for all the advice both good and bad(FQ?)
Title: Re: Going to Boston what can I carry that won't get me in trouble?
Post by: Timothy on August 19, 2010, 05:15:42 PM
Welcome to my nightmare....and for the record, it's not my state, it's the wifes.. ;)

I've been to that Bass Pro a dozen times and technically, without a MA License or FID card, your not allowed to even handle ammunition or firearms in Massachusetts.  I'm out of here in the next couple of weeks anyway.

I've taken a job in CT and will be moving very soon.  Problem for me is it's become a PITA to get a CC license in CT since I left so I'm going to be naked for a few months.  A cane is sounding like a good idea...

Glad your trip to Beantown was uneventful Majer, I think the area around the stadium is pretty safe.  And, it's only a few hours from NY for a visit...
Title: Re: Going to Boston what can I carry that won't get me in trouble?
Post by: Majer on August 19, 2010, 05:20:50 PM
From my driveway to the parking garage in Boston was a little over 4 hours with one stop for gas and breakfast.
Good Luck with your Ct permit, I don't think it's as bad as it looks on paper
Title: Re: Going to Boston what can I carry that won't get me in trouble?
Post by: Timothy on August 19, 2010, 05:34:33 PM
From my driveway to the parking garage in Boston was a little over 4 hours with one stop for gas and breakfast.
Good Luck with your Ct permit, I don't think it's as bad as it looks on paper


Thanks Majer,

It's probably not that bad, the money is most of it.  When I lived there before, I basically hand carried my paperwork through the town to the SP Barracks and had it within a week.  That was 27 years ago....I tossed a coin last year to get my out of state in CT or ME.  I chose ME because we spend more time there.  I picked wrong......I could have carried legally until I change my residency status.  Now I have to forfeit my MA license and re-apply when I gain CT residency.  It's a real pain...

My kingdom for 50 state reciprocity..

Can I ask what school?
Title: Re: Going to Boston what can I carry that won't get me in trouble?
Post by: Majer on August 19, 2010, 05:37:38 PM
It was Stone Hill college. She wants to Major in psychology with a minor in criminal justice(Looking to get a job with the FBI)
Title: Re: Going to Boston what can I carry that won't get me in trouble?
Post by: Timothy on August 19, 2010, 05:45:53 PM
Good for her! 

That's a decent area of the state, outside of Boston and only an hour to the cape.  I don't know anything about the school personally other than it's a private Catholic school.  You can't go wrong there..

Wish her good luck for us...God Bless her in her journey...
Title: Re: Going to Boston what can I carry that won't get me in trouble?
Post by: fightingquaker13 on August 19, 2010, 07:24:18 PM
Thanks for all the advice both good and bad(FQ?)
Hey! The Dropkick Murphys are a great band! ;D
FQ13

Title: Re: Going to Boston what can I carry that won't get me in trouble?
Post by: cevtv on August 20, 2010, 12:52:44 AM
It was Stone Hill college. She wants to Major in psychology with a minor in criminal justice(Looking to get a job with the FBI)

Tell her to stay away from Brockton (Stonehill is in the next town over, Easton).  Trust me - I live in Brockton....not a great place to get lost.
Title: Re: Going to Boston what can I carry that won't get me in trouble?
Post by: tombogan03884 on August 20, 2010, 09:03:54 AM
+ 10 on Brockton, half the career criminals in the Metro area live in Brockton.
As for "Drop Kick Murphys" it might work in South Boston, In East Boston they will get your butt kicked.    ;D