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Member Section => Handguns => Topic started by: TAB on January 16, 2011, 02:12:50 PM
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Which do you prefer for a wheel gun that will be a hunter and target gun only?
it will be in 41 mag.
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Personally I like 6" better, but the 8" may be more accurate due to the longer sight radius.
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Plus the extra 2" is a big deal in developing velocity with a handgun.
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8 inch will help hold the muzzle down on recoil for quicker follow up shots on game.
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For the criteria you mentioned. 8" hands down. It's already a hog's leg. As posted, velocity, accuracy, recoil, all get better with an extra 2".
Than you have the ported option also....but in 41 mag. should not be an issue, and a damn fine hunting pistol.
41 mag? Not like FQ's 454 Casull, .460 S&W, the 500?
Why the .41?
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Why the 41? I can.
I like being diffrent when it comes to things like that.
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Why the 41? I can.
I like being diffrent when it comes to things like that.
I can only smile :D :D
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For the criteria you mentioned. 8" hands down. It's already a hog's leg. As posted, velocity, accuracy, recoil, all get better with an extra 2".
Than you have the ported option also....but in 41 mag. should not be an issue, and a damn fine hunting pistol.
41 mag? Not like FQ's 454 Casull, .460 S&W, the 500?
Why the .41?
He started a thread a while back about this TW. He got a .44 Mag with a bulged barrel for the cost of the transfer, since it was the same frame as the .41 (N ? ) all he has to do is screw off the old barrel replace the cylinder and screw on the new barrel.
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what you don't like being on the firing line with a gun that you know no one else there has?
I'm like that with boats, cars, guns... hell all my toys are like that.
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what you don't like being on the firing line with a gun that you know no one else there has?
I'm like that with boats, cars, guns... hell all my toys are like that.
Not a bit, I'd like to shoot CAS with a pair of S&W #3 top breaks, everyone uses Colts. ;D
Then there's the Coonan 1911 in .357 Mag ;D
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That's great TAB, I have eclectic, unique, antique furniture from the 1840's, and thoroughly enjoy being the one that has something not found at every range or collection.
But as I remember, you were bitchin' about the cost of 257 Roberts ammo,....I imagine 41 magnum costs are moot for you. ::)
After all, for a hunting pistol, it won't take many.
Stick with an 8". Cross draw holster, big SOB, like a S&W 500. but you'll certainly knock down what your aiming at.
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Check the target organization rules. If they allow eight inch, and if you can handle the eight inch while shooting according to their rules (that extra two inches will be very noticeable during one handed shots on target), go with eight inch for the hunting.
If the target organization rules only allow six inch or less, go with the six inch. There will be a difference in bullet velocity, but at handgun range it will not be a major factor in hunting.
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That's great TAB, I have eclectic, unique, antique furniture from the 1840's, and thoroughly enjoy being the one that has something not found at every range or collection.
But as I remember, you were bitchin' about the cost of 257 Roberts ammo,....I imagine 41 magnum costs are moot for you. ::)
After all, for a hunting pistol, it won't take many.
Stick with an 8". Cross draw holster, big SOB, like a S&W 500. but you'll certainly knock down what your aiming at.
257 weatherby, not roberts. 257 roberst is off the 7x57 muaser case and can be made cheap. the 257 weatherby does not have parent case so its big bucks. loaded ammo is only a few buck more then brass, there is only one manufactor of brassn norma. its about $70 for 20. 41 mag is cheap and so is the brass.
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what you don't like being on the firing line with a gun that you know no one else there has?
I love it. Touch off a round of .357Max in my T/C and everybody takes one step back from their shooting lane. And the other day with the new 624, people wanted to know what was making all those big holes in the target. It's one reason I'm looking for either a 625 LC or a 460 as my next gun.
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41 mag is cheap and so is the brass.
Just FYI, I was pricing .44Spl brass and found I could buy it directly from Starline's web site cheaper than from the on-line retailers. Ordered up 500 cases for starters. Same price for .41Mag - $147.75 per 1,000
http://www.starlinebrass.com (http://www.starlinebrass.com)
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Tab I have a 4" old 57, pinned and recessed, with lead bullets, shoots like a laser, I prefer 5" barrels, easier to carry, even on the hip and sitting in a car, get the little bit of velocity, but in a very carriable package, It kind of depends on your eyesight, the 8" does have some advantages for sight radius and velocity, but carry is not that easy, I have been playing with 270 grn gas check bullets, get back to you on that experiment.
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I like the .41 magnum. Its like the 10mm, a great cartridge that never took off the way it should. As far as your question? I guess the question is whether you will scope it or not. If you are, it 6" hands down. Sight radius doesn't matter and why deal with the extra weight? If not, its harder. Still, I'm not really sure what 8" buys that 6" doesn't with good sights, unless you plan on shooting iron at 100 yards. Even then, I'd weigh ergonomics vs accuracy into the equation when making the the call. Be advised though, I think Ruger had it right with the 4 5/8" barrel and I'm a bit biased towards shorter just for weildability issues. Either way, good luck. And yeah, I used to shoot a 16 gauge, so I get the oddball attraction. ;)
FQ13
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Just because I can't stand to agree with FQ I will mention that the Ruger Blackhawk I used to have was 7 5/8 and it was not at all inconvenient. (Except the time I sat down with it stuck in my belt :o )
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I used to shoot IHMSA type (metallic silhouette) matches with a .44 Ruger Super Blackhawk that has a 10.5" barrel. If you practice, you get used to the weight.
The 8" (as others have stated) is the way to go, especially for maximizing a hunting round's effectiveness....IMHO.
And the .41 could possibly be a better hunting round than the .44 on many game animals due to the tendency to have flatter trajectories. The difference in diameter of the bullet is negligible.
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It won't see a scope. It might see some pigs and deer, but thats about it. I'm not really into hunting 4 legged criters, I prefer the kind with wings. No BS, the pigs in CA on average weight twice what the average deer does. a 100 lb deer is big for most of CA.
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TAB, If you want more ease of carry, I'd go with 6 In. If you want more accuracy, and don't care about ease of carry, 8 inch. A bandolier/chest holster will be the best way to carry the 8 inch gun, if you go that route. I had a 7 & 1/2 inch Redhawk, and it was scary accurate. If it's just gonna be a hunter, I'd probably go with the 8 inch.