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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: TAB on October 12, 2010, 04:41:11 PM
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I was supose to show up on 10/8/10
*bangs head against the wall.
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What's the date on the post mark?
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No post mark its all presorted 1st class mail. there is a bar code on it, but I can't read that.
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Just call them and tell them you missed your mail a few days when you were touring out of state as guest speaker for the Klan. LAST time you'll hear from them. ;)
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My mail is running slow too. I got a letter about GM stock IPO and if I want to buy stock the return letter is supposed to be postmarked no later than today. I just threw it away anyway. I have better places to invest a grand or so.
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Throw it in the trash. Unless you're really into jury duty.
You haven't been served with a summons if it came to a mailbox.
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"summons" has to be hand to hand if I remember correctly, or does it vary by state ?
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"summons" has to be hand to hand if I remember correctly, or does it vary by state ?
Doesn't really matter. If you don't show they can send you the fine. If you want to argue it (to a VERY unsympathetic audience), well, you've already wasted a day at the courthouse. ;)
FQ13
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"summons" has to be hand to hand if I remember correctly, or does it vary by state ?
yes and no. They can still issue a bench warrent.
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Throw it in the trash. Unless you're really into jury duty. You haven't been served with a summons if it came to a mailbox.
In most, if not all jurisdictions, if it was sent first class US Mail, it is a presumption in law that it was delivered. Throwing it in the trash can be a very bad idea. Call the jury clerk and explain the circumstances and never get your legal advice on forums. Honesty is the best policy.
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In most, if not all jurisdictions, if it was sent first class US Mail, it is a presumption in law that it was delivered. Throwing it in the trash can be a very bad idea. Call the jury clerk and explain the circumstances and never get your legal advice on forums. Honesty is the best policy.
Wise words. ;D
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In most, if not all jurisdictions, if it was sent first class US Mail, it is a presumption in law that it was delivered. Throwing it in the trash can be a very bad idea. Call the jury clerk and explain the circumstances and never get your legal advice on forums. Honesty is the best policy.
I have to argue that, honesty is all well and good, but I think the bit about not trusting your freedom to internet gossip is a much better policy.
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I have to argue that, honesty is all well and good, but I think the bit about not trusting your freedom to internet gossip is a much better policy.
I can agree with that, but I'll voice my opinion anyway:
Pick up the phone, and tell them you just received the letter. Be open and up front ... unless you have been ignoring your mail, and it is really your own fault.
To all of you that feel missing this is a good thing, or that it is a responsibility to be ignored or avoided - Feel free to quit voting in elections, and quit whining about our elected officials and the actions they take!
The price of being a citizen in a free nation is participation in the process. If you can't man up and do that, there are borders on all edges.
I am going to do some digging to find the story that I wrote down. It is about a person that saw "them" coming for one group after another, but since it didn't affect him. One day "they" came for him, and there was no one to protect him. Wouldn't it be nice to have a jury some day if you need it? I will post the story when I find it.
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Its from Martin Niemoller. He was a Lutheran pastor. He initially supported Hitler as an anti-communist, than opposed him when he saw the rest of the agenda, and spent the war in Dachau.
FQ13
The quote is as follows:
They came first for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up.
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FQ beat me to it.
It's one of the few poems I ever bothered to memorize.
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Its from Martin Niemoller. He was a Lutheran pastor. He initially supported Hitler as an anti-communist, than opposed him when he saw the rest of the agenda, and spent the war in Dachau.
FQ13
The quote is as follows:
They came first for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up.
Never thought I say this, but Thank You FQ!
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Just got off the phone with the clerk.
Seems lots of people got the same notice, its a misprint, she said they will be sending out new notices soon.
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In most, if not all jurisdictions, if it was sent first class US Mail, it is a presumption in law that it was delivered.
Do you have a source for this?
'Cause in every municipality I've lived in it's not even close to correct.
The US Mail is efficient but, run by humans, not infallible.
If it were, I would have never received my neighbor's (next door and 2 doors over on another street) Visa bill and they would not have gotten my AMEX bill. Twice.
In this current jurisdiction, photo tickets, jury summons, etc., are mailed, then if there is no response they must send out a process server or other officer of the court to HAND DELIVER to someone of responsible age at that address.
The only way to get around the "hand to hand" is if the server goes back to court and wants an "alternate service" order because of someone dodging the process server. Then they can hang it on the door or a gate and call it good.