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Title: A Realistic View Of Unemployment In This Country
Post by: billt on August 30, 2010, 06:41:28 AM
http://cohort11.americanobserver.net/latoyaegwuekwe/multimediafinal.html

This realistically paints a graphic picture of this country's unemployment situation. So much for Hussein's "Summer Of Recovery".   Bill T.
Title: Re: A Realistic View Of Unemployment In This Country
Post by: Hazcat on August 30, 2010, 07:09:37 AM
Notice it all started AFTER the Dems took over congress!
Title: Re: A Realistic View Of Unemployment In This Country
Post by: tombogan03884 on August 30, 2010, 11:14:45 AM
Take notes on what these azzholes do for "recovery", starting with "Bailouts" and continuing through stimulus, and all the other BS.
Compare this to the efforts of FDR in the 30's or Japan in the 80's.
You will be able to write a text book on how not to fix the economy.
They are literally screwing up by the book.
Title: Re: A Realistic View Of Unemployment In This Country
Post by: GUNS-R-US on August 30, 2010, 11:21:15 AM
I think ND, SD, NB, and KS, look like a pretty good place to ride out the recession!!
Title: Re: A Realistic View Of Unemployment In This Country
Post by: r_w on August 30, 2010, 12:00:55 PM
I think ND, SD, NB, and KS, look like a pretty good place to ride out the recession!!

Looks can be deceiving. 
Title: Re: A Realistic View Of Unemployment In This Country
Post by: JC5123 on August 30, 2010, 12:27:57 PM
Looks can be deceiving. 

Very true, it's not that they are doing well, it's just that they don't have as many people to lay off.
Title: Re: A Realistic View Of Unemployment In This Country
Post by: billt on August 30, 2010, 12:52:51 PM
I think ND, SD, NB, and KS, look like a pretty good place to ride out the recession!!

Yes, if you have a family who owns land and have experience, along with equipment in agriculture. Just like Jeremiah Johnson showed in the 1830's, if you know how to do it, it's possible, and even profitable to live off the land. All people must eat, and they'll pay to do it, especially if the government subsidises them.  Bill T.
Title: Re: A Realistic View Of Unemployment In This Country
Post by: TAB on August 30, 2010, 01:55:14 PM
I think ND, SD, NB, and KS, look like a pretty good place to ride out the recession!!


also remember the extreme northern states, are seasonal for most jobs.  They always need people in the summer, come winter it will be another story.
Title: Re: A Realistic View Of Unemployment In This Country
Post by: billt on August 30, 2010, 02:03:38 PM
I think ND, SD, NB, and KS, look like a pretty good place to ride out the recession!!

Also, there is a reason houses cost $15,000.00 in North Dakota.  Bill T.
Title: Re: A Realistic View Of Unemployment In This Country
Post by: Badgersmilk on August 30, 2010, 07:44:00 PM
Local news and unemployment office have been saying its at 10.3 for SC for some weeks now...  I'm inclined to believe them, which makes this map still pretty conservative!   :(
Title: Re: A Realistic View Of Unemployment In This Country
Post by: Pathfinder on August 30, 2010, 07:45:02 PM
also remember the extreme northern states, are seasonal for most jobs.  They always need people in the summer, come winter it will be another story.

Also, there is a reason houses cost $15,000.00 in North Dakota.  Bill T.

All right youse guys, I guess I gotta set you all straight.

There are damn few seasonal jobs here in ND. Yes, farming is seasonal, but the unemployment numbers do NOT reflect agricultural labor, which here in ND tends to be extended family and/or neighbors. A lot of people I know actually work full-time, with the understanding that they will take time off to harvest their farms. The only seasonal aspect is that contract wheat/canola/bean harvesters come through the state, but they do not contribute to the count.

ND has ca. 640,000 people, and most are and have been gainfully employed. It was a kommifornia bank - who told us for months there was nothing to worry about, we did not play in the troubled asset pond - who laid my sorry butt off after it turned out -- well, they did play in that pond! We have major manufacturing, including a bunch of John Deere plants, Case, and even a company that manufactures the huge commercial wind charger towers. They are producing like crazy these days.

In Bismarck, there is less industry, and most of the jobs are fast food or retail. White collar opportunities there are limited too.

We also have a state budget surplus (nya, nya kommifornia!) in part due to the oil fields in the upper NW part of the state - which run year round.

Unemployment is truly low in ND. Not zero, but there are "Now Hiring" signs around town, and the local paper has a sizable Jobs section every Sunday.

And Billt, 15 large won't even pay for the damn insulation in the houses!!!!! ;D  OK, maybe on the res, but then you're looking at a single-wide.
Title: Re: A Realistic View Of Unemployment In This Country
Post by: GUNS-R-US on August 31, 2010, 03:02:19 AM
Thanks Path! You guys are hard core!!!! All I meant is 5% is better than 10% of unemployment regardless of where you live. A percentage is a percentage, it's not a hard number. I certainly don't have any plans on moving for a better employment rate, and for most people that's not a very realistic answer to the problem. Out west here lots of jobs are seasonal and I doubt that any of those states have more or less of those type jobs than we have here in Washington, Oregon, Idaho, or Montana. We might have more white collar jobs than they do, but agriculturally speaking their are still a lot of farms here that require manual labor to "pick" the crops probably as many as those central states have. And Badger remember that those numbers are good up till May 2010 so they're a full quarter behind. Folk's I don't think the map's that deceiving either, judging by the way the map turned colors the unemployment rate in the states I mentioned for the time frame didn't change much more that 2% on average for most of those states. While most of the rest of the country changed 6% or or more in the same time frame. So I rather my area had a 5% vs. 10% unemployment rate like say Nebraska has. Just a thought!
Title: Re: A Realistic View Of Unemployment In This Country
Post by: TAB on August 31, 2010, 03:53:46 AM
so construction is not a seasonal job there? 


oho yeah, my county has a surplus too and has more population...
Title: Re: A Realistic View Of Unemployment In This Country
Post by: billt on August 31, 2010, 05:07:49 AM
And Billt, 15 large won't even pay for the damn insulation in the houses!!!!!

http://www.northernappraisalandrealty.com/drakedegenstein.htm

Asking $23,900.00.  "The range, and washer & dryer are included." Offer $15 cash and tell them they can keep them. Bill T.
Title: Re: A Realistic View Of Unemployment In This Country
Post by: crusader rabbit on August 31, 2010, 07:24:44 AM
The problem with living in North Dakota is that you're living in North-freakin'-Dakota.  Dudes, it gets really cold up there.  The infrequent cold snaps that blow through Florida start in North Dakota.  The only reason they don't call it Canada is because the Canadians didn't need another seasonal deep-freeze. 

Remember, if God wanted human beings to live in North Dakota, we'd all have been born with heavy fur.  Sheesh, guys.  Use the noodle for more than a hat rack.

Offered as an insight by Crusader (who tends to start shivering below 70 degrees F)
Title: Re: A Realistic View Of Unemployment In This Country
Post by: fightingquaker13 on August 31, 2010, 07:28:46 AM
The problem with living in North Dakota is that you're living in North-freakin'-Dakota.  Dudes, it gets really cold up there.  The infrequent cold snaps that blow through Florida start in North Dakota.  The only reason they don't call it Canada is because the Canadians didn't need another seasonal deep-freeze. 

Remember, if God wanted human beings to live in North Dakota, we'd all have been born with heavy fur.  Sheesh, guys.  Use the noodle for more than a hat rack.

Offered as an insight by Crusader (who tends to start shivering below 70 degrees F)
Preach on brother! Why are there no homeless people in NoDaK? The work ethic? The plentiful jobs? No, its because they freeze to death by September 15th. ;D
FQ13 who does not want to live anywhere a man can die by just going outside.
Title: Re: A Realistic View Of Unemployment In This Country
Post by: JC5123 on August 31, 2010, 08:36:10 AM
Preach on brother! Why are there no homeless people in NoDaK? The work ethic? The plentiful jobs? No, its because they freeze to death by September 15th. ;D
FQ13 who does not want to live anywhere a man can die by just going outside.

It keeps out the riff raff.  ;D Part of the reason we don't have the out of control insanity that you guys deal with. Gangs, illegals, and liberals. They all like warmer climates. You gotta be tough to make it through the winters. Scream all you want that Wyo isn't N.D. and we don't get the deep settled cold the way they do. But for those naysayers, I invite you up here in February, when the ambient temp is 35 degrees, and the wind is blowing 70 mph for a week straight.

(Yes, we laugh at your hurricanes.  ;) )
Title: Re: A Realistic View Of Unemployment In This Country
Post by: billt on August 31, 2010, 08:44:26 AM
Look at the bright side. You won't have to wait long for your barrel to cool down when you're working up loads in the middle of January. In fact your barrel can be easily Cryo treated by simply leaving it on the back porch overnight!   Bill T.
Title: Re: A Realistic View Of Unemployment In This Country
Post by: JC5123 on August 31, 2010, 09:04:47 AM
Look at the bright side. You won't have to wait long for your barrel to cool down when you're working up loads in the middle of January. In fact your barrel can be easily Cryo treated by simply leaving it on the back porch overnight!   Bill T.

That's no joke. Sight-in in the winter. Wait about 3 min between shots and every on can be logged as cold bore.  ;D