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Flying Dragon Productions ( Michael Bane ) => The Best Defense on My Outdoor TV => Topic started by: McGyver on January 26, 2011, 07:00:00 PM

Title: Limited Mobility Show
Post by: McGyver on January 26, 2011, 07:00:00 PM
Very good and interesting show! I've been waiting for 4yrs for this subject to be addressed, and you folks did a fine job of it!

I realize what a touchy subject this can be, and RP and MJ covered it in a very informing and empathetic way.
Thanks to you all at DRTV!

Title: Re: Limited Mobility Show
Post by: Walter45Auto on January 27, 2011, 01:44:48 AM
I'm watching this one right now. I've been on crutches a few times for sprained ankles. The last time, I set up a belt pouch on the crutches under the handles. One for a revolver, one for a water bottle. The only reason the gun pouch worked for me, is that I was able to keep it zipped open, because I stayed at my house. This could have been a disadvantage because most "gun bags" need your weak hand to open them while you access the gun. Got me thinking, Is there any pouches out there that are easy to open with the strong hand?
Title: Re: Limited Mobility Show
Post by: Rob Pincus on January 27, 2011, 06:43:16 AM
Glad you guys liked the show.... it was definitely one that we approached with caution and talked to several people with disabilities about before we took it on.

As for the one handed opening pouches, many "fanny packs" have velcro attachments to the belt that keep them from sliding around the waist. It takes more time to use these bags correctly, but when you do, you can open them relatively easily with one hand.

-Rob
Title: Re: Limited Mobility Show
Post by: rat31465 on January 27, 2011, 07:06:36 AM
After my thread from several months ago titled Tactical Considerations for those with Physical Limitations...
http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=13163.new
I really enjoyed last nights show.
I DVR'd it and plan to watch it again so I can pick it apart a little better.
Thanks for all you guys do.

As a side note I would like to report that the injury I suffered to my knee is finally on the mend and I haven't had to depend upon my cane for almost two months now...(Knock on Wood!)
I do still kinda favor my left side when I walk but I am mobile again and now working on getting stronger and loosing some of the 40 plus pounds of excess weight I packed on while being so non-mobile.

Rob, I look forward to what you Bane and Janich have in store for us with the next episode...Keep up the good work.
Title: Re: Limited Mobility Show
Post by: Rampdog on January 27, 2011, 11:21:55 AM
gentlemen, thank you for an excellent show! Like others who've posted I've been waiting for this subject to come up for quite awhile. Self defense resources and training for the disabled are very hard to find so I was excited to see Best Defense take it on. Mr. Pincus and Mr. Janich approached the subject respectfully and authoritatively, passing on excellelnt and much needed advice. I'm a disabled veteran of the war in Iraq confined to a wheelchair and I'm not being paranoid when I say that I'm a target, viewed as easy prey by the scum of society. I've been forced to rethink my personal safety and strategies to defend myself while out and about. I can't retreat, so I'll be forced to fight. How do I fight back if my chair is turned over, an all too real possibility. Professional training is virtually non-existant and prohibitively expensive for those of us with limited income. Does Best Defense plan on doing another show with more advanced techniques? Does anyone know of any resources that are available?
Title: Re: Limited Mobility Show
Post by: PegLeg45 on January 27, 2011, 01:43:58 PM
Great show on a hard topic gang. I say 'hard topic' because like many other SD areas, the limited mobility/disability issue is so wide-ranging that it is hard to cover many of the specifics. What works for me might not work for anyone else.
I think you did a great job in pointing folks in some good directions...giving a 'starting point' so to speak.......One of the most important points that I gleaned was to examine your own situation and individual needs very closely and then proceed to try and implement solutions to problems as you identify them.

Keep up the great work.
Title: Re: Limited Mobility Show
Post by: tankerdad on January 27, 2011, 09:03:19 PM
gentlemen, thank you for an excellent show! Like others who've posted I've been waiting for this subject to come up for quite awhile. Self defense resources and training for the disabled are very hard to find so I was excited to see Best Defense take it on. Mr. Pincus and Mr. Janich approached the subject respectfully and authoritatively, passing on excellelnt and much needed advice. I'm a disabled veteran of the war in Iraq confined to a wheelchair and I'm not being paranoid when I say that I'm a target, viewed as easy prey by the scum of society. I've been forced to rethink my personal safety and strategies to defend myself while out and about. I can't retreat, so I'll be forced to fight. How do I fight back if my chair is turned over, an all too real possibility. Professional training is virtually non-existant and prohibitively expensive for those of us with limited income. Does Best Defense plan on doing another show with more advanced techniques? Does anyone know of any resources that are available?

Rampdog,
I loved your post.  Why? My wife and I were talking about this exact topic while watching the show.  I am an active Army officer with my share of deployments, and my wife and I are both very active in wounded warrior projects (my best friend from college lost his right eye and right arm while deployed).  It was my wife that actually brought up wondering if there was anything for wounded veterans to re-learn defensive techniques when their capabilities change (her actual verbage too, gotta love her!). 

I wll tell you I'll start looking around and asking peers of mine involved in the Warrior Transition unit on post.  If I find anything, I'll send you an email.

Strike Hard,
Tankerdad
Title: Re: Limited Mobility Show
Post by: Rampdog on January 28, 2011, 06:52:28 AM
Rampdog,
I loved your post.  Why? My wife and I were talking about this exact topic while watching the show.  I am an active Army officer with my share of deployments, and my wife and I are both very active in wounded warrior projects (my best friend from college lost his right eye and right arm while deployed).  It was my wife that actually brought up wondering if there was anything for wounded veterans to re-learn defensive techniques when their capabilities change (her actual verbage too, gotta love her!). 

I wll tell you I'll start looking around and asking peers of mine involved in the Warrior Transition unit on post.  If I find anything, I'll send you an email.

Strike Hard,
Tankerdad

Thank you sir, I appreciate any help I can get.
Title: Re: Limited Mobility Show
Post by: rat31465 on January 28, 2011, 07:01:50 AM
RampDog,
Thanks for your Service to this country and good luck in your future endeavors.
Title: Re: Limited Mobility Show
Post by: Michael Janich on January 28, 2011, 07:57:15 AM
Dear Rampdog:

Thank you for your post and the kind words. I am very glad that we "hit the mark" with the information we shared on the show.

As we explained on the show, the tactics for those with physical limitations must be individualized. That makes training hard to find, since most programs are “one size fits all.” However, that doesn’t mean you can’t train effectively. In fact, your personal situation provides an extremely strong training “context,” since you are constantly aware of your environment and your interactions with it.

Start making a list of the types of situations that you are most likely to face. Look at them based on the resources you have available, the severity of the threat, and the nature of the appropriate response. Because your mobility is limited, your response “threshold” will be lower than folks who are fully physically able. With that in mind, start planning personalized carry strategies that provide less-lethal options like OC and possible stun guns as well as lethal-force options. I’m a big fan of airsoft training because it allows you to create a training environment in your own home or garage at very low cost and practice tactics that are difficult to do on many ranges.

Make your training fit your needs. That’s the best way to address your personal concerns. And, as always, feel free to post questions and comments here. We’ll do our best to try to point you in the right direction and give you ideas to keep yourself and your family safer.

Thank you very much for your service to our country. We’re honored to help meet your training needs.

Stay safe,

Mike
Title: Re: Limited Mobility Show
Post by: r_w on January 28, 2011, 09:58:44 AM
http://www.youtube.com/user/RetreatHell?feature=mhum

A few inspirational videos.  More proof that Marines don't understand quit. 
Title: Re: Limited Mobility Show
Post by: tankerdad on January 29, 2011, 09:37:18 AM
Here are some things I was able to find on line so far.  Some of these places have multiple locations:

http://www.defenseability.com/ (http://www.defenseability.com/)

http://www.personaldefensesolutions.net/disabilities.htm (http://www.personaldefensesolutions.net/disabilities.htm)

http://www.mma-tap-out.com/self-defense-for-disabled-individuals/ (http://www.mma-tap-out.com/self-defense-for-disabled-individuals/)

http://fightingarts.com/reading/article.php?id=229  (http://fightingarts.com/reading/article.php?id=229) - Kurumaisu Jutsu:
Wheelchair Techniques Part 1
 
http://fightingarts.com/reading/article.php?id=230 (http://fightingarts.com/reading/article.php?id=230) - Kurumaisu Jutsu:
Wheelchair Techniques Part 2
 
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3197/is_4_47/ai_86052225/ (http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3197/is_4_47/ai_86052225/)
 
http://asjja.com/robby-robinson.htm (http://asjja.com/robby-robinson.htm)
Title: Re: Limited Mobility Show
Post by: PegLeg45 on January 29, 2011, 11:52:23 AM
Thanks greatly for that list of links, Tanker!!
Title: Re: Limited Mobility Show
Post by: rich642z on January 30, 2011, 12:10:26 AM
I am also disabled and an amputee below my right knee from type one diabetes. Along with heart and kidney problems with the disease.   I have a prosthetic leg that is permant but,I still have to use a cane for balance.  MJ and RP,You had a great show and I hope you have more about the disabled in the future shows.   I always carry with me a Ruger Revolver SP101 or a LCR both in .357  magnum for ccw. Thanks again and next time do a show with the disabled subject with revolvers included please.  Rich642z,Omaha,NE.
Title: Re: Limited Mobility Show
Post by: Rampdog on February 07, 2011, 12:24:10 PM
Mr. Janich,
Thank you for your response. I was hoping that there may be a way to lay out a generic program for the different disabilities. One for those using canes, another for those on crutches, and one for the wheelchair bound. I suppose that would be impossible though due to the varied nature of the different disabilities. The information you offered on the show was a good starting point for me and did give me some ideas to pursue and different directions to try. I’d like to share those with you as I move along in the hope that they may be of some value to others.

Tankerdad,
Thank you for the links. A few of those look promising.
Title: Re: Limited Mobility Show
Post by: Michael Janich on February 08, 2011, 07:41:52 AM
Mr. Janich,
Thank you for your response. I was hoping that there may be a way to lay out a generic program for the different disabilities. One for those using canes, another for those on crutches, and one for the wheelchair bound. I suppose that would be impossible though due to the varied nature of the different disabilities. The information you offered on the show was a good starting point for me and did give me some ideas to pursue and different directions to try. I’d like to share those with you as I move along in the hope that they may be of some value to others.

Tankerdad,
Thank you for the links. A few of those look promising.


I will actually be doing a more in-depth treatment of the logic of personal-defense strategies for those with physical limitations for FMG's personal-protection annual. It will be on the newsstands later this year.

Stay safe,

Mike