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Title: You Can Drive A Truck Through The Cylinder Gap !
Post by: billt on December 20, 2010, 11:41:10 AM

http://www.jgsales.com/product_info.php/p/russian-1895-nagant-revolver%2C-in-7-62-nagant-caliber-/products_id/1059?osCsid=4cf5cd9e498a5768ce4a345f672fcf7d

Scroll down and click on the top left "Zoom" picture, and check out the cylinder gap. Are all Nagant revolvers like this? Not a bad gun for a C-note, but good God how could you possibly get any velocity with a cylinder gap like that?  Bill T.

Title: Re: You Can Drive A Truck Through The Cylinder Gap !
Post by: TAB on December 20, 2010, 11:50:42 AM

The cylinders move forward on nagants when they are cocked.  They also have a funky case.  the bullet is seated way deep and the lip of the case actualy contacts the forcing cone.

you can actually put a suppresor on a nagant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvF4yurWSc0



edit, here is what I'm talking about with the ammo, its the one on the left.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b5/7.62NagantCartridge.JPG)

the middle is a sw 32 long and a 22 lr on the right.

Title: Re: You Can Drive A Truck Through The Cylinder Gap !
Post by: billt on December 20, 2010, 12:06:54 PM

Pretty neat! That's not a bad design at all. It would prevent cylinder binding if you were to get crap on the front face.  Bill T.

Title: Re: You Can Drive A Truck Through The Cylinder Gap !
Post by: billt on December 20, 2010, 12:09:36 PM

Are the grips on these things wood, or plastic?  Bill T.

Title: Re: You Can Drive A Truck Through The Cylinder Gap !
Post by: TAB on December 20, 2010, 12:12:23 PM

well its the M1895, so I'd assume most are wood, but I know they made them til the end of ww2.  So some of the newer ones could have plastic.

Title: Re: You Can Drive A Truck Through The Cylinder Gap !
Post by: tombogan03884 on December 20, 2010, 01:24:01 PM

They are making Nagant Ammo again, Hornady I believe, but you can also buy a replacement cylinder that takes regular .32 ammo.
The pistol has always been considered extremely accurate but under powered.
It actually forms a double seal as the cylinder cams forward over the rear of the barrel while the cartridge mouth forms the inside seal.

Title: Re: You Can Drive A Truck Through The Cylinder Gap !
Post by: CJS3 on December 20, 2010, 01:34:34 PM

Quote from: billt on December 20, 2010, 12:09:36 PM

Are the grips on these things wood, or plastic?  Bill T.

The later made pistols have a plastic (bakelite?) grip.

Title: Re: You Can Drive A Truck Through The Cylinder Gap !
Post by: twyacht on December 20, 2010, 09:04:57 PM

That Nagant pistol ammo price is awful. :-[  A Tokarev, like deepwaters, is the Glock grand dad, and you can get ammo, and mags, much cheaper.

Also C&R eligible. One to throw in the truck/car, tool box, etc,...the damn thing is hard to beat. Thumping round as well.
Just something to consider... ::)

Title: Re: You Can Drive A Truck Through The Cylinder Gap !
Post by: tombogan03884 on December 21, 2010, 02:00:07 AM

Tokarev's are great and compact enough for CCW any where if you use an IWB holster . I've had several of the Chinese 9mm model 213's.
The European ones are chambered in 7.62 X25 which goes almost as cheap as 22LR

http://www.ammoengine.com/find/ammo/7.62x25mm_Tokarev