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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: PegLeg45 on November 16, 2010, 03:16:30 PM
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Imagine that, he's from Chicago. ::)
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/16/us/16brfs-OBAMAPICKSAD_BRF.html?_r=4
Obama Picks a Director For the A.T.F.
Nearly two years into his term, President Obama on Monday finally chose a director for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. Mr. Obama will submit the name of Andrew Taver, the special agent in charge of the bureau’s Chicago field division, to the Senate for consideration, the White House said. He may face a confirmation fight; after Congress changed the position to make it one requiring Senate confirmation, President George W. Bush’s nominee was blocked by senators who used it to criticize the enforcement of gun laws against firearms dealers.
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If they are taking a guy "off the street" and putting him in charge I will reserve judgment.
I am however concerned that Obummer approves of him and that he is from the Chicago office.
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If they are taking a guy "off the street" and putting him in charge I will reserve judgment.
I am however concerned that Obummer approves of him and that he is from the Chicago office.
+1
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BATF + anything Chicago = BAD!
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BATF + anything Chicago = BAD!
That's my gut reaction as well .
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Anybody have an history on this guy?
BTW, it is TRAVER. NY times can't even spell names correctly anymore.
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Anybody have an history on this guy?
BTW, it is TRAVER. NY times can't even spell names correctly anymore.
You beat me to it...didn't notice it myself until I read a blurb on an NRA-ILA page. ;D
http://www.nraila.org/News/Read/InTheNews.aspx?ID=14478
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initial answer is the gut was right >:( BAD NEWS
http://onlygunsandmoney.blogspot.com/2010/11/who-is-andrew-traver.html
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Time to call and write our senators.
Since they can't use race as an issue, anyone want to bet how long it takes for the 'administration' to cry that anti-Traver folks are 'bashing the poor guy who had cancer'. I'm like one guy in the article, I'm very glad the guy beat cancer (a dreadful disease)....but I still don't think we need him running BHO's ATF.
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Di we really expect an avowed anti-2A president (small case p is on purpose in this case) to nominate a PRO-Gun person to ANY job, let alone head of the ATF? (On a side note, I STILL think that sounds like the name for a convenience store)
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Between Brady, the Joyce Foundation, and an Ill. native.....
Conclusion
Traver has been the rumored candidate for the Director of ATF from the moment that Obama was elected and now is the nominee in fact. He has been in bed with the anti-gun forces including the Joyce Foundation since the moment he became the Special Agent in Charge of the Chicago Field Division. As seen by the comments above, he is not widely respected by the ATF field who consider him a nice enough guy but marginal when he was in the field and even more marginal as a manager.
Traver makes a nice personal interest story and I'm glad his cancer is in remission. That said, I don't want someone like him in charge of ATF and I sincerely doubt he would clean out the culture of corruption that seems to exist in ATF's management. It is time for the Senate to just say no.
Thanks for the link r w ....
BHO's not done with guns just yet, Schumer, Feinstien, Boxer, and the others, are just waiting for the Executive Orders to flow, bypassing the Congress..
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Pre-November 2008: We don't want your guns, we are not after your guns, we will leave your guns alone
Post November 2008: BHO to Clinton and Pelosi - Settle down, it isn't time yet!
Post Election November 2010: Nominate Anti-Gun candidate to BATF post
Who didn't see this one coming?
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Between AG Eric Holder, and this new BATFE Dir.........Take advantage of the easing in ammo prices folks, follow Col. Jeff Coopers advice, and keep your stocks up, including primers, and .22's.
"Remember that Jefferson told us that the Second Amendment would not be needed until they tried to abolish it. There are people who have that in mind right now. The personal ownership and usage of firearms is not a common aspect of today's culture worldwide. It is up to Americans - those who know what it means to be an American - to uphold the light of liberty in the face of those both here and elsewhere who would extinguish it. We see the hysterics who feel that the abolition of firearms would bring about major changes in the human psyche, and that crime would disappear. We cannot reason with these people because they are impervious to reason, but we can expose them to ridicule and frustrate their political clout. That is a job not just for the National Rifle Association, but for everyone. If you want to make a resolution for the coming century, resolve to do something in defense of liberty every day, and by liberty, of course, we mean true liberty - the right to keep and bear arms. Without that liberty all other liberties are meaningless."
Col. Jeff Cooper
"I hear that small arms ammunition in South Africa has practically disappeared from the store shelves. Either people are wisely stocking up, or some arm of the government has decided to cut off the supply. In that regard, I advise you to keep your own stocks in good shape. Our enemies may not be able to abrogate the constitution just yet, but there are economic and political means by which they may dry up our ammunition supply."
Jeff Cooper
"I have long preached that one should never be caught short in his personal armament, either in regard to the weapons or the ammunition. Keep up your supply, and do not neglect the 22 rimfire, which may well turn into the "ballistic wampum" I have spoken of the past. If you have any loading equipment, stock primers, which may constitute the weakest link in the chain."
Jeff Cooper
Amen Colonel.