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Member Section => Handguns => Topic started by: clayflingythingy on February 25, 2008, 05:44:17 PM
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Just gave the 2008 Sig catalog a quick browse and the GSR isn't listed.
Sig is listing a whole bunch of 1911s tho! ;D
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Do they still brag about being metal injection molding free?
I read somewhere that they started using some MIM pieces parts...
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So does that mean that mine is now a collector's item?
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So does that mean that mine is now a collector's item?
Nope, It just means that like you, it's an old model. ;D
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Do they still brag about being metal injection molding free?
I read somewhere that they started using some MIM pieces parts...
"No plastic parts. Only premium internal components..."
Those quotes allow for MIM I suppose. I am not one of those anti MIM parts fanatics, myself. I am all for modern methods. Hells bells, Colts were made the old fashioned way and I have never shot a Colt that impressed me at all. My experience with 1970s era 1911 Govt's made by Colt and owned by friends is one of lousy triggers and so-so accuracy.
Cars aren't made like they used to be either but I'll take todays over those old classics. I've heard too many of the old timers relate stories about how cars wouldn't start if the temp dipped below freezing, you had to change the spark plugs every 10,000 miles ,etc.
MIM is a process like any other. It is not necessarily inferior to other methods of making parts.
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If you look at Sig's website pictures they are still marked "GSR" even though they are listed as "Revolution", which I suspect is the R anyway.
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Nope, It just means that like you, it's an old model. ;D
I resemble that remark.
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I hate the idea of metal injection molding, but then I'm a machine operator so I'm prejudiced :D 1) finish machining on any type of casting is a pain to set up due to the irregularity of the cast surface as opposed to identical cut stock, 2) it's rough on tooling, 3) no matter how good the process (better process is worse for me) it threatens my livelihood, manual machining is already becoming a lost art in industry, preserved by a dwindling number of "Old timers and hobbyists in home work shops. I'd hate to see CNC machining go the same way :(
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I agree MIM is a manufacturing process like any other. If it is not properly controlled it can produce sub standard parts. I agree with the machinist.Machining is becoming less prevalant every day in the US. But it too can produce sub standard parts if the process is not properly controlled.So at the end of the day it really comes down to personal preference and how much you are willing to spend. To keep guns afordable for most people manufacutres have to find ways to make guns that are reliable and economical.If you really have to have every thing machined from billet and bar stock you can get out your check book and go the custom route. Just my HO
Keep your weapons claen and your ammo dry, like the Boy Scots-Be Prepared
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It only took one trip to the factory and then a trip to my gunsmith to get my GSR working properly. Read: going bang when the trigger was pulled. ::)
What irks me is the stupid manhole cover on the slide for the series 80 parts.
If you are looking at a SIG 1911, IMO don't get one with the above mentioned slide. You have to buy a special tool to get the cover off.
AFAIK, any other 1911 maker seems OK with the owner being able to strip the gun down to bare parts...except SIG.
I would buy another one - if the price was right. Once they get running right (gunsmith) they are great pistols.
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I just bought one of the last Sig GSR XOs in stainless finish. $599 delivered from BudsGunShop brand new. I hear they bought Sigs remaining stock of these now that they are discontinued.
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Please post some pics of that XO from Buds when you get it.
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well that's a crapper! I was hoping to buy one down the road and now they are gonna discontinue them?... ???
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well that's a crapper! I was hoping to buy one down the road and now they are gonna discontinue them?... ???
You can get one at www.gunsnh.com about $900, I saw it saturday.
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Here is my $599 Sig GSR I got today
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f396/carlb86/Photo0061.jpg)
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f396/carlb86/Photo0062.jpg)
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f396/carlb86/Photo0063.jpg)
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f396/carlb86/Photo0065.jpg)
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SOLID! ;D
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NICE!
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-The frame to slide fit is very good. I am used to a Colt Series 80, and this thing makes it seem loose.
-The trigger feels very clean without being broken in, and you don't really notice the trigger safety.
- I was dry firing and using the reset method I shoot Glocks with, the gun feels superb.
-The magazines are not Novak's/ACT-Mag like most Sig 1911s come with. They are a knock off that will not the first round in a full mag if it is JHP, but it will if you load only 7 rounds.
-The thumb safety appears and feels like MIM or some other non-machined part.
-The "speed bump" on the grip safety works great! Often my hand will not engage a beaver tail
-The grips are a hard plastic. Which I like since they looked like squishy rubber from the pics.
-The sights are three dot contrast Novak's
-The MSH is metal
-The thumb safety and slide stop are slightly extended, but more like a "tactical" model like from Wilson
-The mag release button sits higher than my Colt, so I guess it is extended
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Good lookin' gun!.. Why would they discontinue them so soon?
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Good lookin' gun!.. Why would they discontinue them so soon?
Guess people preferred the Black coating on the XO.
I ran 150 rounds of various FMJ and some mixed in Ranger Bonded. Fired every round and not miss feeds :D.
I don't think this really is a 1911 since it is accurate and works every time.
EDIT: Forgot to mention I didn't have my holster yet, so it was in my pocket while locked back. It fell muzzle first into the dirt and plugged the barrel. I pushed it out with a stick and ran a bore snake a few times and blew dirt our of the internals. It proceeded to shoot the remaining 100 rounds.