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Title: Arming Your Automobile ??
Post by: billt on December 01, 2010, 01:16:15 PM
Do you guys simply rely on your carry piece? Or do you outfit them separately? I don't always carry and neither does Mel. We keep weapons in the car, knives, clubs, and sometimes guns. Mel doesn't work and I don't have issues with anyone breaking into my car or truck at work. The possibilities are endless. AK-47's under the seat. Handguns dedicated to certain vehicles.

Going to the store she carries. I'm one of those "sometimes guys". I should carry all of the time, and so should she. We're trying to work that out, but quite honestly I'm not sure on what to do and neither is she. You hate to go unprotected for fear of what might happen. But at the same time being around weapons you can retrieve in an instant is tough, if not a total PITA. What do you guys do? It only takes once and a bad situation can screw up your life.   Bill T.
Title: Re: Arming Your Automobile ??
Post by: kmitch200 on December 01, 2010, 01:38:00 PM
Do you guys simply rely on your carry piece? Or do you outfit them separately?

Most of the time I rely on the carry gun.
Someitmes on longer (out to the desert) runs I wlll put a larger handgun in the vehicle besides what I'm going to shoot anyway. On trips I like to have a 'road warrior' gun, usually a short 12g pump along with the other handguns.

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We keep weapons in the car, knives, clubs, and sometimes guns. <snip> Handguns dedicated to certain vehicles.

I can't dedicate a handgun to the vehicle because I can't park my truck inside this short tract home garage. I keep a knife in the vehicle, but I've had 2 ASP batons stolen and never used either one for its intended purpose.

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Going to the store she carries. I'm one of those "sometimes guys".

I have changed from an 'always carry' to a 'sometimes guy' myself. I'm currently in always mode but that can change with the breezes.
My Glock 27 is easy enough to carry but the wifes LCP is REALLY easy to carry when you don't feel like hauling around a gun.
I think we might need another one.  

On edit: one thing I ALWAYS have is a Benchmade automatic in my pocket. 
Title: Re: Arming Your Automobile ??
Post by: jaybet on December 01, 2010, 01:43:51 PM
NJ- can't carry. There's a 16" collapsible baton in the door compartment in both our cars.
Title: Re: Arming Your Automobile ??
Post by: pioneer on December 01, 2010, 02:40:06 PM
Storing weapons, especially firearms in an automobile is not a good idea.  They are up for grabs for any drugged up car prowler who happens to be working the area where it is parked.  The drugged up car prowler then becomes an armed drugged up car prowler.   Over the span of my police career I have taken countless reports of cars broken into where guns were taken.  Once on the streets, they become a threat to us all.  Although not the primary purpose for breaking in, it becomes a target of opportunity.   
(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb294/pioneer461/police.png)
Title: Re: Arming Your Automobile ??
Post by: shooter32 on December 01, 2010, 02:55:48 PM
Normal day, its always my carry gun and my Gerber blade in my pocket... Everyday all day!!

Depending on the road trip, I add to the automobile. .357 mag... .223 Bushmaster and 12ga are the three that I use.


+1 on not leaving guns in cars!
Title: Re: Arming Your Automobile ??
Post by: Ichiban on December 01, 2010, 02:57:35 PM
There are very few times that I don't have my EDC with me but sometimes it has to be left behind, so I keep my FNP-9 in the glove box.  I am very religious about unlocking the glove box when I get in the car and re-locking it when I get out.  My car is always locked - even in the garage.  Most all car break-ins I've seen have been "smash 'n grabs" so I have nothing in sight to tempt them - no phones, ipods, cds, backpacks, etc. - nothing.   A friend has had her car broken into three times but it looks like she live out of her car so I can understand how someone would think there was something worth stealing in it.

My biggest problem is remembering to take it out when I'm going someplace (like a local military base) where it would be frowned upon.  On a recent road trip to Illinois I was about a block from the house when I remembered it and turned around to put it in the safe.  On the same trip, I was about half way through Illinois when I remembered that I had a 1911 on my hip.  That could have extended my stay way longer than planned.   :(   I hate strongly dislike that state.
Title: Re: Arming Your Automobile ??
Post by: billt on December 01, 2010, 03:01:13 PM
We don't "store" them in our vehicles. But I'm not against leaving them in them in the car in the garage, providing it isn't Summer and 120 degrees inside the car and garage either. Those kind of temps play hell on ammo and Polymer guns. We have security guards at work, and no one can get to employee vehicles. Bill T.
Title: Re: Arming Your Automobile ??
Post by: crusader rabbit on December 01, 2010, 03:02:43 PM
Storing weapons, especially firearms in an automobile is not a good idea.  They are up for grabs for any drugged up car prowler who happens to be working the area where it is parked.  The drugged up car prowler then becomes an armed drugged up car prowler.   Over the span of my police career I have taken countless reports of cars broken into where guns were taken.  Once on the streets, they become a threat to us all.  Although not the primary purpose for breaking in, it becomes a target of opportunity.   
(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb294/pioneer461/police.png)

Solid agreement from this Rabbit about guns in cars.  That said, I'm heading out west over the Christmas holiday and I will carry my Glock 27 concealed on my belt until I get to AZ, then I will substitute one of my .357 mag 6-shooters, and the G27 will go in a locked box.  I will also have my .357 mag carbine, and many rounds of ammo.  They will have to accompany me in the car, but will linger with me in any motel room I happen to find along the way.  Of course, the chances of my car being stolen with me in it are decidedly remote.  Once I get to AZ, the G27 stays locked in my parents' house while I head west because California thinks it's an assault weapon.  I won't carry concealed in CA, but I will have my .357 mag nearby.  Still illegal, but less likelihood of stimulating an arrest from over-zealous law enforcement.
Title: Re: Arming Your Automobile ??
Post by: Bidah on December 01, 2010, 03:27:59 PM
I don't believe that you should arm your automobile, that should be on you.  There are some good in vehicle options for holsters, so that may be something to look at, but for me that would mean removing it from my side as I entered the vehicle.  Depending on a particular trip we may choose to upgrade what is carried in the vehicle, and that would be in a case in the back.

-Bidah
Title: Re: Arming Your Automobile ??
Post by: twyacht on December 01, 2010, 05:19:40 PM
Pocket pistol, or my more comfortable IWB snubbie, or other compacts, for trips to the local places.

Never left in the car overnight . However, I drive a work van with a drilled and tapped metal lock box in between the seats. It is like an ammo can with a stouter lid and key lock. I keep a pistol in there, unlock it when driving, lock it on service calls, van also has an alarm.

Generally, the shipyards, and marinas have gated security, it's the surrounding ghettos and industrial parks, that I drive through when I unlock the box, and keep it close.

In Riviera Beach, I even tuck it under my work shirt to get parts, re-fuel, etc,... It's a bad neighborhood.



Title: Re: Arming Your Automobile ??
Post by: cookie62 on December 01, 2010, 05:27:23 PM
I have a gunvault bolted under the rear seat of my truck. I carry but put it inthere when i get to work. Other wise I don't think you should leave a gun in the vehicle all the time. I do keep a knife and baton in the door compartment.
Title: Re: Arming Your Automobile ??
Post by: twyacht on December 01, 2010, 05:43:57 PM
+1 cookie, I keep an 15" piece of 575MCM Industrial 9 strand cable right next to me.  It's got the diameter of a Silver Dollar and I call it my "Mr. BeGood." I can barely bend it.

After a time or two upside a BG's head, or anyother part of the body, that Mr.,,,will be good...,,,,,and quite done. Plus, as an electrician, having a stout piece of cable in my van is just a "part of the job".... ::)
Title: Re: Arming Your Automobile ??
Post by: TAB on December 01, 2010, 06:28:36 PM
See I just keep a 3' prybar under my seat.   Anyone thats willing to come thru that to get me, must want me really bad.
Title: Re: Arming Your Automobile ??
Post by: fightingquaker13 on December 02, 2010, 12:07:35 AM
I don't carry as much as I'd want to. Too often these days I wind up at the library, courthouse or post office where even leaving the gun in the car is a felony and I'm not going to go there. I carry my Delica always (you can check it at the courthouse). Otherwise, I prefer to be armed. I'd like to get a can of pepper spray for the truck, but temperatures down here prevent that. Sad to say, I've got enough crap behind the seats of my truck to make me feel ok stashing my gun if I'm running in someplace I can't carry (I generally stuff it underneath Hoffa's body :-[ ;D). No way in hell will anyone find it in a quick smash and grab.
FQ13
Title: Re: Arming Your Automobile ??
Post by: tombogan03884 on December 02, 2010, 01:40:57 AM
Most of the time except at work I have my 1911, once you get used to it and realize you have to dress around the gun you will only notice when it isn't there,If  I can carry a Govt model 1911 on my scrawny 148 pound frame in our 90 degrees and 90% humidity, no one else has a valid excuse for not carrying where legal.  If I have my pants on I have my P-32, always in the same pocket. moving your SD weapon around to different pockets and carry methods and only carrying "sometimes" pretty much assures that when you NEED it, if you even have it with, you or Mel will die before you remember where the hell you left or stuck it.
If it is to do you any good it has to be as much of a habit as swallowing after chewing, or wiping after a dump.
Title: Re: Arming Your Automobile ??
Post by: TAB on December 02, 2010, 01:59:44 AM
I find commander lenght guns to be much more confy to carry if you have to site alot( IE drive)   
Title: Re: Arming Your Automobile ??
Post by: tombogan03884 on December 02, 2010, 02:11:20 AM
I find commander lenght guns to be much more confy to carry if you have to site alot( IE drive)   

After a while your ass kind of molds around it  ;D
Title: Re: Arming Your Automobile ??
Post by: TAB on December 02, 2010, 02:24:50 AM
I'm more of a twig then you are...

I'm 5'11" and 130 lbs...  I'm all bone.
Title: Re: Arming Your Automobile ??
Post by: JC5123 on December 02, 2010, 08:43:02 AM
I'm more of a twig then you are...

I'm 5'11" and 130 lbs...  I'm all bone.

Holy Crap Tab!!! Doesn't your wife ever feed you!??!?!?

At 5-11 / 165 you make me feel like a pig and I can see ribs if I bend right!
Title: Re: Arming Your Automobile ??
Post by: TAB on December 02, 2010, 12:31:53 PM
I've actually lost wieght since HS...

how many people can say that?  I eat like a pig too.
Title: Re: Arming Your Automobile ??
Post by: JC5123 on December 02, 2010, 12:54:28 PM
I've actually lost wieght since HS...

how many people can say that?  I eat like a pig too.

You're not drinking enough beer!   ;D
Title: Re: Arming Your Automobile ??
Post by: TAB on December 02, 2010, 01:01:51 PM
I don't drink beer. 
Title: Re: Arming Your Automobile ??
Post by: JC5123 on December 02, 2010, 01:31:49 PM
I don't drink beer. 

HERITIC!   :o
Title: Re: Arming Your Automobile ??
Post by: TAB on December 02, 2010, 01:36:38 PM
Long story short, when I was a kid, I was forced to drink a case of malt liq... I thru up ALOT.  anything that smells simlar brings that same reaction.  Some might say that was harsh, I say it was effective.

I just drink the hard stuff   ;D
Title: Re: Arming Your Automobile ??
Post by: billt on December 02, 2010, 05:25:29 PM
Metabolism changes. It just takes a bit longer in some of us. When it does the numbers on the scale always go up!  ;D   Bill T.
Title: Re: Arming Your Automobile ??
Post by: tt11758 on December 02, 2010, 05:48:32 PM
Most of the time except at work I have my 1911, once you get used to it and realize you have to dress around the gun you will only notice when it isn't there,If  I can carry a Govt model 1911 on my scrawny 148 pound frame in our 90 degrees and 90% humidity, no one else has a valid excuse for not carrying where legal.  If I have my pants on I have my P-32, always in the same pocket. moving your SD weapon around to different pockets and carry methods and only carrying "sometimes" pretty much assures that when you NEED it, if you even have it with, you or Mel will die before you remember where the hell you left or stuck it.
If it is to do you any good it has to be as much of a habit as swallowing after chewing, or wiping after a dump.

Absolutely.  I carry a Govt Model 1911 daily, as well.  Although, with my rotunditude it's easier to conceal.  And TAB, while a Commander length might be more comfortable, to quote a wise, one-legged Georgia philosopher, "It ain't supposed to be comfortABLE, it's supposed to be comfortING."  

Goes back to the age old question:  What's the best gun for self defense?  The one you'll carry EVERY day!
Title: Re: Arming Your Automobile ??
Post by: CJS3 on December 02, 2010, 05:54:42 PM
Carry weapon for short trips, folding AK for road trips.