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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: rat31465 on December 23, 2010, 06:58:32 PM
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PINAL COUNTY, Ariz. (KGUN9-TV) - Sheriff Paul Babeu has announced he plans to use deadly force, if necessary, to drive smugglers and border bandits out of his part of the desert.
Sheriff Babeu said that in the week following the shooting death of a Border Patrol agent, the Sheriff admits the chances of having a gun fight in the desert are extremely high.
Babeu says deadly force will be used if his deputies confront dangerous cartels.
"I've given specific instruction, no less than lethal force is going to be used. It's all lethal force only and we go into that environment knowing that we're likely expecting an armed threat from these people,"
The full story can be read here.
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/KatiePavlich
Wonder how long it will be before Obama, Holder and Napolitano have this department up on a Lawsuit/Charges over this? People of Arizona and the United States are tiring of the ineffectually manner in which the current administration is handling matters.
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I'll bet it's the first time one of his Deputies drops some "Unfortunate, undocumented, unlicensed pharmacuticals importer"
(AKA, armed drug smuggling invader)
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At first blush, you look at this and say, "This guy is trying to steal the blowhard Arizona Sheriff award from Sheriff Joe". Then you look at the facts. The thing is, if ever there was an old west, shoot to kill environment, its the Arizona border. I wish the guy well. To my mind, if the feds have the money to hassel this guy, they have the money to do their job so he doesn't have to. Its damn dangerous down there and it shouldn't be. If the feds did their jobs (and here I blame every President from Reagan to BO) we wouldn't have this problem. If the locals stand up and say no mas? Well, the blame falls in DC.
FQ13
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At first blush, you look at this and say, "This guy is trying to steal the blowhard Arizona Sherriff award from Sheriff Joe". Then you look at the facts. The thing is, if ever there was an old west, shoot to kill environment, its the Arizona border. I wish the guy well. To my mind, if the feds have the money to hassel his guy, they have the money to their job so he doesn't have to. Its damn dangerous down there and it shouldn't be. If the feds did their jobs (and here I blame every President from Reagan Kennedy to BO) we wouldn't have this problem. If the locals stand up and say no mas? Well, the blame falls in DC.
FQ13
FIFY
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Sheriff Paul Babeu is an awesome guy.
There was a ch 12 (NBC) wrapup Sunday about the 'big' interviews they did in 2010. The talking head kept baiting Babeu and the sheriff didn't get sucked in - he stuck to his beliefs, stated the facts and made the talking head look like an uneducated school boy. ;D ;D
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Why is this news? The cartel's have killed tens of thousands in their own country, cut up bodies and put them in 55g drums, rape and pillage the border towns in Mexico, and have stated, they are going to have snipers target LEO's, ICE, civilians on OUR side.
American property owners/ranchers have been killed down there already. NOW this sheriff says this? ???
Where the hell has he been? Bueller??
Where's OUR snipers? OUR helicopter gunships? OUR NG? How about a couple of armed drones? How about a deputized volunteer citizen militia?
This is like the Somali pirates, the only thing that rectifies the situation is DESTROYING THEM. Yet Big Sis, previous admin's, play tiddlywinks with politics, and blame US for furnishing all those guns to the cartel's....
How's that border wall working? Oh, that's right,,,,they stopped construction, and made sure "water" stations were available.
Because it's hot and dry out there. >:(
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MB says it well on this week's podcast (192). Those of you who don't listen, this would be a good first time to tune it.
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I agree! I don't know how far back it goes, but the border was porous in the 60's, and they weren't all "nice" people coming across either.
Two things draw the ire of the American liberal: 1. Body count of our soldiers when we enter war; and 2. When law enforcement drops the hammer on an illegal alien undocumented foreign national (fixed in preparation for the PC crowd).
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Ike was the last Pres. to stage an "Operation Wetback", deporting all the illegal's they could find.
So it's been since JFK.
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The Bimbo that heads Homeland Security will protect those illegals and prosecute Americans defending this country. She needs to be thrown out of office
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The Bimbo that heads Homeland Security will protect those illegals and prosecute Americans defending this country. She needs to be thrown out of office the country.
There, that sounds better.
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The Bimbo that heads Homeland Security will protect those illegals and prosecute Americans defending this country. She needs to be thrown out of office a plane
Sounds even better ;D
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Sounds even better ;D
Come to think of it, yeah, you're right.
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You are both wrong. She should be required to spend six months living in an isolated house on the border outside of Nogales with no security detail. Lets see how long it would take her to arm herself and start wondering what jackass was in charge of the border patrol (oh, wait :-[ ;D).
FQ13
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The Bimbo that heads Homeland Security will protect those illegals and prosecute Americans defending this country. She needs to be thrown out of office the space shuttle
even better
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I agree that our Government is responsible for the problem we face; the really sad thing is I believe it is not because of incompetence, but by design. The power hungry politicians know that the more dependent's they let into our country, the more people need them to take care of them. On the flip side the more free independent people there are the less they are needed and they have less power to control people.
The border is only part of it, it runs much deeper just look at the junk they pass and sign into law, most of which is designed to give people stuff and create more government dependent's and reduce the amount of people who can take care of themselves and don’t need them.
That is the whole reason they only talk about solving problems and pass junk that only makes it worse, because if the problems were really solved there would be very little need for them. The amount of B.S. that comes out of the politicians in Washington could cover the earth 100 times over!
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Jp
There is an absoutely wonderful Libertarian Sci-fi novel called "An Enemy of the State" by F. Paul Wilson. It should be required reading for all forum members. It basically details a succesful revolution against a corrupt socialist government by means of attacking their worthless fiat currency (sound familiar?). Anyway to paraphrase, there is a great line in the book that deals exactly with your point. "On the day that 51% of the population derived the greater part of their income fom the state, the politicians had a celebration. The public was not invited". Enough said.
FQ13 who really does highly reccomend the book and to a lesser degree the others in LaNague trilogy.
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I agree that our Government is responsible for the problem we face; the really sad thing is I believe it is not because of incompetence, but by design.
As for the Bimbo in charge....I like the idea of tossing her out of the shuttle...can we direct her towards the sun instead of allowing her putrid body to impact the earth...?
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It's just a dang shame that the Feds won't do their job and protect and lock down our porous border. If things don't change, many innocent Americans are likely to face dangers, death and harm that is far worse than any armed drug lords. I pray that all who are protecting our borders remain safe and that they can avoid deadly shootouts with those well armed illegal thugs.
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After enough American's die because of this there will be a backlash. Remember the Klan lynching blacks ? That also was caused by politicians serving their own interests. It is always the same, whether it's Hitler scapegoating the Jews, or the French nobility doing the same to Protestants, or the Democrats trying to build a Hispanic voting base on illegals or welfare recipients. And they are always surprised when their grand vision collapses in bloodshed.
The only good thing is that they, like Mussolini, usually join the innocent who are slaughtered in the cross fire.
In Iraq we and the Iraqi people would have been best served by the killing of just Saddam and the Baathist leaders. Nazi Germany the same way, millions of lives would have been saved by a few selective killings.
But that just isn't "civilized" is it ?
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millions of lives would have been saved by a few selective killings.
But that just isn't "civilized" is it ?
Thanks to Slick Willy placing a moratorium on Government Approved Assassination during his time in office.
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Thanks to Slick Willy placing a moratorium on Government Approved Assassination during his time in office.
You can't blame it all on BJ, the last Pres who actually allowed assassinations was JFK, but being a Dem he did not have guts enough to accept full responsibility so he farmed it out to people who turned it into a clusterf*#k.
As for Allende in Chile, while we took no steps to prevent the Coup, we neither encouraged nor participated.
The proof being that Congress did not leak details in advance, it was successful,and we did not wind up deploying 500,000 troops. :-\