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Member Section => Tactical Rifle & Carbine => Topic started by: texcaliber on August 23, 2010, 11:33:46 AM
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I do not know if it has been talked about before, but chest rigs for the AK are new to me and I am finding out that you can not use the same setup as the AR. Can anyone point or push me in toward the right product or setup?
I am more than a little peeved after pulling out a reload and it catching another full mag and ripping it out also, which landed on my foot. The end result was a TON of profanity and a little bruising of foot and ego.
tex
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TEX, Ain't them cowboy boots gotz steel toes?
;D
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I don't have any of these guys gear because as much as I would use it...it is a little to expensive for me. http://www.originalsoegear.com/ Rob interviewed the owner the first season of SWAT Mag tv
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http://www.onesourcetactical.com/
Some good stuff here. Bill T.
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Check out the stuff from US Palm. They also make the best AK mags bar none: http://sgcusa.com/US-PALM/c278/index.html?osCsid=e92fd16d052380dd66d20f36b3b5540c (http://sgcusa.com/US-PALM/c278/index.html?osCsid=e92fd16d052380dd66d20f36b3b5540c)
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TEX, Ain't them cowboy boots gotz steel toes?
;D
Nope, and these MassHoles put a full-out-ban on my Cowboy-boots.
Grrrr. ;)
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http://www.onesourcetactical.com/
Some good stuff here. Bill T.
A lot of stuff Bill but not what I am looking for. Thanks for the link anyway, tex
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Check out the stuff from US Palm. They also make the best AK mags bar none: http://sgcusa.com/US-PALM/c278/index.html?osCsid=e92fd16d052380dd66d20f36b3b5540c (http://sgcusa.com/US-PALM/c278/index.html?osCsid=e92fd16d052380dd66d20f36b3b5540c)
Another cool site, thank you.
It seems a simple chest rig for the Ak is going to prove difficult to get.
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http://www.skdtac.com/Eagle_AK47_Chest_Rig_6_Mag_p/eag.572.htm
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/AKS701-1.html
http://www.patriotoutfitters.com/scripts/pr.exe/sbproc.prg?action=catsearch&Scope=0&searchstring=vest&OVRAW=tactical%20vest&OVKEY=tactical%20vest&OVMTC=standard&OVADID=1382323522&OVKWID=10973214022&OVCAMPGID=132492022&OVADGRPID=695861910&OVNDID=ND2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUKpMoHVVU4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn9hpXfK2SY&feature=related
7.62 Tactical...
Hope it helps.
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I think TW hit a bullseye with the Eagle Chest Rig. I am going to look into getting one if I am not pushed away.
Thanks for the information.
tex
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Another cool site, thank you.
It seems a simple chest rig for the Ak is going to prove difficult to get.
Here is a cheaper work around. Its no longer available from Cheaper Than Dirt, but someone will have one. I did something simlar with my AR. I bought 2, 6 mag bandoleer style shoulder strap carriers with six mag pouches. Over the shoulder, out the door, and good to go. $16 each. This bag seems solid, holds 5 mags, and though its over the shoulder, should work.
good luck
FQ13
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/BAG187-1.html
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A lot of stuff Bill but not what I am looking for. Thanks for the link anyway, tex
Did you see the AKAR AK attack rack or was it just a little more than what you were looking for?
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Here is a cheaper work around. Its no longer available from Cheaper Than Dirt, but someone will have one. I did something simlar with my AR. I bought 2, 6 mag bandoleer style shoulder strap carriers with six mag pouches. Over the shoulder, out the door, and good to go. $16 each. This bag seems solid, holds 5 mags, and though its over the shoulder, should work.
good luck
FQ13
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/BAG187-1.html
These work good 2, I've got about 4 or 5 of them: http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ZAA024-1.html (http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ZAA024-1.html)
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These work good 2, I've got about 4 or 5 of them: http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ZAA024-1.html (http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ZAA024-1.html)
Not what I was looking for but you got me wanting me to order a couple anyhow and give them a try until I get TW's suggested EagleRig . At worst they look like they will be good for the extended-fight-setup or go-bag-accessory. Thanks for the link bafsu
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I know AR's are the in vogue as of late, but you might want to consider the usage of AK's and Dragunov's in the next season of TBD, so these common questions are answered. I am seeing an influx of AK and Dragunov related questions(along with surplus rifles chambered alike) at the Shop. So much so, this is the original reason for my practicing/playing/aggravation with one in the first place. >:(
If I should repost this in another Chat Room on DRTV Forum let me know. ???
This is VERY far from my strong suit, so I will not be offended. :-[
Thanks,
tex
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I know AR's are the in vogue as of late, but you might want to consider the usage of AK's and Dragunov's in the next season of TBD, so these common questions are answered. I am seeing an influx of AK and Dragunov related questions(along with surplus rifles chambered alike) at the Shop. So much so, this is the original reason for my practicing/playing/aggravation with one in the first place. >:(
If I should repost this in another Chat Room on DRTV Forum let me know. ???
This is VERY far from my strong suit, so I will not be offended. :-[
Thanks,
tex
The AR craze seems like its hit its peak. The BO panic seems to have ebbed (though stay tuned for election results). Folks like me who did panic and bought an EBR they didn't really need now think that maybe they could find a better use for that $1200. This is particularly true for those who bought the "tacticool" coffee grinder for the quad rail. ::) AKs meanwhile are back to close to '07 prices, around $400. I was in Bozeman recently and went to a camping/gun store. It seems BillT's brother had gotten a divorce and had to sell his gun collection. :o ;D. There were 4 (I swear I'm not making this up) matched sets of Stag ARs with all the trimmings. Two in M-4 configuration, two with a flat top 20" barrel etc. ;D Anyway, they were priced high, but fair. Then there was the set of two (again I'm not kidding) AKs. They were just Wassers, a bit beat on and priced around $335. Not a bargain, but fair. What did strike me was this, the price of the mags. The guy had sold a ton. The AR mags (mostly P-mags) were at market value. But there was God's own stash of AK mags. These were unissued Bulgarian com bloc mil surp steel at $20 a pop, and $15 a throw if you bought all 20 of them. If I'd had the cash, it would have been worth buying the rifle just for the mags and the stupidly cheap cases of tin sealed Norinco ammo the guy was selling (about $.20 per round). I just couldn't swing it, but it does indicate to me that folks have fixated on ARs for so long that AKs have been neglected. When the panic buyers start selling their guns and there are a fait number of cheap(er) ARs out there, I would expect to see AKs and accessories like mags to go even lower. I might be wrong, but I think that a lot more folks will start going AK for the same reasons they always have, to save money on a reliable SHTF weapon.
Just my .02
FQ13
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FQ, did you just agree with me?
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FQ, did you just agree with me?
Scary huh? Don't worry, it won't last. ;) Seriously, I really do think the AR thing has been played out. I like mine, but I was set on an AK until a "deal" came up on an AR (and it was a deal at the time). $680 and change for a DPMS Sportical and P-mags at $11 a pop with the gun. It was $100 below market, but $150 more than its actually objectively worth IMHO. :-\ I like my rifle and I won't part with it, but honestly? An AK would have been a better fit for my needs. I think more folks are starting to realizze that now that the "now or never" attitude is waning. I could be wrong though.
FQ13
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I'm still buying P-Mags (black with windows) all day long for around $11 as long as I do 10 or more at a time. If I buy bigger lots I can get closer to $10ea. If anyone wants to go in on a bulk buy with me shoot me an IM - sorry for the hijack ;D
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I'm still buying P-Mags (black with windows) all day long for around $11 as long as I do 10 or more at a time. If I buy bigger lots I can get closer to $10ea. If anyone wants to go in on a bulk buy with me shoot me an IM - sorry for the hijack ;D
Nothing wrong with stocking up, Col. Jeff Cooper's advice was always one to keep personal stocks high.
In today's world, and current Admin, there is nothing wrong with that.
If the AR/AK panic has played out,...great...It is still a stroke of a pen, from creating another panic buy.
And never forget:
"I hear that small arms ammunition in South Africa has practically disappeared from the store shelves. Either people are wisely stocking up, or some arm of the government has decided to cut off the supply. In that regard, I advise you to keep your own stocks in good shape. Our enemies may not be able to abrogate the constitution just yet, but there are economic and political means by which they may dry up our ammunition supply."
Jeff Cooper
"I would add another reason - practice. Anyone who has ever been deeply involved in warfare knows that the only way to learn to fight is to fight. This may not be a popular view with the grass eaters, but I defy them to disprove it."
Jeff Cooper
Wish Col. Cooper were still with us, but he is in spirit, and his advice is not a bad thing.
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Nothing wrong with stocking up, Col. Jeff Cooper's advice was always one to keep personal stocks high.
In today's world, and current Admin, there is nothing wrong with that.
If the AR/AK panic has played out,...great...It is still a stroke of a pen, from creating another panic buy.
And never forget:
"I hear that small arms ammunition in South Africa has practically disappeared from the store shelves. Either people are wisely stocking up, or some arm of the government has decided to cut off the supply. In that regard, I advise you to keep your own stocks in good shape. Our enemies may not be able to abrogate the constitution just yet, but there are economic and political means by which they may dry up our ammunition supply."
Jeff Cooper
"I would add another reason - practice. Anyone who has ever been deeply involved in warfare knows that the only way to learn to fight is to fight. This may not be a popular view with the grass eaters, but I defy them to disprove it."
Jeff Cooper
Wish Col. Cooper were still with us, but he is in spirit, and his advice is not a bad thing.
Absolutely, in a full on SHTF scenario quality magazines and standard caliber ammo will be like currency. I would like to get an AK or 2 but then I need mags and ammo for them as well. I am pretty well stocked on AR's and what I need for them (5 complete rifles, another 6 or 7 lowers, a couple LRPK's, tons of assorted springs, pins etc. 100+ USGI contract mags, 50 or so assorted P-Mags and about 15k rds of 5.56) I've actually thinned out my pistol collection by a couple and used the money from that to make sure I had at least 8 mags for every pistol left (up to 25 for some) and 5k ea. of .45 and 9mm ammo. My next step is to get a couple .357's since I only have one at the moment. I like the versatility they offer.
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After Katrina, when they declared it a "National emergency" they declared that no citizens were to have any kind of firearm at all. Police and military went door to door searching homes for ANY firearms. Even completely non-functional ones were confiscated. Check youtube for many, many video's.
Also consider that when TSHTF any person willing to buy / trade for ammo is also not going to think twice about killing you to take all you got. And you just gave him the ammo to do it! When people are hungry, desperate, and realize THEIR personal lives are in danger, a rabid wild dog is more predictable and safe to be around.
You KNOW your thinking. "I'll make sure I'm smarter, and in a better controlling position than the other guy."... If YOUR thinking it. EVERYBODY else is to... ANY encounter = "There will be blood." :(
It's more a question of who's going to pull first.
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After Katrina, when they declared it a "National emergency" they declared that no citizens were to have any kind of firearm at all. Police and military went door to door searching homes for ANY firearms.
Let's not forget the mercenaries from Blackwater.
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These work good 2, I've got about 4 or 5 of them: http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ZAA024-1.html (http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ZAA024-1.html)
I agree. I've had one of these Ace Case mag bags for several years. It's held up well during many range trips, reloading practice drills, etc. My only modification was to ditch the plastic o-ring connecting the strap to the bag, replacing it will a metal carabiner. It's a lot stronger and allows me to snap the bag into a belt loop, thus keeping it from flopping around as I run, assume various shooting positions, etc.
While the bag has six cells, I only use three. Each holds two Bulgarian 5.56 mags without a problem. I don't know if they can hold a pair of slightly thicker 7.62 mags. The remaining three cells hold various gear I may need in an emergency - extra batteries for the dot sight, a small sheath knife, Israeli battle dressing, etc.