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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: Teresa Heilevang on February 27, 2008, 01:45:50 AM
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It could not have said any better..
The whole world is nucking futs!!
http://www.dotsub.com/films/moredemands/index.php?autostart=true&language_setting=en_1618
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It could not have said any better..
The whole world is nucking futs!!
http://www.dotsub.com/films/moredemands/index.php?autostart=true&language_setting=en_1618
Interesting. I happened to agree with everything he said, but then it would be hard not to.
Sadly, though, I went to his website, and Pat seems to have some serious problems with any religion - his bigoted diatribes against Islam are part of his bigoted views on religion as a whole. They are his opinions after all, and he is welcome to them, pat of that whole pesky freedom thingee. However, he humorously misses the fact that while railing against the bigotry of Islam and the Saudi Royal family, he is demonstrating his own. At least he doesn't cut anyone's head of on video, he has a sense of humor, and a delightful British accent.
And nucking futs the world is.
Happy (day after) Birthday M'ette, and thanks for finding this. Wish I had your job . . .
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pathfinder,
You are extremely naive when you attempt to defend a faith like fundamentalist Islam that, as practiced by millions, keeps its people firmly rooted in the middle ages and denies basic rights to half of their society (women).
Do you really want to defend a faith that allows women to be stoned to death for various sins?
The Mayans and Aztecs practiced human sacrifice. It was part of their religious faith. Human sacrifice is wrong no matter what your religion says about the matter.
Fundamentalist Islam, as practiced in Iran, Saudi Arabia and other nations is morally wrong in its treatment of women. Fundamentalist Islam takes away the rights of individuals to decide things for themselves. The mullahs make pronouncements that the peons must follow. The mullahs like it this way because it keeps them in power and living the good life. The state and religion is intertwined. Religion is the glue that holds the power structure together and keeps the elite in power.
Fundamentalist Islam as practiced in Saudi Arabia and Iran and other nations is morally bankrupt.
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Clay, I read Pathfinders post twice, I don't see anywhere that he was defending Islam. He was simply pointing out that the Guy in the video has beefs about ALL religions.
Interesting. I happened to agree with everything he said, but then it would be hard not to.
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Just my opinion. ..
but everywhere "stuff" is done hiding behind the dogma of religion.. No matter if it is Fundamentalist Islam, high and mighty holy roller's in the states calling themselves "Christians"..or the other 100,000 seculars of man made churches and man made laws attaching themselves to it for personal gain and power reasons.... it is still common sense to "treat people as you want to be treated". Simple as it may seem.. it should be the Golden Rule.
Stoning people to death.. killing people in the name of "the higher power" because it doesn't fit your man made religious power hungry doctrine ..is wrong, no matter where, or what part of the world you live in. And they do this in the name of the higher spiritual power??!?? Sorry, because it seems to be "bashing" their beliefs..I can't stand back and condone it! I can't personally do anything about it.. but I damned sure won't sit back and say that they have that right , because it is their religious freedom..
Wrong. It is everyone's religious freedom to "worship " their God/Goddess the way that they want.. it is NOT their right to kill, maim, torture and do harm to someone because that person chooses to NOT "go by the rules".
Harm, Hurt and Worship are not on the same line.
I guess when all of these types of people finally fill up the US...(as they are starting to do).. and we are stepping back to make accommodation's for them..( as we are already starting to do) we all "might" have a bit of a different opinion about people who speak out about crazy religious practices..
Once again..respectfully saying..... Taking it to any limit you want to... and I might be in the minority here ...but I agree pretty much with what he said.
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As our friends across the pond would say... "F*#%ing brilliant!"
Good link!
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I agree with Tombogan03884, I don't see where Pathfinder is defending anyone!
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Thanks for everyone who stood up for me. My workplace has very aggressive filters and i cannot even get close to this site during the day. No wi-fi, so I can't even bring my own machine and wardrive off of the company's signal. Bummer.
Anyhow, Tomboggan and cookie are right, the very aboslutely last thing I would do is defend a misogynistic, feudal, backward anti-freedom so-called "religion" like Islam. Any questions?
I'm trying to be a good Christian here, but it is awful tempting to go with the old adage - Kill 'em all and let God sort them out. Tempting, but so far I've held off. If they continue to infiltrate and corrupt this country, though, I can't vouch for others not resisting the temptation.
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his bigoted diatribes against Islam are part of his bigoted views on religion as a whole.
If I misintrepreted that part of your statement I apologise. That was the part that "jumped out at me".
clay
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If I misintrepreted that part of your statement I apologise. That was the part that "jumped out at me".
clay
Clay -
No problem. I have always believed that reasonable men can disagree. And the part that jumped out at you was the message I was trying to convey, that this guy hates all religions and that was the basis behind his comments. I found that interesting, although I should have made it clearer that this in no way invalidates his opinions re' Islam.
Case closed IMHO. ;)
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As long as they've got it, and we require it, there can be no seperation and therefore, no peace. We have to get off oil, or establish a secure source. Wonder what the Obama plan might be? Mac.