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Member Section => Handguns => Topic started by: WatchManUSA on September 23, 2010, 10:14:54 PM
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I haven't had much time to be on the site so I'm not sure if this subject has been discussed. I had a customer who purchased a S&W Bodyguard pistol from the shop a week ago. He came in the shop and I asked him how he likes it so far. He said he was shooting it last weekend at an outdoor range and he was into his second box of ammo when he fired it and the slide and barrel flew forward off the gun.
The take down pin works itself loose while shooting and it disengaged (fell off) resulting in the the slide and barrel to eject forward on a shot. We sent his back to S&W.
There are a bunch of You Tube videos - take a look.
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WOW! Please keep us informed as to what you hear from S&W.
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Glad it doesn't come flying backwards.
JMHO
Richard
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I was talking to a shop owner a couple of weeks ago about one and he said that out of the 5 he had sold, 3 had to be sent back for broken triggers. This was all around 50 - 60 rounds going through the guns. I decided to pass and picked up a Bond Arms Snake Slayer instead.
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Looks like my Taurus TCP was the correct buy after all.
http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=13857.0
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wow, a self disassembler pistol, thats special. ;D
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Shhh...if S&W finds out, they'll charge extra...
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Co-worker of mine got on the list to get one, picked it up last week, has not shot it yet. Gave him the heads up, and a little range time.
Pending,....
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UPDATE:
Smith & Wesson is sending my customer a new Bodyguard 380 to replace the one with the barrel and slide ejection feature.
We got a new batch of them in the shop and one noticeable thing Smith did was change the frame mold to have a raised "O" ring around the laser activation button. The first models did not have this and the lasers could turn on while in a pocket or holster draining the battery.
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My customer gave me an update on the replacement Bodyguard he got from Smith. The replacement has light primer strikes. He tried three different ammo manufacturers and the problem happened with all three. It goes bang only about 50% of the time. He is not happy with Smith right now.
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Wonder why?
Richard
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More to the point, I wonder why they didn't catch this? It seems like something that would show up on computer models before they built the first one and would certainly be apparent in test firings. This just seems weird.
FQ13
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Just got to this thread, and the first post brought to mind that this is the perfect law enforcement gun - There was a period around here where law enforcement would throw things rather than shoot unless they were actually being shot at. This gun did the throwing for them ;D
Sounds like S&W fell into the modern production trap of relying too heavily on computer modeling and releasing stuff too quick. Hopefully they can get this corrected, but regardless of what they do the Bodyguard name is damaged goods forever!
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Of the dozen or so Bodyguard pistols we have sold this is the only one I have seen come back with a problem. We also had one problem with a Bodyguard revolver. The firing pin would back-off the primer just a bit when stuck. Instead of the primer having an innie strike mark it had an outie. As a result the cylinder froze. Again, just one so far.
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Of the dozen or so Bodyguard pistols we have sold this is the only one I have seen come back with a problem. We also had one problem with a Bodyguard revolver. The firing pin would back-off the primer just a bit when stuck. Instead of the primer having an innie strike mark it had an outie. As a result the cylinder froze. Again, just one so far.
That is very bad news for Smith. I am somewhat surprised by the pistol problem. Still, up until the M@P their pistols have never lit the world on fire. But a revolver? Since the demise of Colt, Smith has been the caddy of revolvers. You'd think they wouldn't introduce a new one until it was tested to death and then some. If they devalue their rep in this area even a little they'll have a hell of time convincing folks why they shouldn't save $200 and buy a Taurus or Ruger instead.
FQ13
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2 bum guns ( with differant defects ) from one shop totals how many nation wide ?
I agree this will be a kick in the nuts for S&W.
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Go with the volume of units sold, vs, the units with a problem. Yes hard earned money for a defensive pistol "should" have zero issues, but sh** happens in new designs, and it's not just S&W. I know folks that have sent back Kahr's, Sig's and even a "G" gun.
2 bum guns ( with differant defects ) from one shop totals how many nation wide ?
I agree this will be a kick in the nuts for S&W.
Based on sales, I'm guessing their still putting the numbers behind the decimal point. Until there is a recall, like another "top shelf" pistol maker is issued, this is still pending. The numbers aren't there "yet", and hopefully won't be.
S&W at least is wearing a cup.. :-\
We'll see.... My co-worker hasn't shot his yet. I wanted to get a Kel-tec, Walther PPK/S, S&W Bodyguard, match up. My KT, is still my daily carry companion.
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Go with the volume of units sold, vs, the units with a problem. Yes hard earned money for a defensive pistol "should" have zero issues, but sh** happens in new designs, and it's not just S&W. I know folks that have sent back Kahr's, Sig's and even a "G" gun.
Based on sales, I'm guessing their still putting the numbers behind the decimal point. Until there is a recall, like another "top shelf" pistol maker is issued, this is still pending. The numbers aren't there "yet", and hopefully won't be.
S&W at least is wearing a cup.. :-\
We'll see.... My co-worker hasn't shot his yet. I wanted to get a Kel-tec, Walther PPK/S, S&W Bodyguard, match up. My KT, is still my daily carry companion.
True, I'm curious to hear if other Dealers like "Moreguns", GUNS - R - US, etc have similar experiences.