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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: Hazcat on December 23, 2010, 08:45:43 AM
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http://www.safetybullet.com/home.html
Got kids and a gun? Now, for the first time in history you can have a safety device that works when your gun is loaded or unloaded. More importantly it allows you to make your gun ready to fire faster than any other safety device made. It takes less than 1 second to remove the Safety Bullet® and load a lethal round!! ONE SECOND!!! Yet if your child finds your firearm and pulls the trigger, if you have a Safety Bullet® installed, your gun just became instantly disabled. There is nothing else like this in the market place, nothing!! It's fast, easy, fast, simple, fast, and safe. Did I also mention it's FAST!!
Videos at link.
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They forgot level 5 safety..."Stick your gun up your ass and no one can reach it to fire it."
Just what you need is to pick up a paperweight, thinking it's your gun.
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I feel safer already.
Next Magic Bullet!
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Well, two problems.
1. Your Six Shooter is turned into a Five Shooter and your auto goes from MagCapacity+1 to MagCapacity-1.
Also, notice they do not demonstrate how to make a revolver "ready". It appears it would take working the hammer to cycle the Safety Round to the firing position, then pulling the trigger to rotate a loaded round under the hammer. I guess it would get a little trickier with a shrouded hammer.
2. The procedure to make the gun ready, for both revolver and auto, required what amounts to cycling the action twice....under pressure. Fumble it, or forget to do it at all in the heat of the moment and you are left with a disabled SD weapon. You can still throw it, I guess.
Giving up one round of capacity in a revolver and two in an auto is a big price to pay. The risk of inadvertently rendering your SD weapon inert is, to me, a major concern.
I cannot see using these in my "ready guns", but then I don't have kids in the house and ready guns are either being carried or very close.
I can see these would be valuable for stored guns, particularly if there are kids or other visitors in your home who should not have access to a loaded weapon. Leaving the weapon unloaded does part of the job, but having the gun disable itself with an "unauthorized" pull of the trigger could be a plus.
For me, my ready guns will remain fully loaded and immediately function-able without the risk of becoming disabled....and I will continue to carry them and/or have them within reach.
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"As seen on Brady TV"
You know that a whole bunch of fake pro-gun people are going to jump all over this as a great safety device. However, in a true emergency you just turned you gun into a rock :( If you are afraid of someone shooting your loaded gun just don't put a round in the chamber, use locking devices and/or small safes!
The last thing anyone no matter what their training level is needs to do is to worry about whether they need to rack the slide before they shoot or not. If you set your gun up this way at night and train accordingly I guarantee that you will find yourself at Burger King at noon during a hold up, you will draw, rack the slide and take a round in the chest >:(
They have finally found something more dangerous than the warning shot or shoot to wound.
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Might as well leave your gun unloaded.
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I've never had kids, but I did have roomates and drunken idiots during grad achool (The two often blurred ::)). I kept my Glock in my night stand with a trigger lock. The key was taped to the back of said night stand (another was on the key chain and that's the only one the room mates knew about). It took about 30 seconds to grab the gun, grab the key and chamber a round. Not ideal, but a lot safer than going "Oh Crap, I forgot the gun would jam". ::) If you have to deal with idiots/tricycle moters in your house, use something that will either work or won't. I wouldn't choose a device that could booby trap me if I forgot when waking up. With my set up, I either had the key or I didn't. There was no "Oh crap" factor to consider. Just my .02.
FQ13
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Stuff like this encourages a false reliance on "mechanical safety" and leads to a decline in basic "Safe firearms handling" which would lead to an increase in accidents, not a decrease.
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Wouldn't an empty chamber result in the same thing for a semi-auto?
And besides, you don't have to worry about someone 'coon-fingering' your pistol if you have it on. If you don't have it on, keep it where it can't be 'got to' by anyone other than you.
JMHO....FWIW.
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Wouldn't an empty chamber result in the same thing for a semi-auto?
And besides, you don't have to worry about someone 'coon-fingering' your pistol if you have it on. If you don't have it on, keep it where it can't be 'got to' by anyone other than you.
JMHO....FWIW.
That was the only benefit of that device. It would disable the gun if an unknowledgeable person started to play with it.
Of course that is also it's biggest disadvantage. It disables the gun if a harried owner needs it in a hurry and forgets to double rack the slide.
And yes, the best practice is to keep your ready gun(s) under personal control at all times when others are around.
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Like I posted before, these type of devices lead to the mindset that " I don't need to practice safe handling , I use BANG
OOPS.
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Always my prefered option, but a lot of states will put your ass in jail for it if you associate with rugrats on a regular basis. Some type of security is mandatory (even if I and my friends managed to not shoot ourselves with our father's unsecured weapons, and they and their friends, and their parents and their friends manged to pull off the same feat : ::). So, in order to appease the anti's and those with poor parenting skills, we need to put up with this crap. Still, I am skeptical of this device. Its right up there with the key activated safety. Its just something else to go wrong in a crisis. Thanks, but I'll pass.
FQ13
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Like I posted before, these type of devices lead to the mindset that " I don't need to practice safe handling , I use BANG
OOPS.
Yep.
I lost a cousin 25 years ago to an 'unloaded gun'.......
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There is only one firearm safety......
THE NUT BEHIND THE BUTT
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I could see using for advanced live fire courses to teach immediate action and/or transitioning to a backup.
Or a really bad practical joke to play to a buddy at the range.
HORRIBLE idea for a safety device. And if it isn't APPROVED by the powers that be, it doesn't count as a protective device from children anyway.