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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: tombogan03884 on January 24, 2011, 01:20:00 PM
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110124/ap_on_re_us/us_florida_police_shooting
More at link
ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. – A man hiding in the attic of a home sparked an intense firefight with authorities trying to arrest him on a warrant Monday morning, killing two officers and wounding a deputy U.S. Marshal, police said.
St. Petersburg Police Chief Chuck Harmon said more than 100 rounds were fired during the shootout, which was the latest in a recent rash of shootings across the nation that have killed or wounded law enforcement officers.
The officers had come to arrest Hydra Lacy Jr., 39, on an aggravated battery charge, and investigators believe he is the one who opened fire on the officers, police spokesman Michael Puetz said. He said Lacy had a long record that includes convictions for armed robbery and sexual battery.
As of midday, the shooter was still barricaded inside the home, police said.
"He was somebody we wanted to get off the streets, " Harmon said. "Who expects to walk into a house and get gunfire from the attic?"
Harmon would not identify the dead officers pending notification of their relatives.
The marshal was shot twice but was doing fine, Chief Deputy U.S. Marshal Tom Figmik said.
Didn't they have a similar incident in Miami last week ?
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Who the heck holes up in the attic? You were planning on getting out how? Couldn't a round dozen gas grenades solve this problem PDQ? Either the gas should flush him or they'll set the place on fire. Barring hostages it seems like 6 of one half dozen of the other.
FQ13
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Remember Frank Rizzo in Philly ?
You want to be careful with that "Burning them out " stunt.
Dropping bombs from helicopters is not recommended either. ;D
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Alternate CS and flash bangs, works wonders in enclosed spaces with little ventilation ;D
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Remember Frank Rizzo in Philly ?
You want to be careful with that "Burning them out " stunt.
Dropping bombs from helicopters is not recommended either. ;D
A bottle of ammonia and an oscillating fan might work wonders.......
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UPDATE :
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110124/ap_on_re_us/us_florida_police_shooting
By TAMARA LUSH and MITCH STACY, Associated Press Tamara Lush And Mitch Stacy, Associated Press – 17 mins ago
ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. – Authorities and a fugitive holed up in an attic fired more than 100 shots at each other Monday in a firefight that killed two officers, wounded a deputy U.S. marshal and led to an hourslong standoff that ended when the suspect was found dead inside the home.
St. Petersburg Police spokesman Michael Puetz said the suspect was found dead when officers went into the home Monday afternoon, about six hours after the shootout, the latest in a recent rash of shootings across the nation that have killed or wounded law enforcement officers.
The law enforcement agents came to arrest Hydra Lacy Jr., 39, around 7 a.m. on an aggravated battery charge, and investigators believe he is the one who opened fire on them, Puetz said. They had not confirmed Lacy was the shooter.
He said Lacy had a long record that includes convictions for armed robbery and sexual battery. He was listed as a sex offender with the state and had failed to register in December with the Pinellas County Sheriff's Department as required.
"He was somebody we wanted to get off the streets, " Police Chief Chuck Harmon said. "Who expects to walk into a house and get gunfire from the attic?"
Harmon would not identify the dead officers pending notification of their relatives.
The marshal was shot twice but was doing fine, Chief Deputy U.S. Marshal Tom Figmik said.
Initially, one of the officers, the marshal and a Pinellas County Sheriff's deputy arrived at the house and were told by a woman that Lacy was in the attic. The three called for backup. The officer and the marshal were shot before backup arrived, Puetz said. He said the second officer was later shot as he tried to rescue the wounded men. The deputy and the woman were not hurt.
After the gunfight, authorities had tried to force the gunman out by cutting off the home's electricity and water.
Earlier, police used a vehicle to punch a hole in the wall to get to one of the officers who later died, Puetz said.
Another police spokesman at the scene, Bill Proffitt, said it was possible the suspect used one of the officers' guns during the struggle in the attic.
The home, situated in a middle-class neighborhood on the south side of St. Petersburg, was listed in Lacy's name, according to property records. After the shootout, a Department of Homeland Security armored tactical vehicle was parked nearby, as dozens of law enforcement officers congregated on nearby streets. A police tank was also trained on the home.
Court records show Lacy failed to show for his scheduled trial Nov. 1 on the aggravated battery charge, and an arrest warrant was issued the next day.
State records show Lacy was convicted in 1989 of armed burglary, resisting arrest with violence and other charges. He was released from prison 1991. In 1992, he was convicted of sexual battery with a weapon or force and false imprisonment of a child. He was released in from prison 2001. Details on those convictions were not immediately available.
Monday's shooting is the latest in a string of shootings of police officers and comes four days after two Miami-Dade County detectives were killed by a murder suspect they were trying to arrest. That suspect was killed by another detective.
The officers were being remembered Monday at a funeral, where news of Monday's shooting added to the grief already palpable among the thousands gathered at American Airlines Arena in downtown Miami.
On Sunday, a man opened fire inside a Detroit police precinct, wounding four officers including a commander before he was shot and killed by police. Authorities said the gunman walked in just after 4 p.m. and fired indiscriminately. The officers' injuries were not considered life-threatening, said Police Chief Ralph Godbee.
And on Monday, a Lincoln City, Ore., police officer was critically wounded when he was shot during a traffic stop. Oregon State Police said the officer had pulled the suspect over for speeding.
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Associated Press writers Christine Armario and Lisa Orkin contributed to this report from Miami.
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Armed burgalary and resisting with violence and he gets 2 years? That doesn't sound right, unless the "weapon" was a screwdriver or something. Sexual battery on a child? And he was out why? He got bail on another aggravated battery charge why? ???
FQ13
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Because Judges are nothing but lawyers that kissed the right azz, and lawyers stick together.
I say if a Judge gives a light sentence he should be held accountable for the criminals future actions.
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The career criminal Simms, that killed two Warrant Task Force officers, here in Miami, continued to be "let out" over and over....
Stole a Glock 22 .40 caliber, (really?), and shot two officers, wearing body armor, in the face. Later, dispatched by the "back-up" officers, as he was running and firing at the remaining LEO's.
Seems THIS is the problem. Granting release to violent felons....again, and again,....
But yet, more Gun Control Laws will keep these scumbags from getting a firearm?
I can go to Sistrunk Blvd. here in Ft. Laud. with some cash, and get a gun in about 20 minutes. I'm sure in other urban areas, even NYC, or LA, Chicago, or Boston, it's about the same.
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The career criminal Simms, that killed two Warrant Task Force officers, here in Miami, continued to be "let out" over and over....
Stole a Glock 22 .40 caliber, (really?), and shot two officers, wearing body armor, in the face. Later, dispatched by the "back-up" officers, as he was running and firing at the remaining LEO's.
Seems THIS is the problem. Granting release to violent felons....again, and again,....
But yet, more Gun Control Laws will keep these scumbags from getting a firearm?
I can go to Sistrunk Blvd. here in Ft. Laud. with some cash, and get a gun in about 20 minutes. I'm sure in other urban areas, even NYC, or LA, Chicago, or Boston, it's about the same.
There was an incident a few years back here in south Georgia where a guy was 'let out' by a judge....even though the guy was known to be unstable and violent. The day after his release, he attacked his estranged girlfriend, her mom, and her kids with implements including a shovel and cordless drill. Several of the victims were killed.
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The career criminal Simms, that killed two Warrant Task Force officers, here in Miami, continued to be "let out" over and over....
Stole a Glock 22 .40 caliber, (really?), and shot two officers, wearing body armor, in the face. Later, dispatched by the "back-up" officers, as he was running and firing at the remaining LEO's.
Seems THIS is the problem. Granting release to violent felons....again, and again,....
But yet, more Gun Control Laws will keep these scumbags from getting a firearm?
I can go to Sistrunk Blvd. here in Ft. Laud. with some cash, and get a gun in about 20 minutes. I'm sure in other urban areas, even especially NYC, or LA, Chicago, or Boston, it's about the same.
FIFY ::)
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My heart goes out to the families of the officers who were killed and injured.... :(
We certainly did not need this, especially on the eve of Obama's address to the nation..... :(
From the reports I read, I didn't get any info on the weapon(s) he used....If he had used a PIF (politically incorrect firearm) that would have been blasted all over the news.....
With all due respect to the officers who died, I do not want to hear any sh!t from the competition-has-no-practical-benefit crowd; these officers had the "tactical" training and still died.....
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I bet I could goto oakland with a bunch of cash and have a M2 machine gun with in a week.
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In Oakland you could probably get a Stinger missile in 2 weeks. ::)
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I bet I could goto oakland with a bunch of cash and have a M2 machine gun with in a week.
We have stricter laws than you guys and I guarantee you I could get a sks etc with ammo with in a week and a shit load of handguns. Laws are only good for the honest folk.
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In Oakland you could probably get a stack of Stinger missiles in 2 weeks. ::)
fify
You were being generous
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fify
You were being generous
Yes, I was. ;D
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In Oakland you could probably get a Stinger missile in 2 weeks. ::)
I'm sure I could get a M1 tank if I had the cash.
Might take 3 weeks. ;D
For those of you that don't know, parts of oakland make the bad parts of TJ look good.
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I'm sure I could get a M1 tank if I had the cash.
Might take 3 weeks. ;D
For those of you that don't know, parts of oakland make the bad parts of TJ Kabul, Bahgdad, or Belfast look good.
;D
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I have little doubt that if you look at the stats those places are much safer.
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They were safer than Washington DC, that was one of the point's made during the debate about the Heller case.
An American was 4X safer in Bahgdad than in DC.