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Title: Grog and now Bumbo
Post by: wtr100 on December 10, 2010, 10:39:52 AM
being a bit of a sailor man hisself my new boss gave me a bottle of Pussers Rum for Christmas and shared with me a recipie for Grog

2 oz Dark Rum
2 oz Soda Water
1/2 oz lime juice
1 t sugar

serve over ice

That Pussers Rum is good stuff - supposed to be the exact same stuff issued by the Royal Navy until it was done away with in the 70's

Title: Re: Grog
Post by: tombogan03884 on December 10, 2010, 12:35:06 PM
I remember reading somewhere that the RN used plain "fresh" water so the sailors had to drink it immediately, rather than saving up their "tot's" for a drunk. Another benefit was that the Captian could be sure the men were getting their vitamin C to prevent scurvy.
This was also the origin of the term "Limey" in reference to the English.
Another bit of English drinking trivia, The idea of the "Sundowner", What we refer to as Gin and Tonic, comes from the days of British colonies in the far East where Malaria was common.
Medical Officers found that a daily dose of Quinine would prevent the disease, the problem was that quinine tastes awful, so Gin was added to cover the taste.
Since every one in the colony was required to take their daily dose it became a daily social occasion when people would get together at the end of the day.  
Title: Re: Grog
Post by: deepwater on December 10, 2010, 02:21:06 PM
I remember reading somewhere that the RN used plain "fresh" water so the sailors had to drink it immediately, rather than saving up their "tot's" for a drunk. Another benefit was that the Captian could be sure the men were getting their vitamin C to prevent scurvy.
This was also the origin of the term "Limey" in reference to the English.
Another bit of English drinking trivia, The idea of the "Sundowner", What we refer to as Gin and Tonic, comes from the days of British colonies in the far East where Malaria was common.
Medical Officers found that a daily dose of Quinine would prevent the disease, the problem was that quinine tastes awful, so Gin was added to cover the taste.
Since every one in the colony was required to take their daily dose it became a daily social occasion when people would get together at the end of the day.  

seeing as I go to many malaria infested places... I too have made it a part of my daily routine.  ;D
love it,
deepwater
Title: Re: Grog
Post by: ellis4538 on December 10, 2010, 03:04:24 PM
Sounds like an excuse to get drunk!  I never needed one!!!!!


Richard
Title: Re: Grog
Post by: Bill Stryker on December 10, 2010, 03:50:42 PM
I remember reading somewhere that the RN used plain "fresh" water so the sailors had to drink it immediately, rather than saving up their "tot's" for a drunk. Another benefit was that the Captian could be sure the men were getting their vitamin C to prevent scurvy.
This was also the origin of the term "Limey" in reference to the English.
Another bit of English drinking trivia, The idea of the "Sundowner", What we refer to as Gin and Tonic, comes from the days of British colonies in the far East where Malaria was common.
Medical Officers found that a daily dose of Quinine would prevent the disease, the problem was that quinine tastes awful, so Gin was added to cover the taste.
Since every one in the colony was required to take their daily dose it became a daily social occasion when people would get together at the end of the day.  
Tom,
Great English drinking trivia. Here is another to tap your vast store of arcane English drinking trivia.
Tell us about how the term martini came to be used for a drink. And while you are at it, tell us what booze, gin or vodka, was used on the frontier of the empire for this evil concoction.
Title: Re: Grog
Post by: tombogan03884 on December 10, 2010, 03:59:55 PM
Bill, you got me stumped on this one .
But since Martini was a Victorian era British Army rifle I will guess that Gin is the proper spirit.
Title: Re: Grog
Post by: PegLeg45 on December 10, 2010, 04:38:43 PM
Best I could come up with:

http://www.martiniart.com/historyofthemartini.aspx

Title: Re: Grog
Post by: Timothy on December 10, 2010, 05:15:46 PM
My years behind the bar bring back the memory of an old Mixoligist book that I had behind the bar had the original mix for the Martini that consisted of the following.

Martini

5 parts dry Vermouth
1 part gin,
garnished with an olive.

Today, you fill a mixer with Bombay Sapphire or other top shelf gin and introduce the booze to the Vermouth from about a foot away without actually using any Vermouth.....

Add an olive for a Martini or an onion for a Gibson...

If you want a Vodka Martini, you should order it that way.  Gin has always been the original Martini alcohol...
Title: Re: Grog
Post by: crusader rabbit on December 11, 2010, 10:15:37 AM
While there is no empirical evidence that I have ever actually practiced temperance, I would sound a cautionary note about Pusser's:  Yes, it is delicious, but it has a very high residual sugar content which will lend itself to installing pounding hangovers.  ???

Unlike nearly ever other adult beverage, I would encourage moderation in the application of Pusser's. ;)
Title: Re: Grog
Post by: Bill Stryker on December 11, 2010, 04:58:22 PM
Tom, Pegleg and Timothy,

Thanks for the link and the info from a bar tenders perspective.

The Old Army line on the martini has it that its name comes from the KICK -- capitalization on purpose -- of the drink and the Martini Rifle both being whoppers. The same oral history has it that a true martini is always made with gin. The vermouth that I find the best is Boissiere. If you can't find that Noilly Prat is said to be very good as well. I haven't needed to open my Noilly Prat bottle in about 15 years as I still have a few inches of Boissiere in my "new" bottle that is over 20 years old. We like our martinis very, very dry. And, truth be told we don't drink them all that much at home. For myself, I prefer Scotch -- single malt or Famous Grouse on the rocks. But I do like martinis on occasion if I do not have to drive.  ;)
Title: Re: Grog and now Bumbo
Post by: wtr100 on December 29, 2010, 08:37:08 AM
Ok a friend came over and schooled me on an even more tastyerester rum drink

Bumbo - I guess sailors drank grog - Pirates drank bumbo

2 oz  Rum
1 oz Water
0.5 oz Lime Juice
2 tsp Brown Sugar
shake Nutmeg
shake Cinnamon

He said George Washington used to use this stuff when running for office - I googled it and found

To the political pirates of colonial America, the process of giving handouts in exchange for votes was known as “swilling the planters with bumbo”.  Sometimes, the bumbo was literally bumbo.  Such was the case in 1758, when one enterprising candidate running for the Virginia House of Burgesses treated 391 voters to 160 gallons of rum — or 6.5 cups per person. The candidate’s name was George Washington.

here's to President Washington!



Title: Re: Grog and now Bumbo
Post by: Timothy on December 29, 2010, 04:05:13 PM
Funny.

Bars are SUPPOSED to closed on election days!

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Grog and now Bumbo
Post by: fightingquaker13 on December 31, 2010, 04:24:32 AM
I owned (briefly) one of the few $1200 bottles of rum in America. It turns out that Old George was not only a patriot, but a distiller and a purveyor of the demons rum and whiskey.  Anyway, the Smthsonian, in a fundraiser for maintainence for Mt. Vernon, let a few liquor companies use the General's distilling tools to make some high end hootch to be auctioned off. A buddy worked for Cruzan rum, who used 5 year old single barrel anejo. He bid on two cases of his own stuff and won, and I got a bottle. He had no idea it would go for that much, and got in a bit of trouble with his boss trying to expense it (24 bottles times $1200 per bottle????? ;D). Still, it was wonderful. It was like fine cognac and I felt the urge to wear a tricorn hat while drinking it. ;) If George was giving this stuff out on election day? Its no wonder he won two terms.
FQ13 who feels more patriotic for having dunk the stuff. 8)
Title: Re: Grog
Post by: Solus on December 31, 2010, 01:51:05 PM
While there is no empirical evidence that I have ever actually practiced temperance, I would sound a cautionary note about Pusser's:  Yes, it is delicious, but it has a very high residual sugar content which will lend itself to installing pounding hangovers.  ???

Unlike nearly ever other adult beverage, I would encourage moderation in the application of Pusser's. ;)

Pusser's.....miss it...they stopped selling it in Ohio State Liquor stores...need to arrange a trip to KY....
Title: Re: Grog and now Bumbo
Post by: Solus on May 16, 2011, 09:18:07 AM
Since this thread has been somewhat artificially revived, I thought I'd take the opportunity to post a recipe to improve the taste of Coffee.

In a coffee cup of your preferred size, put:

1 tsp sugar.  I use brown sugar.   Amount of sugar should be adjusted to taste and cup size.
enough Pussars light rum to cover and dissolve the sugar.  Pussars dark can be used, but I save it for unadulterated drinking.
coffee to fill the cup to near the brim.

Stir to mix.

Now, using a spoon positioned so you can pour Half&Half or Heavy Cream or Whipping Cream over the back of the spoon so it does not mix with the coffee, but floats upon the top.

The cup is handled gently to keep the cream on top and it is sipped so a measure of the cream and coffee/rum/sugar mix is taken together.

Delightful and a intriguing beverage to prepare and share with a date who has a taste for rum and coffee.