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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: Bic on September 04, 2010, 06:26:26 PM

Title: Feds entrap seller at gun show using illegal alien.
Post by: Bic on September 04, 2010, 06:26:26 PM
 Forgive me if this is old news but I just read it: >:(

http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php?view=38088
Title: Re: Feds entrap seller at gun show using illegal alien.
Post by: twyacht on September 04, 2010, 07:27:43 PM
I haven't seen this before, but had read that gun sellers would be "put to the test" and in essence, "set up"....

However, from the article:

   1. Why is the illegal alien who purchased the gun, Leonel Huerta Sr., still living in Austin?
   2. Why does he still have a Texas Driver’s license?
   3. Why is ATF using illegal aliens to set up and convict American citizens?
   4. What has he been promised for his cooperation?
   5. Why has he not been prosecuted? He committed three distinct crimes: he purchased a firearm knowing he was an illegal alien, he possessed the firearm, and he transferred the handgun to another illegal alien (Hippolito Aviles, who was convicted and given time served on June 30, 2010).
   6. Why has Huerta Sr. not been deported?

Perhaps I'm missing something, but I have to show electric bills, SS cards, birth certificates, and/ or tax returns, to renew MY Drivers License,...and I'm a blonde haired white boy!

How does an illegal get a D.L. ???? >:( I know it happens but it sure does seem tough for a "white boy" like me to get one.




Title: Re: Feds entrap seller at gun show using illegal alien.
Post by: Hazcat on September 04, 2010, 07:51:33 PM
I'm wondering how anybody could be prosecuted.  He did due diligence by asking for a dl.  What else could he do?
Title: Re: Feds entrap seller at gun show using illegal alien.
Post by: fightingquaker13 on September 04, 2010, 08:08:59 PM
I actually had to walk away from the computer for a minute. As most of you know, I can get a little snarky at times. Generally its all in good fun. Rarely do I get seriously angry. Well, this one of those times. So I'm hoping that Rastus and Path will forgive me if I quote the Gunny in full, 3rd comandment be hanged. :-\
Quoth the Gunny:
"JESUS CHRIST! YOU HAVE GOT TO BE SHTTING ME PYLE!!!!!!!!".
Let me get this straight. He was busted for not assuming a latino was an illegal alien and refusing to sell him a gun, which a state issued ID said the guy was entitled to? This is a sting? It could just as easily have gone the other way. The headline? "Racist gun dealer won't sell to latinos"! >:( >:( >:( >:(
There are not words in English or Spanish to describe how pissed I am at this. Screw these people, and I only wish I was on that jury so I could have yawned and looked at my watch during the prosecution's closing statement! >:(
FQ13 Sorry, rant over :-[
Title: Re: Feds entrap seller at gun show using illegal alien.
Post by: Hazcat on September 04, 2010, 09:07:59 PM
Honestly the truly terrifying part of this is that people on a jury convicted!  How ignorant of the law and logic were they?
Title: Re: Feds entrap seller at gun show using illegal alien.
Post by: Timothy on September 04, 2010, 09:17:48 PM
Honestly the truly terrifying part of this is that people on a jury convicted!  How ignorant of the law and logic were they?

Most people don't know the law, a majority have no fuggin clue....

as to logic, even worse.
Title: Re: Feds entrap seller at gun show using illegal alien.
Post by: m25operator on September 04, 2010, 09:21:52 PM
It does not sound like he had a jury trial, just the judgement.  It is not illegal to sell guns from individual to individual in TX, even if you have a table at a gunshow, even if you don't ask for ID, this is a sham, I hope the NRA or TSRA step in, and get a new trial, federal or Texas law he did not break. I'm Pissed
Title: Re: Feds entrap seller at gun show using illegal alien.
Post by: tt11758 on September 05, 2010, 10:32:31 AM
Let me get this straight.  The federal government sues Arizona to prevent them from verifying immigration status, but prosecutes a gun dealer because he doesn't do what they say Arizona can't do?


WTF?
Title: Re: Feds entrap seller at gun show using illegal alien.
Post by: TAB on September 05, 2010, 01:52:48 PM
Something tells me there is alot more to this story then what was told in the link.
Title: Re: Feds entrap seller at gun show using illegal alien.
Post by: MikeBjerum on September 06, 2010, 07:05:58 PM
Rope!!!
Title: Re: Feds entrap seller at gun show using illegal alien.
Post by: jp1 on September 06, 2010, 09:02:28 PM
The thing everyone has to understand is that the current Justice department is not about justice, it’s about what it perceives to be social justice and a political perspective. Equal justice under the law is not what they are about, it is using the justice system to impose the justice that they perceive to be correct and achieve their global political goals, sort of like a God complex.  Just like the Arizona immigration law, they oppose it even though it is almost the same as current federal law. They oppose it because they have chosen not to enforce the federal law because it suits their political purpose.

Even though this is totally outrageous to me and most people, it is something we all need to be aware of. Anything about our Bill of Rights will be attacked if given the chance, just look at the memo they put out to local police to watch out for conservatives being domestic terrorists.
Title: Re: Feds entrap seller at gun show using illegal alien.
Post by: Pathfinder on September 07, 2010, 06:15:54 AM
The thing everyone has to understand is that the current Justice department is not about justice, it’s about what it perceives to be social justice and a political perspective. Equal justice under the law is not what they are about, it is using the justice system to impose the justice that they perceive to be correct and achieve their global political goals, sort of like a God complex.  Just like the Arizona immigration law, they oppose it even though it is almost the same as current federal law. They oppose it because they have chosen not to enforce the federal law because it suits their political purpose.

Even though this is totally outrageous to me and most people, it is something we all need to be aware of. Anything about our Bill of Rights will be attacked if given the chance, just look at the memo they put out to local police to watch out for conservatives being domestic terrorists.


Damn good post, jp1, damn good.
Title: Re: Feds entrap seller at gun show using illegal alien.
Post by: Bic on September 07, 2010, 07:02:24 AM
Seconded! - good job jp1.