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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: Hazcat on February 11, 2008, 04:07:55 PM
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Yep, I was shootin a reload (not mine) out of my RedHawk and got a squib that stuck one in the barrel.
This is a 250 grain .45 Colt from Montana Gold Bullets. A CMJ (complete metal jacket)
Any way I can get this out with regular home tools kinda stuff?
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If you happen to have a wooden dowle about the same diameter of the barrel you can try to tap it back out. If it is seated rather far up in the barrel it could take a while. The only other method I know of involves a drill and I leave that up to a gun smith. good luck
Mike Mc
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Hazcat,
I had this happen to a .32 ACP with one of my reloads.
I pushed it back out toward the breech with a pencil. It came right out with some pushing. I was told that it is harder to push it out toward the muzzle by a friend. I cannot say from experience if this is true.
BTW I backed it out and shot the rest of the reloads with out incident. But I have not reloaded any .32 ACP since.
There was powder in the case. I know this because it spilled all over when I pulled the case out. Only the primer fired, I have no idea why. I suspect it was the orientation of the powder in the bottom of the case w/o enough at the primer end. The primers were CCI small pistol.
Let us know what works for you.
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Pushing on it will not budge it. (Darn!)
BTW this is a 5.5 inch barrel and the top of the round is 1.25 inches from the crown.
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Go to the hardware store and pickup some copper or brass round stock, go ahead and get about a foot long. 3/8 inch if possible, and drive it out toward the forcing cone. You may need to remove the grips and mount the grip frame in vise with some lead jaws or thick leather. You could also use a little copper solvent to help, just don't leave that solution too long with that much copper to work with. While your at it, get some 1/4 inch stock for smaller calibers.
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big "C" clamp and some brass stock.
If that does not work, its hammer time
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M25, TAB,
OK, I'll get some brass stock (should I try to pad it with anything?) and I like the C clamp idea so I'll try that first (got some big clamps already).
It will be a few days before I get a chance but I'll let y'all know.
Thanks!
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Hazcat, I carry a piece of thick brass rod with me in my Gun cart at CAS matches, it has come in handy many times, You can shoot a little lube behind the bullet and then carefully tap it out the same way it went in. I use a brass hammer as well just in case you miss the rod. Hope this helps and good luck with the removal.
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Hazcat, I carry a piece of thick brass rod with me in my Gun cart at CAS matches, it has come in handy many times, You can shoot a little lube behind the bullet and then carefully tap it out the same way it went in. I use a brass hammer as well just in case you miss the rod. Hope this helps and good luck with the removal.
the lube sounds like a good idea.
If you miss with a brass hammer... you should not be hammering...
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Haz, I'm no expert, but I'm thinkin'...how many rounds did you fire prior? Is there a gunk buildup? Maybe you pour some solvent down there.
Also, if you make the metal cold won't it compress? Freeze the gun for awhile. Cold barrel, solvent, and push with a dowel might do it. But (OBVIOUSLY) no hammering if the gun is cold.
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Majer,
I'll try some lube when I do it. I have gun Butter and Rem Oil.
Jaybeth,
I clean every time I done at the range and this was the 3rd shot of the day.
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My gunsmith told me the story of someone bringing in a revolver that had SIX bullets stuck in the barrel. Seems the poor fellow fired the whole cylinder before he realized what was happening. The gunsmith just handed the revolver back to him.
I know this doesn't help, but maybe you feel a bit better.
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My buddy was shooting an old military rife and when he went to eject the shell, the bottom part of the case came off. He tried everything and eventially took it to a gunsmith who has been in the trade for 30+ yrs and he could not get it out. He eventially had to replace the barrel. I guess he tried every possible trick in the book and finally gave up on it. Good luck
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Yeah, as others have mentioned...sometimes you can knock it straight back with a tool. Hope it works for ya.
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Well, now, I would Imagine that the problem stems from that gorgeous hair that Squibby has, so I would recommend a really good mousse, top of the line of course, that should help ease her out of that barrel. Unless of course her hair got caught on something. In that case, . . . .
Oh, wait, you said squib round! That's different. Never mind, then.
8)
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Well, now, I would Imagine that the problem stems from that gorgeous hair that Squibby has, so I would recommend a really good mousse, top of the line of course, that should help ease her out of that barrel. Unless of course her hair got caught on something. In that case, . . . .
Oh, wait, you said squib round! That's different. Never mind, then.
8)
Of course if it WAS the delicious Squib I would probably use something else to 'push' her with.
(did I actually say that out loud! :o )
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Majer,
I'll try some lube when I do it. I have gun Butter and Rem Oil.
Jaybeth,
I clean every time I done at the range and this was the 3rd shot of the day.
So much for that...I was thinking maybe you had been there for a couple of hours. That's just plain no good. Could you tell if it was a low charge? If not maybe the bullet is oversized? Stranger things have happened.
The drill mentioned earlier comes to mind. Yes, it's a gunsmith job, unless you can detach the barrel. Then you could drill from the flat end of the bullet and maybe reduce it enough to force it back out.
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You need to drive that projectile 4.25" back or 1.25" forward, you don't have good access from the forcing cone. Backwards is the way. I've done this many times, as a range officer, I carry along with the normal, extra ear protection and shooting glasses, a 1/4" copper rod and a 8oz hammer, to drive squibs out, successful 100% so far, when extra force is needed, we put the rod in the muzzle and bang the rod against the wooden table. The copper rod will not hurt the barrel, as you are shooting a .45 bullet oversizing is not a big issue as you can only get bigger from there one size, .50, a .50 would not go into your cylinder. Don't be afraid to smack the rod hard and often, it will come out, I know you've been around but for lawyers sake, please remove the cylinder or have it open. If you cannot find a rod of proper diameter, you can use an empty cartridge case that will easily fit through the bore as a slave on the end of the rod to fill up the space and have the most surface area, rim against the bullet of course. Using too small a rod, you can poke a hole, through the bullet. The flat surface of a cartridge rim will help.. Welcome to gunsmithying.
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I had a reload do that in my 4inch 357mag,tapped it backwards with a peice of cleaning rod,no damage to gun or rod. no need to get fancy, if it fit UP that far it will fit back just fine.
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Stick the barrel up Hillary's a$$ and let the smoke blow the bullet out!!!
Just a suggestion. Mac.
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Stick the barrel up Hillary's a$$ and let the smoke blow the bullet out!!!
Just a suggestion. Mac.
ROTFLMBO !! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Stick the barrel up Hillary's a$$ and let the smoke blow the bullet out!!!
Just a suggestion. Mac.
Might work but I dread the clean up. Does Hoppes make a BS remover?
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Thought I'd let y'all know how this turned out.
I tried the push it out (no go) and the C-clamp might have worked if I had a tougher one (mine bent!) so....
I took it to the range last Friday and asked one of the Cowboy shooters I know (actually he is the Range President) and we went to one of the shops on the property and had to WAIL on that thing to get it out.
Had a smith check it and all is well but WOW did we have to smack it with a hammer to get it out.
THANKS for all the help guys!
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Thought I'd let y'all know how this turned out.
I tried the push it out (no go) and the C-clamp might have worked if I had a tougher one (mine bent!) so....
I took it to the range last Friday and asked one of the Cowboy shooters I know (actually he is the Range President) and we went to one of the shops on the property and had WAIL on that thing to get it out.
Had a smith check it and all is well but WOW did we have to smack it with a hammer to get it out.
THANKS for all the help guys!
Oops!...forgot to mention that you needed to try the BFH!
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Oops!...forgot to mention that you needed to try the BFH!
I think it was actually a BBMFH. ;) (5 pound machinists sledge!)
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Haz, I'm no expert, but I'm thinkin'...how many rounds did you fire prior? Is there a gunk buildup? Maybe you pour some solvent down there.
Also, if you make the metal cold won't it compress? Freeze the gun for awhile. Cold barrel, solvent, and push with a dowel might do it. But (OBVIOUSLY) no hammering if the gun is cold.
Haz unfortunatly I do have alittle experiance with this bad situation and geetting the gun cold as frozen hell does help with some penitating oil its a PITA and slow prosses but it will come out. Tap,tap taptap tap tap@#$%tap tap tap %^& tap tap tap
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Haz unfortunatly I do have alittle experiance with this bad situation and geetting the gun cold as frozen hell does help with some penitating oil its a PITA and slow prosses but it will come out. Tap,tap taptap tap tap@#$%tap tap tap %^& tap tap tap
I guess that means I'm a natural born "Little Engineer that can"!
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Jaybeth,
Check out this post to you I put up a day or two ago.
http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=19.390